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robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:32 AM ET
So we're not even signing our own RFA's (Frattin, Scrivens, Holzer)?
- The Shrike



Ok, you might get that done too i guess.

Phil_kessel81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.28.2011

May 20 @ 10:32 AM ET
Crosby could score 100 points with actual penguins on his line.
- robin_steele264

kessel can score like 85 with a team 26th in the league, can score 38 goals on a line with tyler bozak.
put crosby with kessel and he'll break gretzkys goals in a season record
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:33 AM ET
Every team will be in on this player... If the Gardiner comment holds true, then maybe the Leafs are out in front. The Leafs also being as putrid as they have last season have spots available on D.
- Mr_Smokey



Mckenzie says the Oilers!!!

bug off!

robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:34 AM ET
kessel can score like 85 with a team 26th in the league, can score 38 goals on a line with tyler bozak.
put crosby with kessel and he'll break gretzkys goals in a season record

- Phil_kessel81



No he wont.


Might get that elusive 40 goal mark though!

Phil_kessel81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.28.2011

May 20 @ 10:34 AM ET
Mckenzie says the Oilers!!!

bug off!


- robin_steele264

wanna just combine the leafs and oilers?
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

May 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
Mckenzie says the Oilers!!!

bug off!


- robin_steele264


I think we both know that's not happening

Oilers a few years from now when they're most likely a powerhouse...
Phil_kessel81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.28.2011

May 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
No he wont.


Might get that elusive 40 goal mark though!

- robin_steele264

i was completely kidding about the gretzky comment lol, but yeaah he'd break 40 for sure, the only thing im worried about this year is that his point totals could drop because of carlyles style.....
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:35 AM ET
wanna just combine the leafs and oilers?
- Phil_kessel81



Not really.

Burke and Lowe would work well together though, Im sure of it.


robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
I think we both know that's not happening

Oilers a few years from now when they're most likely a powerhouse...

- Mr_Smokey



I think it could certainly happen, Oilers can offer him a lot in terms of playing time and talented youth to grow with.

Phil_kessel81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.28.2011

May 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
Not really.

Burke and Lowe would work well together though, Im sure of it.

- robin_steele264

toronto sucks but we at least got a few good players.... i think
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

May 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
Crosby could score 100 points with actual penguins on his line.
- robin_steele264


Only if they protected his melon like this:

robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:37 AM ET
i was completely kidding about the gretzky comment lol, but yeaah he'd break 40 for sure, the only thing im worried about this year is that his point totals could drop because of carlyles style.....
- Phil_kessel81



Less points and more wins wouldnt be so bad.

Phil_kessel81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.28.2011

May 20 @ 10:39 AM ET
Less points and more wins wouldnt be so bad.
- robin_steele264

i could see it being something like ovechkin in washington, points and goals decreased. But the overall performance of the team went up. Except for this year, i have no idea what the hell happend
edit: most likely injuries
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

May 20 @ 10:44 AM ET
I think it could certainly happen, Oilers can offer him a lot in terms of playing time and talented youth to grow with.
- robin_steele264


Common.... so can the Leafs.... and his buddy plays here too
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

May 20 @ 10:44 AM ET
i could see it being something like ovechkin in washington, points and goals decreased. But the overall performance of the team went up. Except for this year, i have no idea what the hell happend
edit: most likely injuries

- Phil_kessel81


What happened is Ovechkin had a leash on him. When you don't let your skilled players utilize their obvious advantage, your chances of winning as the level of competition increases is lesser, not greater.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:47 AM ET
Common.... so can the Leafs.... and his buddy plays here too
- Mr_Smokey



Oilers young core has a little more upside me thinks.


Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

May 20 @ 10:50 AM ET
Oilers young core has a little more upside me thinks.



- robin_steele264


Very true... to which I'll respond - when was the last time a player "chose" to go to Edmonton without being grossly overpaid?

btw I'm not hating on Edmonton
Betelgeuse
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.19.2012

May 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
No he wont.


