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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 3:55 PM ET
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 3:57 PM ET
Do you think we could pay him in coupons?
- NickTheKid87

NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:59 PM ET
So Jeremy Walsh's $17.9 million cap hit is legit: http://capgeek.com/faq/is...elsh-s-cap-hit-a-typo.php

You learn something new everyday.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
The other possibility, of course, is that they got a second opinion from a doctor who said the knee is treatable with rest/rehab rather than surgery.

But then why not just say that?

- bmeltzer

Hmm....I smell conspiracies!


coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 21 @ 4:31 PM ET
He was one of the guys I was interested in when Pronger got hurt. Cap hit wasn't ideal, wonder if he's expecting a raise.
- Jsaquella

As did I. Allen can eat up big minutes if needed and is a large man. Can move the puck just fine but nothing flashy. What do you think he will get in the UFA market?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 4:33 PM ET
As did I. Allen can eat up big minutes if needed and is a large man. Can move the puck just fine but nothing flashy. What do you think he will get in the UFA market?
- coffee junkie


I'd guess around $3-$3.5mm

Grossmann got that, I'd expect Allen to get in that neighborhood, too. Should have qualified the original post with "significant" raise.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
I'd guess around $3-$3.5mm

Grossmann got that, I'd expect Allen to get in that neighborhood, too. Should have qualified the original post with "significant" raise.

- Jsaquella

I could see him going for more just cause he is a UFA in a tight market this year. That said, if it was possible to get him for 3-3.5 and we could swing it I would seriously consider. I think the kid can still grow into his game and wouldn't be relied upon to the "the man" here (he was a 2-4 pairing in Carolina right?).
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
Not sure what you're getting at, but I think you are unclear on your opinion, and that is why people disagree with it and you should as well. Stated differently, you should disagree with your opinion.

I am not a NOBODY in the hockey world - I've been to at least 3 games over the past decade. I even saw Chris T. and Danny B at Wegmans. That is a resume you can have fun with your hand over.

- Daman

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 4:40 PM ET
I could see him going for more just cause he is a UFA in a tight market this year. That said, if it was possible to get him for 3-3.5 and we could swing it I would seriously consider. I think the kid can still grow into his game and wouldn't be relied upon to the "the man" here (he was a 2-4 pairing in Carolina right?).
- coffee junkie


I think that the Flyers still need a puck moving guy more, although Allen is a solid stay at home guy
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
I think that the Flyers still need a puck moving guy more, although Allen is a solid stay at home guy
- Jsaquella

What about Carle? Sorry.... I hear you. GTG. Peace.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
but....that's just his OPINION!!!!!!!!1!!

- BringBack25


but with any opinion there needs to be factual information behind it. Add some spreadsheets, web references and anything else to make sure it stands up on the buzz.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

May 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
how about poaching Carlson from the Caps?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 5:06 PM ET
Credit Mayor Of Angry Town for that insight.
- Jsaquella


bout time he chimed in
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
how about poaching Carlson from the Caps?
- KGBflyers10


Good luck.

He's a fantastic dman, but a turnover machine. He's only going to get better, but those who get on Carles case would probably have a (frank)ing coronary if we got Carlson.

Your basically talking Brayden Schenn if you want Carlson.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
bout time he chimed in
- ob18


He's omnipotent.

I'm going to miss 1st period or so of that game tonight, but I'm gonna DVR it.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 21 @ 5:19 PM ET
I still would be interested in bringing back Kubina, health permitted, at a reasonable price. Nothing longer then 2 years, 1 year preferred.

Prioritys 1 and 2 are re-upping Jake and Carle IMO. Nothing else until that gets done.

Still want Jagr to come back, but depending on what the other two get, we may have to get creative to do so. He's going to have to take less then what he took this year, but I think he understands that.

If no Kubina, I'd be interested in a guy like Coliacavo. Him, Gus, and Lilja gives us enough depth on the bottom pairing to deal with injuries. Anything more then that goes to Kessel and Manning IMO.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 5:20 PM ET
Good luck.

He's a fantastic dman, but a turnover machine. He's only going to get better, but those who get on Carles case would probably have a (frank)ing coronary if we got Carlson.

Your basically talking Brayden Schenn if you want Carlson.

- mochoson


There was a Caps beat guy who said last week that they think Carlson's a future Norris contender. He'd be expensive in a trade.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
There was a Caps beat guy who said last week that they think Carlson's a future Norris contender. He'd be expensive in a trade.
- Jsaquella


I wouldn't argue that, but I'd expect nothing less from a beat writer for the Caps. Of course they think so.

He certainly would be expensive. Caps have no reason to move him or Alzner. They have solidified their D for the forseeable future through good drafting. No need to create holes in your line-up that aren't easily filled.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 5:26 PM ET
He's omnipotent.

I'm going to miss 1st period or so of that game tonight, but I'm gonna DVR it.

- Jsaquella


Okay, just curious to see how well he does again as I am for another opinion
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 7:16 PM ET
Okay, just curious to see how well he does again as I am for another opinion
- ob18


I can't find the game on TV
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 7:17 PM ET
I can't find the game on TV
- Jsaquella


This is the only spot I can find it. That annoyed me too.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...uniors/2012_memorial_cup/
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 7:22 PM ET
This is the only spot I can find it. That annoyed me too.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...uniors/2012_memorial_cup/

- ob18


Yep, I found it, been watching for about 5 mins or so.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 7:23 PM ET
Yep, I found it, been watching for about 5 mins or so.
- Jsaquella


Phillips the Wild 1st round pick with what looked like a bad angle goal.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 7:28 PM ET
Phillips the Wild 1st round pick with what looked like a bad angle goal.
- ob18


It was freezing really bad, couldn't watch it...saw one of his shifts after the goal, but too bad to really see much. Looks like he has decent wheels.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 21 @ 7:31 PM ET
It was freezing really bad, couldn't watch it...saw one of his shifts after the goal, but too bad to really see much. Looks like he has decent wheels.
- Jsaquella


Could be a decent 2 way center, may not be a huge point producer.
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