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Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 3:42 PM ET
Then CapGeek is wrong.
- blackhawk24


Look at the salary...Not the the cap hit... there is a tab at top...

Hossa has been making more in salary than his cap hit after the first season...

His salary in 16-17 is only $4 mill and then drops to $1 mill.
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mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

May 23 @ 3:42 PM ET
Sharp to Boston for Lucic
- nickmo2699


Thats interesting , Id be happy with that. Not sure about the cap #s or whatnot.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

May 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
Thats interesting , Id be happy with that. Not sure about the cap #s or whatnot.
- mrpaulish


Can you Imagine that Animal Playing with 19-88
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

May 23 @ 3:45 PM ET
Sharp for Lucic would work according to capgeek.com

http://capgeek.com/trade_...&team-5-players%5B%5D=220
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

May 23 @ 3:46 PM ET
Can you Imagine that Animal Playing with 19-88
- nickmo2699


Yes, I think about it often
Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

May 23 @ 3:47 PM ET
You might call him a total waste of space, but the Hawks best option there might be Carcillo. He is not without hockey sense and skill and he provides protection on that line no one else on the team can. Bollig can't play there. Shaw is tough but not as tough as Carcillo.

The Hawks might need a policeman for Toews for the rest of his career, the tougher the better. Right now, unless they got a Lucic type, that's Carcillo.

- John Jaeckel


Hey JJ,
If we see Carcillo on the top 2 lines next season, do you think Bollig will 100% be re-singned and end up on the 4th? We need that kid back next year, people who can lay punishing hits and grit are definitley in short supply on this team. Plus he's cheap.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

May 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Sharp for Lucic would work according to capgeek.com

http://capgeek.com/trade_...&team-5-players%5B%5D=220

- mrpaulish


And we still have 8.5 left. While were at it ship Hammer to Boston for McQuaid
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

May 23 @ 3:48 PM ET
Look at the salary...Not the the cap hit... there is a tab at top...

Hossa has been making more in salary than his cap hit after the first season...

His salary in 16-17 is only $4 mill and then drops to $1 mill.

- Al

So what does the buyout cap hit column mean on the far right?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 23 @ 3:50 PM ET
Blog on Suter coming at 4 Central
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 23 @ 3:52 PM ET
Hey JJ,
If we see Carcillo on the top 2 lines next season, do you think Bollig will 100% be re-singned and end up on the 4th? We need that kid back next year, people who can lay punishing hits and grit are definitley in short supply on this team. Plus he's cheap.

- Murph76


I have a feeling he'll be back. if not, it will be because of roster numbers and he will most likely be re-signed to a two-way deal regardless. if John Scott had a place on this team for nearly two seasons, Bollig should.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
So what does the buyout cap hit column mean on the far right?
- blackhawk24


Not sure what you are referring to...Hossa has a $62.8 mill contract but only $4 mill will be owed to him in the last four years...

That is the amount to use to calculate what a buyout would cost in the last four seasons.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

May 23 @ 3:54 PM ET
Blog on Suter coming at 4 Central
- John Jaeckel

Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 3:56 PM ET
I have a feeling he'll be back. if not, it will be because of roster numbers and he will most likely be re-signed to a two-way deal regardless. if John Scott had a place on this team for nearly two seasons, Bollig should.
- John Jaeckel


I think Bollig doesn't have many options although his agent will be pushing for a two-way deal...Not very likely is my guess too.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
I think Bollig doesn't have many options although his agent will be pushing for a two-way deal...Not very likely is my guess too.
- Al


You meant one-way right?
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 4:02 PM ET
You meant one-way right?
- John Jaeckel


Bollig and agent will want a two way...But I agree they won't get one.

I meant a one way....Thx John
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

May 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
Not sure what you are referring to...Hossa has a $62.8 mill contract but only $4 mill will be owed to him in the last four years...

That is the amount to use to calculate what a buyout would cost in the last four seasons.

- Al

Go run a buyout on Hossa please. Put in 2017 and you'll see what I mean.

The cut-&-paste version is below:

Marian Hossa buyout from CapGeek.com

2017-18: $4,608,333
2018-19: $4,608,333
2019-20: $4,608,333
2020-21: $4,608,333
2021-22: $333,333
2022-23: $333,333
2023-24: $333,333
2024-25: $333,333


shruew
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.08.2008

May 23 @ 4:12 PM ET
Bollig and agent will want a two way...But I agree they won't get one.
- Al


Why would he want a two way? To avoid waivers if his AHL contract is whatever that min is?
Murph76
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 12.07.2011

May 23 @ 4:14 PM ET
Bollig and agent will want a two way...But I agree they won't get one.
- Al

Forgive my ignorance, but would that mean he gets dealt and we get somone back for him?
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 4:14 PM ET
Go run a buyout on Hossa please. Put in 2017 and you'll see what I mean.

The cut-&-paste version is below:

Marian Hossa buyout from CapGeek.com

2017-18: $4,608,333
2018-19: $4,608,333
2019-20: $4,608,333
2020-21: $4,608,333
2021-22: $333,333
2022-23: $333,333
2023-24: $333,333
2024-25: $333,333

- blackhawk24


That isn't correct...

Hossa will only be paid $4 mill in 2016-2017 and then $1 mill for the next four seasons.

So in his last 5 seasons he will earn only $8 million....If he plays.

So his buyout number would be less...

Retiring is different....A reason to structure a players contract and spread the term out so long is for buyout purposes.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 4:17 PM ET
Forgive my ignorance, but would that mean he gets dealt and we get somone back for him?
- Murph76


No a one way contract means the players gets his full salary even though he is sent to the minors...

Last year Bollig earned $57,500 in Rockford and $545,000 in Chgo because he had a two way contract..
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

May 23 @ 4:17 PM ET
Why would he want a two way? To avoid waivers if his AHL contract is whatever that min is?
- shruew


Does Bollig have arbitration rights? Better yet, does he have enough service time to recieve arbitration rights? Does service time even matter?

Being a RFA coming of his entry level, I don't think he has many options, especially if the organization extends a qualifying offer to Bollig.

I bet he ends up with a two-way deal, with a slight raise in both his NHL and AHL salaries.
nathanjf
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec, QC
Joined: 11.25.2010

May 23 @ 4:18 PM ET
Chipping in late with the WCF reaction, but check out the replay of Penner's game winner again and watch Smith take a wicked slash at Richards after the puck is in the net. Series over, and takes a vicious swing at a premier player. Classless.
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 4:18 PM ET
Why would he want a two way? To avoid waivers if his AHL contract is whatever that min is?
- shruew


I corrected... was backwards he would want a one way....Thx
Al
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: , IL
Joined: 08.11.2006

May 23 @ 4:18 PM ET
Does Bollig have arbitration rights? Better yet, does he have enough service time to recieve arbitration rights? Does service time even matter?

Being a RFA coming of his entry level, I don't think he has many options, especially if the organization extends a qualifying offer to Bollig.

I bet he ends up with a two-way deal, with a slight raise in both his NHL and AHL salaries.

- EKolb13


I don't think he is arb eligible.
shruew
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 01.08.2008

May 23 @ 4:19 PM ET
I think the confusion is what Hossa gets paid versus what the Salary Cap hit is.

This is the Cap Hit - not what Hossa gets paid.
2017-18: $4,608,333
2018-19: $4,608,333
2019-20: $4,608,333
2020-21: $4,608,333
2021-22: $333,333
2022-23: $333,333
2023-24: $333,333
2024-25: $333,333
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