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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
What will we be trading for ?
- VANTEL


Good question.

We need a number 1 or 2 defenseman. I think that's obvious. But Gillis doesn't do obvious. He's proven to go "off the board". I wouldn't be surprised if he goes for top six forward again. Another big name, big contract. He's got to make that push. He's not going to improve this team at the trade deadline. Teams aren't willing to deal assets to top clubs unless you pay big. The draft seems like to only time Gillis has an opportunity to wheel and deal.

If your team has a good scouting staff, they can compensate for no 1st round picks. 1st, 2nd, and 3rd picks in a draft are untouchable imo, every other pick after the first three are tradable. Have a look at my last post. Not many gems in the 1st round for our Nucks.
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
What will we be trading for ?
- VANTEL

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numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

May 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
I think Girgensons will be gone sooner then you have him (ahead of wilson for sure). And that being the case I hope Calgary takes colberg.

Baert/Backland/Colberg will be a good young line (hopefully we trade for another center in the meantime).

Wilson might be something that would work with vancouver. Essentially another Kassian though (but Kassian has better hands).

Could see Canucks trading schneider for a higher draft pick and getting a solid D prospect, to build around with Tanev. But realistically Canucks need some play now players since its their window for the cup now.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

May 21 @ 4:20 PM ET
no one thinks Matteau might sneak on that list? He could be a good 3rd line center that canucks need behind sedin/kesler in a yr or 2
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 4:33 PM ET
I would love Sissons, Gaunce or Wilson. I like how Gillis sticks with the best player available though. It's a shame Tinordi didn't fall to us 2 years ago, Gillis would have never made the Ballard trade and we'd have a potentially great shutdown d-man in our system.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:41 PM ET
I think Girgensons will be gone sooner then you have him (ahead of wilson for sure). And that being the case I hope Calgary takes colberg.

Baert/Backland/Colberg will be a good young line (hopefully we trade for another center in the meantime).

Wilson might be something that would work with vancouver. Essentially another Kassian though (but Kassian has better hands).

Could see Canucks trading schneider for a higher draft pick and getting a solid D prospect, to build around with Tanev. But realistically Canucks need some play now players since its their window for the cup now.

- numbear

Are the Flames going to try to re-sign Jokinen?

I would not mind if he signed for 2 years here for 6 mil or less. 2.5 per would be great.
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

May 21 @ 4:43 PM ET
Ideally, assuming of course he falls and we take him, Galchenyuk could be the future #2 and Strome could slide over to wing. I like Dumba's game, makes me think Subban. I just want to take the best player available. If Murray is gone and Gally or Grigorenko are available, great news for the Isles.
- eichiefs9


If i were snow I would want a defenseman, Niederreiter, Okposo, strome will be around a while you already have a franchise center in Tavares and a potential second line guys in Bailey or Brock Nelson. Trouba would be a strong pick for them if Murry is not available Dumba is overrated IMO
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

May 21 @ 4:45 PM ET
If i were snow I would want a defenseman, Niederreiter, Okposo, strome will be around a while you already have a franchise center in Tavares and a potential second line guys in Bailey or Brock Nelson. Trouba would be a strong pick for them if Murry is not available Dumba is overrated IMO
- ky678468



And speaking of Trouba there isn't a chance in god's green earth the wild pass on him if he is available they are a magnet for Minnesota borns, its good they don't have to resort to drafting the high school kids this year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:49 PM ET
And speaking of Trouba there isn't a chance in god's green earth the wild pass on him if he is available they are a magnet for Minnesota borns, its good they don't have to resort to drafting the high school kids this year
- ky678468


I think the Wild will contend very nice this year with Suter and Parise.
Boosinicka
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.25.2010

May 21 @ 4:50 PM ET
Do you think Burke keeps the pick? If he trades it away to get Nash (for example) do leaf fans revolt?
- bloatedmosquito


I think the pick becomes in play if Galchenyuk is gone. Maybe Grigorenko too. I don't mind going after Nash for the right price (obviously) however.
ky678468
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Halifax , NS
Joined: 09.20.2011

May 21 @ 4:54 PM ET
I think the Wild will contend very nice this year with Suter and Parise.
- VANTEL


Both drafted in 2003, before the wild got to pick, not sure either will be available after the way the playoffs have gone.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:55 PM ET
I think the pick becomes in play if Galchenyuk is gone. Maybe Grigorenko too. I don't mind going after Nash for the right price (obviously) however.
- Boosinicka


Kessel for Nash
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
Both drafted in 2003, before the wild got to pick, not sure either will be available after the way the playoffs have gone.
- ky678468

Parise wants to go home
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 21 @ 5:55 PM ET
I would love Sissons, Gaunce or Wilson. I like how Gillis sticks with the best player available though. It's a shame Tinordi didn't fall to us 2 years ago, Gillis would have never made the Ballard trade and we'd have a potentially great shutdown d-man in our system.
- Nucker101


Gillis made the Ballard trade before Tinordi was taken, so he would have done it anyway.

