It matters cause we'd be in the same spot roughly.
Not .500. Which was the main point u made.

Anyway, as u said, i cant change your mind.
And Im not arguing dubs isnt the better option GOING FORWARD.
I just think theres many reasons why we were so bad, and nik was only one of em.
- hugefemale dog77

That argument makes no sense. Khabibulin still finished the season with a record of 12 wins and 20 losses. You have to take the good with the bad... You just can't pick out the wins.

I agree that there were many reasons why we weren't good... I just think Khabibulin is the most obvious one. You can also add in the fact that vets were playing like sh1t, and our D wasn't good... BUT, our vets were sh1t, and our D was bad when Dubnyk played as well... Dubnyk = .500 team... Khabibulin = Sh1t team.

A brief callup means very little. Guys play differently in those callups. Smyth is asking for 3mil which isn't the end of the world, it's the term. You won't find too many people that know what they are talking about that wouldn't take Smyth, but it has to make sense long-term.

People seem to forget that we only have Hall as the only other LW and he could very well be injured to start the year. Having Smyth will help.
- Lahey

K.

Anyway, he doesnt want 1 year. And i wouldnt give him 3@more than 1 year.
U said the same in a conversation with me not 2 days ago.

No ones saying teemu couldnt use some more development.
Or is the answer. Roster space and upcoming contracts dont give us alot if options up front.
But Call up or not. Hes a physical presence. We could use that.
Size and sandpaper is a big an issue as almost anything else currently.

K.

Anyway, he doesnt want 1 year. And i wouldnt give him 3@more than 1 year.
U said the same in a conversation with me not 2 days ago.

No ones saying teemu couldnt use some more development.
Or is the answer. Roster space and upcoming contracts dont give us alot if options up front.
But Call up or not. Hes a physical presence. We could use that.
Size and sandpaper is a big an issue as almost anything else currently.
- hugefemale dog77

This is as poor as an excuse as the gf who just came back from a jog, but won't lay there and get (frank)ed because she has a head ache.

Edit: I'd give him 2 years.

K.

Anyway, he doesnt want 1 year. And i wouldnt give him 3@more than 1 year.
U said the same in a conversation with me not 2 days ago.

No ones saying teemu couldnt use some more development.
Or is the answer. Roster space and upcoming contracts dont give us alot if options up front.
But Call up or not. Hes a physical presence. We could use that.
Size and sandpaper is a big an issue as almost anything else currently.
- hugefemale dog77

Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That argument makes no sense. Khabibulin still finished the season with a record of 12 wins and 20 losses. You have to take the good with the bad... You just can't pick out the wins.

I agree that there were many reasons why we weren't good... I just think Khabibulin is the most obvious one. You can also add in the fact that vets were playing like sh1t, and our D wasn't good... BUT, our vets were sh1t, and our D was bad when Dubnyk played as well... Dubnyk = .500 team... Khabibulin = Sh1t team.
- laughs2907

Of course it does. Take away niks ridiculous play in those months and add in dubs' more consistent play (?) and minus ten pts roughly.

Do the same later, and add back roughly the same.
Still not .500. Exact science or not, it was your argument.

This is as poor as an excuse as the gf who just came back from a jog, but won't lay there and get (frank)ed because she has a head ache.

Edit: I'd give him 2 years.
- Lahey

Is there anyway we can sign Smyth to a contract where he only plays the first 30 games of the season?

Of course it does. Take away niks ridiculous play in those months and add in dubs' more consistent play (?) and minus ten pts roughly.

Do the same later, and add back roughly the same.

Still not .500. Exact science or not, it was your argument.
Not that hard to figure out.
- hugefemale dog77

You are talking to the guy who has decided which pringles can to use for a fleshlight, the sour cream or BBQ.

Is there anyway we can sign Smyth to a contract where he only plays the first 30 games of the season?
- laughs2907

Yes

Is there anyway we can sign Smyth to a contract where he only plays the first 30 games of the season?
- laughs2907

Is there anyway we can sign Smyth to a contract where he only plays the first 30 games of the season?
- laughs2907

You are talking to the guy who has decided which pringles can to use for a fleshlight, the sour cream or BBQ.
- Lahey

Don't knock it until you try it.

K.

Anyway, he doesnt want 1 year. And i wouldnt give him 3@more than 1 year.
U said the same in a conversation with me not 2 days ago.

No ones saying teemu couldnt use some more development.
Or is the answer. Roster space and upcoming contracts dont give us alot if options up front.
But Call up or not. Hes a physical presence. We could use that.
Size and sandpaper is a big an issue as almost anything else currently.
- hugefemale dog77

Harti should have to earn a roster spot like everybody else. He shouldn't be just "penciled in".

