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BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 21 @ 3:06 PM ET
In the off-season, yes. And this is just a pretty common knee injury, that was already public knowledge. So I do think some clarification is in order -- if the knee was, in fact, the only problem -- from how things went from "needs knee surgery and is taking injections to get through playoffs" to "knee is fine" within 10 days.
- bmeltzer


He added another N to his name. Roughly equivalent to finding a health power up in a video game.

Grossmannn
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 21 @ 3:11 PM ET
He added another N to his name. Roughly equivalent to finding a health power up in a video game.

Grossmannn

- BringBack25



LOL


BB25 on a roll today.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

May 21 @ 3:16 PM ET
LOL


BB25 on a roll today.

- MBFlyerfan


I too have added another N to my name (silly site wouldn't let me change the screen name though). I am now BrinngBack25. More powerful than ever!
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 21 @ 3:19 PM ET
Not sure why we are worried about fringe players like Carle and Harts.

I would make a huge run at Rick Nash. If that doesn't work, then Zach Parise.

If we could sign either of these superstars, I would be willing to sign Carle at 1.5m - 2m and squeeze him under the cap.

ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 21 @ 3:19 PM ET
Now that it's clear Grossmann's knee is OK, the question remains what the hell happened between Holmgren and then Grossmann reportedly telling Johan Garpenlöv that impending knee surgery and injections during the playoffs was the reason why NG couldn't play at Worlds and the knee being fine now.

Garpenlöv has repeated his version several times since May 9 and I 100% believe that it was he was told exactly that by the Flyers.

No one is about to own up to the other possibility -- that Grossmann still had concussion symptoms during the NJ series and took the risk to play in the playoffs, with the Flyers' knowledge. They then told Garpenlöv it was the knee as a cover reason, since Grossmann did suffer a knee injury late in the regular season and wore a second knee brace in playoffs.

- bmeltzer



The Philly media needs to get on this immediately!!

They need to write the same article Sheridan, wrote today, about the Phillies but just insert Flyers!

This is an outrage!

Damn it! When are these Organizations going to stop lying to the people who cover the team!







*the above is complete and total sarcasm*


By the way, the first comment on that Sheridan piece was by someone well known on these boards.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:23 PM ET
The Philly media needs to get on this immediately!!

They need to write the same article Sheridan, wrote today, about the Phillies but just insert Flyers!

This is an outrage!

Damn it! When are these Organizations going to stop lying to the people who cover the team!







*the above is complete and total sarcasm*


By the way, the first comment on that Sheridan piece was by someone well known on these boards.

- ggunky


Saw it!!!
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

May 21 @ 3:24 PM ET
Not sure why we are worried about fringe players like Carle and Harts.

I would make a huge run at Rick Nash. If that doesn't work, then Zach Parise.

If we could sign either of these superstars, I would be willing to sign Carle at 1.5m - 2m and squeeze him under the cap.

- Daman





This is a joke, right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 3:26 PM ET
Not sure why we are worried about fringe players like Carle and Harts.

I would make a huge run at Rick Nash. If that doesn't work, then Zach Parise.

If we could sign either of these superstars, I would be willing to sign Carle at 1.5m - 2m and squeeze him under the cap.

- Daman


Let me guess, more sarcasm?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:30 PM ET
Can't sign too many guys to long term deals. When Giroux's contract expires in a few years he'll be getting a huge raise.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
Can't sign too many guys to long term deals. When Giroux's contract expires in a few years he'll be getting a huge raise.
- NickTheKid87

i wouldnt go above $5 million
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 21 @ 3:41 PM ET
Can't sign too many guys to long term deals. When Giroux's contract expires in a few years he'll be getting a huge raise.
- NickTheKid87

He's #1 priority when the time comes.
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:42 PM ET
He's #1 priority when the time comes.
- stveshdy


He'll get no less than $7.5 mill IMO
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:43 PM ET
i wouldnt go above $5 million
- Crimsoninja


Length?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 21 @ 3:43 PM ET
He'll get no less than $7.5 mill IMO
- NickTheKid87

I don't know they may sign him to a ridiculous amount of years to lower the cap hit
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 3:44 PM ET
Length?
- NickTheKid87

i'll have to think about it
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 21 @ 3:44 PM ET
i wouldnt go above $5 million
- Crimsoninja


There has to be a line drawn in the sand.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 3:46 PM ET
There has to be a line drawn in the sand.

- MJL

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 3:48 PM ET
i wouldnt go above $5 million
- Crimsoninja

Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 21 @ 3:49 PM ET
Can't sign too many guys to long term deals. When Giroux's contract expires in a few years he'll be getting a huge raise.
- NickTheKid87


I would sign everyone to 2 - 3 year deals.

Why?

Nick "the Kid" said so.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
I would sign everyone to 2 - 3 year deals.

Why?

Nick "the Kid" said so.

- Daman

i admire your passive aggressiveness sir
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
I would sign everyone to 2 - 3 year deals.

Why?

Nick "the Kid" said so.

- Daman


I was thinking game-to-game contracts based on performance. Or maybe a pick-up style selection before every game. All are invited to tryout.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 21 @ 3:50 PM ET
He'll get no less than $7.5 mill IMO
- NickTheKid87


Simmonds will deliver another knee drop to Giroux's head, turning the best player in the world into another Cindy Crosby. No way Claude Crosby gets 7.5m under these circumstances.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
2.9M last year you would expect him to get a raise. I was under capgeek not sure why Carolina has Jeremy Welsh for 17.9M cap hit?

Did I miss something?

- stveshdy


Welsh is a BMF
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:52 PM ET
Simmonds will deliver another knee drop to Giroux's head, turning the best player in the world into another Cindy Crosby. No way Claude Crosby gets 7.5m under these circumstances.
- Daman


Do you think we could pay him in coupons?
NickTheKid87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 11.19.2010

May 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
Welsh is a BMF
- Jsaquella


Talk about getting to the cap floor.
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