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weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

May 18 @ 5:14 PM ET
oooowwww great a game to watch tonight
- dmnted




Blue Jays?
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

May 18 @ 5:14 PM ET
Stasny, luongo, and stewart to the leafs, chill
- Mapleleafs_91

The long weekend has started!! Cheers
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

May 18 @ 5:16 PM ET
Was that the Harmony Airlines guy?
- JIMI-JAMES

I'm not sure are you talking about this guy?

Or this guy


Im talking about the second guy.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 18 @ 5:42 PM ET
man UG really got to you, Mike...
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

May 18 @ 5:44 PM ET
wait for it... now that the Leafs AHL team is doing okay in the playoffs, the Hab, Sens and of course the HongKonganucks fans will start yapping how that's insignicant.. .and that combined with the only the top four players in the upcoming draft are okay.

Go Expos... Go Grizzlies...

- BorjeFan4Ever


Not at all! It's my belief that winning an AHL championship is a sure fire sign that the big team is going to win a championship in the near future.

All that experience Erik Condra got is gonna put the Sens over the top

P.S. You forgot "Go Rough Riders/Renegades"
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

May 18 @ 5:46 PM ET
man UG really got to you, Mike...
- DoubleDown


No.....I was saving the best for last.....or should I say the worst!!!
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 18 @ 6:09 PM ET
No.....I was saving the best for last.....or should I say the worst!!!
- mikeinbuffalo


Trade Kadri?

You serious?

For the first time in a long time, the Leafs hit the draft, try and develop a player properly and now trade the guy? No way.

I'm not going to try and say Kadri is a franchise player because he's not. I don't even think he's going to be good enough all around to be a 1st line player. But to suggest that we need to trade him, at 22, after doing well in the AHL and leading the Marlies in playoff scoring, is crazy.

Obviously, nobody is untouchable. If tomorrow, somebody gave us a trade we couldn't turn down, it's one thing but right now, Kadri won't get you anything more than what his future has in store which is an offensive, top-six winger.

Let's try and keep our picks and prospect. You know, just for a change.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 18 @ 6:16 PM ET
Not at all! It's my belief that winning an AHL championship is a sure fire sign that the big team is going to win a championship in the near future.

All that experience Erik Condra got is gonna put the Sens over the top

P.S. You forgot "Go Rough Riders/Renegades"

- Mr_Clean


I didn't forget. They're even more insignificant than the others.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

May 18 @ 6:24 PM ET
Trade Kadri?

You serious?

For the first time in a long time, the Leafs hit the draft, try and develop a player properly and now trade the guy? No way.

I'm not going to try and say Kadri is a franchise player because he's not. I don't even think he's going to be good enough all around to be a 1st line player. But to suggest that we need to trade him, at 22, after doing well in the AHL and leading the Marlies in playoff scoring, is crazy.

Obviously, nobody is untouchable. If tomorrow, somebody gave us a trade we couldn't turn down, it's one thing but right now, Kadri won't get you anything more than what his future has in store which is an offensive, top-six winger.

Let's try and keep our picks and prospect. You know, just for a change.

- Unholy_Goalie


I believe that if they are going to make a deal for a guy like Staal, Getzlaf or Nash, that Kadri is going to be part of that deal. I think there is more a likelihood of a deal like that happening than there is of it not happening.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 18 @ 6:43 PM ET
I believe that if they are going to make a deal for a guy like Staal, Getzlaf or Nash, that Kadri is going to be part of that deal. I think there is more a likelihood of a deal like that happening than there is of it not happening.
- mikeinbuffalo


Nash doesnt make sense coming here unless major salary cap goes back to CBJ for them to handle this year then they are free from it, and a cut down of what goes back for nash.

Staal and Getzlaf will likely be resigned since the ducks will have LOTS of money after this season or this very season to extend both perry and getz. Staal will also be resigned, i doubt the pens would get rid of staal, he has done nothing wrong. They could always shed some cap.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 18 @ 6:46 PM ET
I believe that if they are going to make a deal for a guy like Staal, Getzlaf or Nash, that Kadri is going to be part of that deal. I think there is more a likelihood of a deal like that happening than there is of it not happening.
- mikeinbuffalo


If Kadri was the type of player that was already in the NHL and had scored 20 goals and 50 points in a season, maybe those teams would entertain that idea. But in the real world, they won't. Why would they? Why would any one of those teams trade away any one of those players and expect Kadri plus a little extra to fill the void?

Look, the bottom line here is that Kadri's value isn't high right now. You won't convince a team to take him and give up a legit star player in exchange. Even if you add to the deal, it's still not likely. The only way you could boost his value is by giving him a roster spot next year and letting him put up some numbers.

Sorry to break it to you Mike, but one of those three guys isn't LIKELY coming to Toronto. The fact that Eklund, from time to time, says they are should be the kiss of death.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 18 @ 6:47 PM ET
Nash doesnt make sense coming here unless major salary cap goes back to CBJ for them to handle this year then they are free from it, and a cut down of what goes back for nash.
- Mapleleafs_91


Of all the players, Nash to Toronto makes the least amount of sense. He's a scoring right winger. We already have one of those. If the Leafs acquire Nash, they would have to move Kessel for a center because acquiring Nash solves absolutely none of the problems that this team has.
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

May 18 @ 7:13 PM ET
I didn't forget. They're even more insignificant than the others.
- BorjeFan4Ever


Damned if I care, I was born and raised in Manitoba anyways
LEAFSfan28191
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PEPPER FOREVER!!!!!, SK
Joined: 06.02.2010

May 18 @ 7:44 PM ET
Trade Kadri?