Of course it does. Take away niks ridiculous play in those months and add in dubs' more consistent play (?) and minus ten pts roughly.

Do the same later, and add back roughly the same.
Still not .500. Exact science or not, it was your argument.
- hugefemale dog77

I meant the team was .500 while playing for goalie X.

When...
X = Dubnyk, our team was 20-20-3 last season (played as a .500 team)... Combine the last two seasons, and the team was 32-33-11 (close to a .500 team)

X = Khabibulin, our team was 12-20-7 last season, and a 22-52-11, over the last two seasons combined.

I'm not taking away from what Khabibulin did at the start of last season... It was fantastic, but you have to factor in what he did for the rest of the season. The bottom line is that when Khabibulin plays in net, our record is far from .500... When Dubnyk plays in net, our team was a .500 team last season, and very close to a .500 the season before.

I'm talking about the win% when a specific goalie is in net for us...

You are talking to the guy who has decided which pringles can to use for a fleshlight, the sour cream or BBQ.
- Lahey

So are you denying facts too? These are actual stats I'm talking here.

Harti should have to earn a roster spot like everybody else. He shouldn't be just "penciled in".
- mochoson

Yes

Yes
- hugefemale dog77

I'd be fine with this team going out and signing a guy like Paille and a dman.

Let the rest of the kids battle it out for roster spots

I'd be fine with this team going out and signing a guy like Paille and a dman.

Let the rest of the kids battle it out for roster spots
- mochoson

Kelly, Chris.

I'd be fine with this team going out and signing a guy like Paille and a dman.

Let the rest of the kids battle it out for roster spots
- mochoson

The dman is paramount in relation to another 3rd line winger

Here's my pipedream roster for next season.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Taylor Hall ($3.750m) / Sam Gagner ($3.500m) / Ales Hemsky ($5.000m)
Magnus Paajarvi ($1.525m) / Ryan Nu-Hop ($3.775m) / Jordan Eberle ($1.158m)
Ryan Jones ($1.500m) / Shawn Horcoff ($5.500m) / Nail Yakupov ($3.775m)
Tyler Pitlick ($0.900m) / Eric Belanger ($1.750m) / Teemu Hartikainen ($0.875m)
Ben Eager ($1.100m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Whitney ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($5.250m)
Ladislav Smid ($2.250m) / Jeff Petry ($2.500m)
Nick Schultz ($3.500m) / Michal Rozsival ($2.000m)
Andy Sutton ($1.750m) / Corey Potter ($0.775m)
GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($1.500m)
Devan Dubnyk ($1.200m)
BUYOUTS
Sheldon Souray ($1.500m) / Nikolai Khabibulin ($3.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,083,333; BONUSES: $6,887,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $216,667

Kelly, Chris.
- Lahey

Ship belanger and put him on the fourth?

Hes an effin solid player ill grant, but then him, horc, belanger and lander...

Here's my pipedream roster for next season.

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Taylor Hall ($3.750m) / Sam Gagner ($3.500m) / Ales Hemsky ($5.000m)
Magnus Paajarvi ($1.525m) / Ryan Nu-Hop ($3.775m) / Jordan Eberle ($1.158m)
Ryan Jones ($1.500m) / Shawn Horcoff ($5.500m) / Nail Yakupov ($3.775m)
Tyler Pitlick ($0.900m) / Eric Belanger ($1.750m) / Teemu Hartikainen ($0.875m)
Ben Eager ($1.100m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Whitney ($4.000m) / Matt Carle ($5.250m)
Ladislav Smid ($2.250m) / Jeff Petry ($2.500m)
Nick Schultz ($3.500m) / Michal Rozsival ($2.000m)
Andy Sutton ($1.750m) / Corey Potter ($0.775m)
GOALTENDERS
Tomas Vokoun ($1.500m)
Devan Dubnyk ($1.200m)
BUYOUTS
Sheldon Souray ($1.500m) / Nikolai Khabibulin ($3.750m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,083,333; BONUSES: $6,887,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $216,667
- Starbuck

I thought you were better than this.

Ship belanger and put him on the fourth?

Hes an effin solid player ill grant, but then him, horc, belanger and lander...
- hugefemale dog77

Keep em both.

The dman is paramount in relation to another 3rd line winger
- hugefemale dog77

Not really.

The dmen available this summer are all solid, but unspectacular. The roster is currently filled with them. If I'm Tambo, I have marginal interest in only a few, and no interest in the rest.

You do what you can. If all it makes sense to do is add a guy like Moen or Paille, then thats all you do FA wise.

I thought you were better than this.
- Lahey

I was running out of cap space I needed cheap filler... that damn Horcoff contract.

I was running out of cap space
- Starbuck

You (frank)ing twat. You can sign proven role players for cheaper.