So we're not even signing our own RFA's (Frattin, Scrivens, Holzer)?
- The Shrike

Ok, you might get that done too i guess.

Crosby could score 100 points with actual penguins on his line.
- robin_steele264

kessel can score like 85 with a team 26th in the league, can score 38 goals on a line with tyler bozak.
put crosby with kessel and he'll break gretzkys goals in a season record

Every team will be in on this player... If the Gardiner comment holds true, then maybe the Leafs are out in front. The Leafs also being as putrid as they have last season have spots available on D.
- Mr_Smokey

Mckenzie says the Oilers!!!

bug off!

kessel can score like 85 with a team 26th in the league, can score 38 goals on a line with tyler bozak.
put crosby with kessel and he'll break gretzkys goals in a season record
- Phil_kessel81

No he wont.


Might get that elusive 40 goal mark though!

Mckenzie says the Oilers!!!

bug off!


- robin_steele264

wanna just combine the leafs and oilers?

Mckenzie says the Oilers!!!

bug off!


- robin_steele264

I think we both know that's not happening

Oilers a few years from now when they're most likely a powerhouse...

No he wont.


Might get that elusive 40 goal mark though!
- robin_steele264

i was completely kidding about the gretzky comment lol, but yeaah he'd break 40 for sure, the only thing im worried about this year is that his point totals could drop because of carlyles style.....

wanna just combine the leafs and oilers?
- Phil_kessel81

Not really.

Burke and Lowe would work well together though, Im sure of it.

I think we both know that's not happening

Oilers a few years from now when they're most likely a powerhouse...
- Mr_Smokey

I think it could certainly happen, Oilers can offer him a lot in terms of playing time and talented youth to grow with.

Not really.

Burke and Lowe would work well together though, Im sure of it.
- robin_steele264

toronto sucks but we at least got a few good players.... i think

Crosby could score 100 points with actual penguins on his line.
- robin_steele264

Only if they protected his melon like this:

i was completely kidding about the gretzky comment lol, but yeaah he'd break 40 for sure, the only thing im worried about this year is that his point totals could drop because of carlyles style.....
- Phil_kessel81

Less points and more wins wouldnt be so bad.

Less points and more wins wouldnt be so bad.
- robin_steele264

i could see it being something like ovechkin in washington, points and goals decreased. But the overall performance of the team went up. Except for this year, i have no idea what the hell happend
edit: most likely injuries

I think it could certainly happen, Oilers can offer him a lot in terms of playing time and talented youth to grow with.
- robin_steele264

Common.... so can the Leafs.... and his buddy plays here too

i could see it being something like ovechkin in washington, points and goals decreased. But the overall performance of the team went up. Except for this year, i have no idea what the hell happend
edit: most likely injuries
- Phil_kessel81

What happened is Ovechkin had a leash on him. When you don't let your skilled players utilize their obvious advantage, your chances of winning as the level of competition increases is lesser, not greater.

Common.... so can the Leafs.... and his buddy plays here too
- Mr_Smokey

Oilers young core has a little more upside me thinks.

Oilers young core has a little more upside me thinks.



- robin_steele264

Very true... to which I'll respond - when was the last time a player "chose" to go to Edmonton without being grossly overpaid?

btw I'm not hating on Edmonton

No he wont.


Might get that elusive 40 goal mark though!
- robin_steele264

Agreed... noone will break Wayne's record.

Very true... to which I'll respond - when was the last time a player "chose" to go to Edmonton without being grossly overpaid?

btw I'm not hating on Edmonton
- Mr_Smokey

I guess last year when Eric Belanger, Ben Eager signed..

I could pose the same question about the Leafs.... not like UFA's flock there.

wanna just combine the leafs and oilers?
- Phil_kessel81

Didn't Ballard almost do a franchise for franchise swap over 3 decades ago?

I guess last year when Eric Belanger, Ben Eager signed..

I could pose the same question about the Leafs.... not like UFA's flock there.
- robin_steele264

Odd how they slipped my mind...

No one is flocking to Toronto.... outside of Komisarek Beauchemin and a few college FA's... We get scrubs like Connolly. Point is that high profile players.. even this kid to a lesser extent will not sign in Edmonton until that team proves that they aren't the worst in the league.

1. Sign Schultz to ELC max
2. Trade 5th overall + Kulemin + Franson for Jordan Staal
3. Trade Komisarek + Reimer for Luongo
4. Re-Sign RFA's: Frattin, Scrivens, and Holzer
5. Sign UFA's: Penner, Prust, Gaustad, and Crabb
6. Trade or bury Lombardi, Armstrong, and Connolly

Resulting Line up:

FORWARDS

Lupul ($4.250m) / Staal ($4.000m) / Kessel ($5.400m)
MacArthur ($3.250m) / Grabovski ($5.500m) / Penner ($2.500m)
Kadri ($1.720m) / Bozak ($1.500m) / Frattin ($1.300m)
Prust ($1.500m) / Gaustad ($2.300m) / Brown ($0.737m)
Steckel ($1.100m) / Crabb ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN

Gunnarsson ($1.325m) / Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Liles ($3.875m) / Schenn ($3.600m)
Gardiner ($1.117m) / Schultz ($3.775m)
Holzer ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS

Luongo ($5.333m)
Scrivens ($1.000m)

BUYOUTS - Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000

CAP PAYROLL: $64,131,667

CAP SPACE: $168,333
- The Shrike

I'd like to see a little more grit and defensive responsibility in our 3rd line.

Odd how they slipped my mind...

No one is flocking to Toronto.... outside of Komisarek Beauchemin and a few college FA's... We get scrubs like Connolly. Point is that high profile players.. even this kid to a lesser extent will not sign in Edmonton until that team proves that they aren't the worst in the league.
- Mr_Smokey

Well they proved they arent the worst in the league last year.

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I'm always baffled as to why people think Staal has this kind of value. Kulemin alone has achieved more offensively than Staal. More than that though, the real issue with paying a king's ransom for Staal - and this goes for any team, not just the Leafs - is that he will be a UFA in a year. I think it's pretty clear from McKenzie's comments that Staal probably has some desire to play with his brothers. You're essentially giving up a 20 goal scoring power winger, a top 5 pick, and a 30 point defender for 1 year of Jordan Staal - who has a career high of 52 points.
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No one will pay this kind of price for him, in my opinion.
- hockey-nerd

You're realism is very refreshing and we're in desperate need of it here, lol.

J. Staal for next years 1st, Schenn/Franson and McCarthur/Kulimen/Kadri. Deal?
- Allstarzz

I'm not saying I agree with the deal, but if given your perimeters, I'd be pissed if it was more than next years first + Franson + McCarthur.

Any other combination of those options, and it's a no go from our side.