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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 22 @ 12:09 PM ET
Usually I'd be nervous by such a threat, but you're probably as soft as JVR.
- funmaster18



FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

May 22 @ 12:11 PM ET


JvR looks dangerous to me!!!

- stveshdy


good thinkin, ray
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 22 @ 12:20 PM ET


JvR looks dangerous to me!!!

- stveshdy


I would be overjoyed if JVR was this indestructible. And not seemingly made of brittle materials.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

May 22 @ 12:31 PM ET
I don't think trading for Luke Schenn makes this team any better except for depth. I really think they are gonna try to get Gusty some big minutes next season. I feel they will package JVR and Mezzy to get that #1 dman and resign Carle. I really don't see Parise coming here. I definitely see V resigned and maybe adding another Talbot-esque player.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
good thinkin, ray
- FlyerMike18


Ray, if someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
I like JVR and still think he will develop into a good top-6 winger. I don't want to see him traded per se, but if it would help them get the D help they need, I would support it. This team's biggest issue is it's lack of a #1 Dman. When Pronger went down, it was going to be an uphill battle. Their #2-4 guys were forced to play #1 minutes and while they addressed the position at the deadline, the defense eventually succumbed to injury and burnout. A Dman to reliably play 23-25 minutes per game is the #1 need of this team. Too bad they don't grow on trees.
- BOSS_TWEED

without question...and that doesn't include the idiotic JVR for L schenn scenario
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
without question...and that doesn't include the idiotic JVR for L schenn scenario
- isaiah520


Not a fan of Luke Schenn.

Suter would be the perfect coup. He'd be your #1 defenseman playing big minutes in all situations and he'd automatically make everyone else on the blue line better -- by pushing them all back a slot (ie. Coburn from a #2 to a #3 defensemen, etc.).
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
I feel sincerely sorry for JVR. How unlucky could one kid get?? He was in for a promising season- started off very well....then BOOM.

The icing on the cake is his foot gets infected. Unbelievable. Poor kid

Rest up and show us what you got next year!
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 22 @ 12:51 PM ET
Predictions for headlines once Suter signs somewhere?

A Suitor for Suter? (NHL team name) suits Suter?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
I feel sincerely sorry for JVR. How unlucky could one kid get?? He was in for a promising season- started off very well....then BOOM.

The icing on the cake is his foot gets infected. Unbelievable. Poor kid

Rest up and show us what you got next year!

- Giroux_Is_God


West nile, SARS, and Elephantitis.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
Usually I'd be nervous by such a threat, but you're probably as soft as JVR.
- funmaster18

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 22 @ 12:55 PM ET
Do you mean 'respite', oh master of intelligence?
- tangent_man

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 22 @ 1:00 PM ET
Remember when we were all excited that Shanahan would come in and be better than Collie? Those were some good times.
- Jsaquella


I remember that day. Stellar.

EDIT:
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
Predictions for headlines once Suter signs somewhere?

A Suitor for Suter? (NHL team name) suits Suter?

- funmaster18


Respid Ryan Finds a "Suter" in Dallas
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
Respid Ryan Finds a "Suter" in Dallas
- bradleyc4


BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
Respid Ryan Finds a "Suter" in Dallas
- bradleyc4


Wings suitable for Suter, Nashville hopes to follow suit with Webber.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
Wings suitable for Suter, Nashville hopes to follow suit with Webber.
- BringBack25


These are great
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 22 @ 1:09 PM ET
Holmgrem signs offensive standout from Sask league who goes undrafted, lets go our own draft pick who was an offensive standout at a much higher level?

Do they really think Johnston is good enough to even be on the Phantoms next year?

This is a bit shocking to me. I thought Ranford was making strides in the lackluster areas of his game. Hope were not making a mistake here.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

May 22 @ 1:10 PM ET
Not a fan of Luke Schenn.

Suter would be the perfect coup. He'd be your #1 defenseman playing big minutes in all situations and he'd automatically make everyone else on the blue line better -- by pushing them all back a slot (ie. Coburn from a #2 to a #3 defensemen, etc.).

- bradleyc4

if I knew we were going to get suter, I would pass on carle even though the latter is a fine addition to any blue line. it's just a matter of the mix of players and when we look at the decline/exit of kimmo, suter makes more sense. of course, we don't "know" anything, so I would be looking at yet-developed types like bogosian as well, if not in addition.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 22 @ 1:16 PM ET
Holmgrem signs offensive standout from Sask league who goes undrafted, lets go our own draft pick who was an offensive standout at a much higher level?

Do they really think Johnston is good enough to even be on the Phantoms next year?

This is a bit shocking to me. I thought Ranford was making strides in the lackluster areas of his game. Hope were not making a mistake here.

- mochoson


Bill made it pretty clear as to why Ranford is unlikely to be signed to a deal:

...question marks about his conditioning, skating, size, defensive play and ability to be an effective player at the professional level.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 22 @ 1:19 PM ET
if I knew we were going to get suter, I would pass on carle even though the latter is a fine addition to any blue line. it's just a matter of the mix of players and when we look at the decline/exit of kimmo, suter makes more sense. of course, we don't "know" anything, so I would be looking at yet-developed types like bogosian as well, if not in addition.
- isaiah520


I'd rather spend the cap space on an already developed #1 guy, then to trade a top young player from our roster (JvR, Schenn, etc.) to acquire a guy who might become a #1.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 22 @ 1:20 PM ET
Not a fan of Luke Schenn.

Suter would be the perfect coup. He'd be your #1 defenseman playing big minutes in all situations and he'd automatically make everyone else on the blue line better -- by pushing them all back a slot (ie. Coburn from a #2 to a #3 defensemen, etc.).

- bradleyc4



I personally don't feel that Suter is a true #1 Defenseman. He's really just a very good #2. It would improve the Flyers by adding a D man who can QB the PP and provide a good shot from the point. But that is really the only area where Suter fits the #1 Defenseman description. In my opinion. So what do we have to pay him? That's the question. If we have to pay him like a #1, I'd pass.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 22 @ 1:22 PM ET
Bill made it pretty clear as to why Ranford is unlikely to be signed to a deal:
- bradleyc4


I'm aware. I watch a lot of Blazers games. These were the same questions being asked on draft day.

I'm saying I personally thought he's made improvements in these areas, and at least deserved a look in the AHL. He honestly could just go back into the draft, which is more then likely what happens.

Not saying Bill is wrong, I'm not sure if that is more of his opinion, or the opinion of the organization.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 22 @ 1:25 PM ET
I personally don't feel that Suter is a true #1 Defenseman. He's really just a very good #2. It would improve the Flyers by adding a D man who can QB the PP and provide a good shot from the point. But that is really the only area where Suter fits the #1 Defenseman description. In my opinion. So what do we have to pay him? That's the question. If we have to pay him like a #1, I'd pass.
- MJL


He reminds me of Kimmo Timonen in his prime. Was he a #1 guy? I believe so.

Suter is also a very smart, positionally sound defenseman that's not afraid to throw his body around. He's a true, well-rounded #1 defenseman in my books.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 22 @ 1:26 PM ET
I personally don't feel that Suter is a true #1 Defenseman. He's really just a very good #2. It would improve the Flyers by adding a D man who can QB the PP and provide a good shot from the point. But that is really the only area where Suter fits the #1 Defenseman description. In my opinion. So what do we have to pay him? That's the question. If we have to pay him like a #1, I'd pass.
- MJL


Would you do this. $50M for 8 years full NMC.

Cap hit $6.25?
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