If Tinordi was still available, Florida was supposed to get the Canucks' 1st rounder in the following draft, so the Canucks could have taken Tinordi, instead of the one that year which Florida used to select Howden.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:04 PM ET
Gillis made the Ballard trade before Tinordi was taken, so he would have done it anyway.

If Tinordi was still available, Florida was supposed to get the Canucks' 1st rounder in the following draft, so the Canucks could have taken Tinordi, instead of the one that year which Florida used to select Howden.

- Fosco



I said it last year and I will repeat this year ,Canucks will not win nothing if Ballard Raymond Manny or Weise are in our lineup.
ssullivan28
San Jose Sharks
Location: Antioch, CA
Joined: 10.01.2006

May 21 @ 6:07 PM ET
Curious why you think the Sharks need to rebuild their defense first (rather than their forwards)?

I'd say....well, they really just need the best player available for their first pick (they could use some quality prospects at every position). But they *seem* to have a few pretty good defensive prospects (Wrenn, Doughty, Petrecki...? Granted all have some question marks); but they seem to be really (REALLY) week in forward prospects (especially after Wilson traded Coyle last year....ugh, still turns my stomach.)

So I'm really curious how you see the Sharks prospect system.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 21 @ 6:09 PM ET
I said it last year and I will repeat this year ,Canucks will not win nothing if Ballard Raymond Manny or Weise are in our lineup.
- VANTEL


At this point they're all dead weight. Malhotra would be good at less $$. Ballard would have had a different fate in Van if he had been used properly, and he could still likely be an effective defender, but AV doesn't trust him, and he's too expensive for a bottom pairing.

If they're keeping Edler, they should take whatever someone will offer for Ballard and sign someone cheaper.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:18 PM ET
At this point they're all dead weight. Malhotra would be good at less $$. Ballard would have had a different fate in Van if he had been used properly, and he could still likely be an effective defender, but AV doesn't trust him, and he's too expensive for a bottom pairing.

If they're keeping Edler, they should take whatever someone will offer for Ballard and sign someone cheaper.

- Fosco


I am still angry that they are bringing back AV .

If Gillis brings back any one of those four there will be rallies
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:20 PM ET
Gillis made the Ballard trade before Tinordi was taken, so he would have done it anyway.

If Tinordi was still available, Florida was supposed to get the Canucks' 1st rounder in the following draft, so the Canucks could have taken Tinordi, instead of the one that year which Florida used to select Howden.

- Fosco


Of course, completely forgot the actual details of that deal. For those questioning Gillis'/our scout's judgement, he's shown interest in some solid players who have really improved recently(Tinordi, Backes, etc.). Just imagine if the Blues didn't match that offer sheet.
GSDIV
Boston Bruins
Location: glove_was_stuck: Long ways to go. Still have to beat the Montreal Vaneks, MA
Joined: 06.24.2011

May 21 @ 6:21 PM ET
Ian Esplen: My Mock Draft- May 21
My Mock Draft- May 21

- IanEsplen


I think your top 5 is right on the money.
Brandon_Lee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canada, BC
Joined: 11.26.2007

May 21 @ 6:30 PM ET
At this point they're all dead weight. Malhotra would be good at less $$. Ballard would have had a different fate in Van if he had been used properly, and he could still likely be an effective defender, but AV doesn't trust him, and he's too expensive for a bottom pairing.

If they're keeping Edler, they should take whatever someone will offer for Ballard and sign someone cheaper.

- Fosco


I hope they are keeping Edler. Unless you are going to make a ridiculous contract offer to Suter, Edler is still the Canucks best chance of having a true #1 on the blue line.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 21 @ 6:33 PM ET
I hope they are keeping Edler. Unless you are going to make a ridiculous contract offer to Suter, Edler is still the Canucks best chance of having a true #1 on the blue line.
- Brandon_Lee


Agreed. And IMO Suter or Weber will not be as effective when they're finally split up unless they go to a team that already has a number one type d-man that they can play with.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:37 PM ET
Agreed. And IMO Suter or Weber will not be as effective when they're finally split up unless they go to a team that already has a number one type d-man that they can play with.
- Nucker101


I am not to sure Weber Hamhuis couldn't make a go of it

Next years 2013-2014 line up is

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Nash Galchenyuk Parenteau
Jensen Ott Hansen
Winchester Lapierre Kassian

Schroeder

Edler Weber
Hamhuis Shultz
Garrison Bieksa

Allen

Luongo
Lack
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 21 @ 6:43 PM ET
I hope they are keeping Edler. Unless you are going to make a ridiculous contract offer to Suter, Edler is still the Canucks best chance of having a true #1 on the blue line.
- Brandon_Lee


Me too. You'll be hard pressed to find a bigger Edler supporter on this board than myself. I think I was starting to piss people off.

I can't think of too many D in the league I would rather have. He had a bit of a rough season, but there aren't too many Canucks you can't say that about.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 21 @ 6:46 PM ET
Me too. You'll be hard pressed to find a bigger Edler supporter on this board than myself. I think I was starting to piss people off.

I can't think of too many D in the league I would rather have. He had a bit of a rough season, but there aren't too many Canucks you can't say that about.

- Fosco



It's all good.
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