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kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 22 @ 9:43 AM ET
It is now confirmed by the player himself that he tried to play through a meniscus tear in his hip, an oblique tear, a concussion and a groin pull, in addition to a late-season broken foot. It also turned out that, during the Flyers-Devils playoff series, JVR's surgically repaired foot became infected and had to be drained of fluid.
- bmeltzer

Hockey players are warriors.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 22 @ 9:43 AM ET
Don't know if he would accept a 4th line role, but hell yes to Slater.
- MJL


Another yes vote here.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 22 @ 9:44 AM ET
Only chalice he'd ever get in Buffalo.
- tangent_man


Campbell's Cup?
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 22 @ 9:47 AM ET
Campbell's Cup?
- Jsaquella


Not to be confused with the apparatus of the same name that Shanny inherited when he took over as Czar of Discipline.

You know, the one designed to absorb attempted knees to the groin.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 22 @ 9:50 AM ET
Not to be confused with the apparatus of the same name that Shanny inherited when he took over as Czar of Discipline.

You know, the one designed to absorb attempted knees to the groin.

- tangent_man


Remember when we were all excited that Shanahan would come in and be better than Collie? Those were some good times.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 22 @ 9:51 AM ET
On the day after Parise lit up the Rangers, maybe we can have an anti-intelligence respid.

Talbot and Coots should easily be 2/3 of our 3rd line.

Everyone else does this, now it's my turn

Harts Briere Parise
JVR Giroux Schenn
Talbot Coots Simmonds
Rinaldo Read Wellwood

Seeing if people read this whole thing - flip Briere and Giroux.

- Daman

So subtract Voracek and Jagr, add Parise?

Id would be more inclined to trade JvR for Luke Schenn+... then add Parise...

I dont know how to copy the capgeek thing so Ill type it manually.

With the cap expected at $69mil and a Bonus Cushion (i hope this is put into the next cba)

Hartnell (4.2)- Giroux (3.75)- Parise (6.5)
Simmonds (1.75)- Briere (6.5)- Read (900k)
Schenn (3.1*)- Coots (1.375)- Talbot(1.75)
Rinaldo (544k)- Campbell (1.25)- Wellwood (580k)
Sestito (605k)

Timonen (6.3)-Carle (4.5?)
Coburn (4.5)- Grossmann (3.5)
Meszy (4)- Schenn (3.6)
Pronger (4.92**)- Lilja (737k)

Bryz (5.6)-Bob (1.75)

Salary Cap $69,000,000
Salary Cap Payroll $72,173,373
Bonuses $3,555,000
Salary Cap Space 381,627

* Schenn is adjusted thanks to bonus cushion, however, will never make his bonus.
** Will be put on LTIR at start of season which would open up nearly 5 mil

!!I DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT 10% OFF-SEASON SPENDING THING WORKS!!
!!JUST FOR FUN!!
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 22 @ 9:52 AM ET
Remember when we were all excited that Shanahan would come in and be better than Collie? Those were some good times.
- Jsaquella


He did well for a week. Still a step up, considering.
BOSS_TWEED
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: S. Jersey
Joined: 11.07.2006

May 22 @ 9:54 AM ET
Remember when we were all excited that Shanahan would come in and be better than Collie? Those were some good times.
- Jsaquella


Yep! Some of the rulings have been downright confusing. Giroux gets a game for a hit 1/10th as severe as Neal's hit on Couturier. Torres (who, granted, is an idiot with a track record) gets 25 games for the same hit. The Weber indident, the Chris Neil incident, etc, etc. I get that it's a tough job and that they really seem to have established standards. It's in applying said standards that they've fallen way short.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 22 @ 9:55 AM ET
Great stuff on Talbot. In my opinion he would make great captain material if Giroux were not quite ready/willing to take on that role.

Talbot is a glue guy and.............sorry, I just got distracted by the "Date Hot Asian Girls" ad on the right side of the screen.....

What was I saying?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 22 @ 10:00 AM ET


!!I DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT 10% OFF-SEASON SPENDING THING WORKS!!
!!JUST FOR FUN!!

- jak521


For a Quick & dirty explanation: every one way contract counts against the cap in the summer. So, Pronger, Matt Walker, etc count.