You serious?

For the first time in a long time, the Leafs hit the draft, try and develop a player properly and now trade the guy? No way.

I'm not going to try and say Kadri is a franchise player because he's not. I don't even think he's going to be good enough all around to be a 1st line player. But to suggest that we need to trade him, at 22, after doing well in the AHL and leading the Marlies in playoff scoring, is crazy.

Obviously, nobody is untouchable. If tomorrow, somebody gave us a trade we couldn't turn down, it's one thing but right now, Kadri won't get you anything more than what his future has in store which is an offensive, top-six winger.

Let's try and keep our picks and prospect. You know, just for a change.

- Unholy_Goalie

gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 18 @ 7:54 PM ET
Of all the players, Nash to Toronto makes the least amount of sense. He's a scoring right winger. We already have one of those. If the Leafs acquire Nash, they would have to move Kessel for a center because acquiring Nash solves absolutely none of the problems that this team has.
- Unholy_Goalie


Parise in the off-season, and maybe if he moves back to center, but other than that, I don't see any center coming here in a blockbuster. We don't have the pieces, not with their current value.

If guy's like Schenn have a turnaround season, Kadri makes the club out of camp and puts up some respectable numbers, then we're getting close (like B. Schenn and Wayne Simmonds for Richards would never have happened had both players been unproven prospects at the time), but I still don't think it's enough and there isn't exactly a surplus of #1 centers on the market.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 18 @ 7:59 PM ET
Parise in the off-season, and maybe if he moves back to center, but other than that, I don't see any center coming here in a blockbuster. We don't have the pieces, not with their current value.
- gravyface


Zach Parise. Is. NOT. A. Center.

Putting Parise at center is just as logical as putting Kessel at center.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 18 @ 8:04 PM ET
Zach Parise. Is. NOT. A. Center.

Putting Parise at center is just as logical as putting Kessel at center.

- Unholy_Goalie


Devils had no problem with him playing center this year periodically and I'm pretty sure he was a center at U. of North Dakota.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 18 @ 8:08 PM ET
Devils had no problem with him playing center this year periodically and I'm pretty sure he was a center at U. of North Dakota.
- gravyface


They only did that because of injuries. And it didn't work too great. He doesn't like it either.

So what if he played center in the NCAA? He hasn't played there in 8 years.

He's not a center. People need to stop dreaming about it.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
I like the AHL playoffs
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 18 @ 8:24 PM ET
Devils had no problem with him playing center this year periodically and I'm pretty sure he was a center at U. of North Dakota.
- gravyface

No
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 18 @ 8:31 PM ET
Of all the players, Nash to Toronto makes the least amount of sense. He's a scoring right winger. We already have one of those. If the Leafs acquire Nash, they would have to move Kessel for a center because acquiring Nash solves absolutely none of the problems that this team has.
- Unholy_Goalie


That's not necessarily true. Firstly, Nasj is a left winger, not a right winger but I'm pretty sure he can play either side. Secondly, acquiring him and filling a need depends on who goes the other way. If Kulie or Mac are included in the deal, he becomes the replacement on Grabo's line.
Timeforsoup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Please don't mock me merciless, ON
Joined: 10.15.2011

May 18 @ 8:35 PM ET
That's not necessarily true. Firstly, Nasj is a left winger, not a right winger but I'm pretty sure he can play either side. Secondly, acquiring him and filling a need depends on who goes the other way. If Kulie or Mac are included in the deal, he becomes the replacement on Grabo's line.
- Phenom


7.8 mil for a second line winger? And nash is not a left winger. He plays right.
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

May 18 @ 8:46 PM ET
They only did that because of injuries. And it didn't work too great. He doesn't like it either.

So what if he played center in the NCAA? He hasn't played there in 8 years.

He's not a center. People need to stop dreaming about it.

- Unholy_Goalie


I'm not dreaming about it, whether he plays center, wing, or drives the Zamboni, I don't think we're getting him. We have some serious salary to move to fit him in and that's not happening until next year when Armstrong, Connolly, and Lombardi come off the books.
Phenom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: TITS baby, TITS - Trust In The Shanaplan, ON
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 18 @ 8:48 PM ET
7.8 mil for a second line winger? And nash is not a left winger. He plays right.
- Timeforsoup


Even so, like I said, he can play either side. Regardless of his salary, he (and by default) his line would play significant minutes, including PP time. There wouldn't necessarily be much distinction between the 1st and 2nd line. You can't play him at center, it would be stupid to split up Kessel and Lupul and you can't have 4 people on one line, so naturally he'd play with Grabo and Mac/Kuli.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

May 18 @ 8:51 PM ET
That's not necessarily true. Firstly, Nasj is a left winger, not a right winger but I'm pretty sure he can play either side. Secondly, acquiring him and filling a need depends on who goes the other way. If Kulie or Mac are included in the deal, he becomes the replacement on Grabo's line.
- Phenom


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