Might get that elusive 40 goal mark though!

- robin_steele264

Agreed... noone will break Wayne's record.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 10:52 AM ET
Very true... to which I'll respond - when was the last time a player "chose" to go to Edmonton without being grossly overpaid?

btw I'm not hating on Edmonton

- Mr_Smokey



I guess last year when Eric Belanger, Ben Eager signed..

I could pose the same question about the Leafs.... not like UFA's flock there.


Betelgeuse
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 05.19.2012

May 20 @ 10:56 AM ET
wanna just combine the leafs and oilers?
- Phil_kessel81

Didn't Ballard almost do a franchise for franchise swap over 3 decades ago?
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

May 20 @ 11:00 AM ET
I guess last year when Eric Belanger, Ben Eager signed..

I could pose the same question about the Leafs.... not like UFA's flock there.

- robin_steele264


Odd how they slipped my mind...

No one is flocking to Toronto.... outside of Komisarek Beauchemin and a few college FA's... We get scrubs like Connolly. Point is that high profile players.. even this kid to a lesser extent will not sign in Edmonton until that team proves that they aren't the worst in the league.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

May 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
1. Sign Schultz to ELC max
2. Trade 5th overall + Kulemin + Franson for Jordan Staal
3. Trade Komisarek + Reimer for Luongo
4. Re-Sign RFA's: Frattin, Scrivens, and Holzer
5. Sign UFA's: Penner, Prust, Gaustad, and Crabb
6. Trade or bury Lombardi, Armstrong, and Connolly

Resulting Line up:

FORWARDS

Lupul ($4.250m) / Staal ($4.000m) / Kessel ($5.400m)
MacArthur ($3.250m) / Grabovski ($5.500m) / Penner ($2.500m)
Kadri ($1.720m) / Bozak ($1.500m) / Frattin ($1.300m)
Prust ($1.500m) / Gaustad ($2.300m) / Brown ($0.737m)
Steckel ($1.100m) / Crabb ($0.800m)

DEFENSEMEN

Gunnarsson ($1.325m) / Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Liles ($3.875m) / Schenn ($3.600m)
Gardiner ($1.117m) / Schultz ($3.775m)
Holzer ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS

Luongo ($5.333m)
Scrivens ($1.000m)

BUYOUTS - Darcy Tucker ($1.000m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000

CAP PAYROLL: $64,131,667

CAP SPACE: $168,333

- The Shrike



I'd like to see a little more grit and defensive responsibility in our 3rd line.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 20 @ 11:02 AM ET
Odd how they slipped my mind...

No one is flocking to Toronto.... outside of Komisarek Beauchemin and a few college FA's... We get scrubs like Connolly. Point is that high profile players.. even this kid to a lesser extent will not sign in Edmonton until that team proves that they aren't the worst in the league.

- Mr_Smokey



Well they proved they arent the worst in the league last year.

clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

May 20 @ 11:04 AM ET
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I'm always baffled as to why people think Staal has this kind of value. Kulemin alone has achieved more offensively than Staal. More than that though, the real issue with paying a king's ransom for Staal - and this goes for any team, not just the Leafs - is that he will be a UFA in a year. I think it's pretty clear from McKenzie's comments that Staal probably has some desire to play with his brothers. You're essentially giving up a 20 goal scoring power winger, a top 5 pick, and a 30 point defender for 1 year of Jordan Staal - who has a career high of 52 points.
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No one will pay this kind of price for him, in my opinion.

- hockey-nerd


You're realism is very refreshing and we're in desperate need of it here, lol.
clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

May 20 @ 11:07 AM ET
J. Staal for next years 1st, Schenn/Franson and McCarthur/Kulimen/Kadri. Deal?
- Allstarzz


I'm not saying I agree with the deal, but if given your perimeters, I'd be pissed if it was more than next years first + Franson + McCarthur.

Any other combination of those options, and it's a no go from our side.
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