So, with a $69mm cap, the Flyers can actually have $75.9mm on the cap in the summer, which has to be under $69mm when the season starts. Under that $75.9mm, teams also have to count any qualifying offers made to RFA's. So, if they offer Jake a standard 10% QO, they have to count his deal against that $76.9mm, too.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 22 @ 10:01 AM ET
I remember now....if anyone questions JVR's drive or toughness ever again in here, I will round up a posse, drive to your house, and take you to task for your ignorance.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 22 @ 10:02 AM ET
I remember now....if anyone questions JVR's drive or toughness ever again in here, I will round up a posse, drive your house, and take you to task for your ignorance.
- MBFlyerfan


He infected his own foot, so he wouldn't look as good to teams trying to trade for him.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 22 @ 10:02 AM ET
For a Quick & dirty explanation: every one way contract counts against the cap in the summer. So, Pronger, Matt Walker, etc count.

So, with a $69mm cap, the Flyers can actually have $75.9mm on the cap in the summer, which has to be under $69mm when the season starts. Under that $75.9mm, teams also have to count any qualifying offers made to RFA's. So, if they offer Jake a standard 10% QO, they have to count his deal against that $76.9mm, too.

- Jsaquella

ok... so in essence it would still work (after doing quick math).

That would be a pretty sexy lineup
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 22 @ 10:02 AM ET
He infected his own foot, so he wouldn't look as good to teams trying to trade for him.
- Jsaquella

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 22 @ 10:04 AM ET
He infected his own foot, so he wouldn't look as good to teams trying to trade for him.
- Jsaquella


He also took an icepick to his own hip and abdominal wall, but that is beside the point. It takes a pretty tough dude to skewer yourself like that to avoid playing so you don't get traded.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 22 @ 10:05 AM ET
He also took an icepick to his own hip and abdominal wall, but that is beside the point. It takes a pretty tough dude to skewer yourself like that to avoid playing so you don't get traded.
- MBFlyerfan


Emo kids do worse just because they are bored.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 22 @ 10:05 AM ET
He infected his own foot, so he wouldn't look as good to teams trying to trade for him.
- Jsaquella


Seriously, how could this guy even walk let alone skate in an NHL game.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 22 @ 10:06 AM ET
ok... so in essence it would still work (after doing quick math).

That would be a pretty sexy lineup

- jak521


Yeah, I'd like to keep Jake...also, if there is a bonus cushion, they'll have more room during the season.
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

May 22 @ 10:08 AM ET
Guessing he'll stay with the Rags, but I like Brandon Prust...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 22 @ 10:08 AM ET
Seriously, how could this guy even walk let alone skate in an NHL game.

- MBFlyerfan


Well...he's a hockey player.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 22 @ 10:10 AM ET
So subtract Voracek and Jagr, add Parise?

Id would be more inclined to trade JvR for Luke Schenn+... then add Parise...

I dont know how to copy the capgeek thing so Ill type it manually.

With the cap expected at $69mil and a Bonus Cushion (i hope this is put into the next cba)

Hartnell (4.2)- Giroux (3.75)- Parise (6.5)
Simmonds (1.75)- Briere (6.5)- Read (900k)
Schenn (3.1*)- Coots (1.375)- Talbot(1.75)
Rinaldo (544k)- Campbell (1.25)- Wellwood (580k)
Sestito (605k)

Timonen (6.3)-Carle (4.5?)
Coburn (4.5)- Grossmann (3.5)
Meszy (4)- Schenn (3.6)
Pronger (4.92**)- Lilja (737k)

Bryz (5.6)-Bob (1.75)

Salary Cap $69,000,000
Salary Cap Payroll $72,173,373
Bonuses $3,555,000
Salary Cap Space 381,627

* Schenn is adjusted thanks to bonus cushion, however, will never make his bonus.
** Will be put on LTIR at start of season which would open up nearly 5 mil

!!I DO NOT KNOW HOW THAT 10% OFF-SEASON SPENDING THING WORKS!!
!!JUST FOR FUN!!

- jak521


I'm for keeping JVR but if you add Schenn and Parise that is a big win. Realistic, I don't know, but would be nice.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 22 @ 10:11 AM ET
Well...he's a hockey player.
- Jsaquella



If he even stays moderately healthy next season it will be like adding a big time free agent. That is my prediction.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 22 @ 10:13 AM ET
Emo kids do worse just because they are bored.
- Jsaquella

OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 22 @ 10:14 AM ET
Guessing he'll stay with the Rags, but I like Brandon Prust...
- aightwebang17


oh
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

May 22 @ 10:15 AM ET
oh
- OrangeBlack27

Wife likes him too, but I don't think it's for hockey reasons...
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