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willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

May 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
I cannot believe I am doing this but.......

Why would Bergevin consider a Kaberle buyout?

I was dead set against this acquisition when it happened and am still of the beleif that we are better off without him but a buyout would be beyond stupid.

A buyout for Kaberle would mean basically a $1.5 cap hit over the next 4 years. You can argue that this is not bad all things considering and we can easily overcome it but Kaberle scored 22 points in 43 games as a member of this team.

Over a full season that translates into about a 42 pt campaign.Had this pace maintained how many D-men would have had more points?

Offensively Kaberle is a top 20 D-man in this league putting him alongside guys like Yandle, Keith, Letang, etc....

Why simply give up on this to save $3 million for 2 seasons?

The solution to me assuming he cannot be dealt is to keep Kaberle and secure him by putting him with a defensively reliable D-man.

We have Markov with Emelin, Gorges with Subban, let's forget about regular ice time to Diaz and Weber and let's put Kaberle with a big right handed shot (or guy who plays the right side) who'll take care of play in his own zone.

If this was my team I would have him playing alongside Josh Gorges and then sign a guy like Jackman to play alongside Subban
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
I cannot believe I am doing this but.......

Why would Bergevin consider a Kaberle buyout?

I was dead set against this acquisition when it happened and am still of the beleif that we are better off without him but a buyout would be beyond stupid.

A buyout for Kaberle would mean basically a $1.5 cap hit over the next 4 years. You can argue that this is not bad all things considering and we can easily overcome it but Kaberle scored 22 points in 43 games as a member of this team.

Over a full season that translates into about a 42 pt campaign.Had this pace maintained how many D-men would have had more points?

Offensively Kaberle is a top 20 D-man in this league putting him alongside guys like Yandle, Keith, Letang, etc....

Why simply give up on this to save $3 million for 2 seasons?

The solution to me assuming he cannot be dealt is to keep Kaberle and secure him by putting him with a defensively reliable D-man.

We have Markov with Emelin, Gorges with Subban, let's forget about regular ice time to Diaz and Weber and let's put Kaberle with a big right handed shot (or guy who plays the right side) who'll take care of play in his own zone.

If this was my team I would have him playing alongside Josh Gorges and then sign a guy like Jackman to play alongside Subban

- willey101

Trade Kaberle for Komisarek.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
I cannot believe I am doing this but.......

Why would Bergevin consider a Kaberle buyout?

I was dead set against this acquisition when it happened and am still of the beleif that we are better off without him but a buyout would be beyond stupid.

A buyout for Kaberle would mean basically a $1.5 cap hit over the next 4 years. You can argue that this is not bad all things considering and we can easily overcome it but Kaberle scored 22 points in 43 games as a member of this team.

Over a full season that translates into about a 42 pt campaign.Had this pace maintained how many D-men would have had more points?

Offensively Kaberle is a top 20 D-man in this league putting him alongside guys like Yandle, Keith, Letang, etc....

Why simply give up on this to save $3 million for 2 seasons?

The solution to me assuming he cannot be dealt is to keep Kaberle and secure him by putting him with a defensively reliable D-man.

We have Markov with Emelin, Gorges with Subban, let's forget about regular ice time to Diaz and Weber and let's put Kaberle with a big right handed shot (or guy who plays the right side) who'll take care of play in his own zone.

If this was my team I would have him playing alongside Josh Gorges and then sign a guy like Jackman to play alongside Subban

- willey101



willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

May 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
Trade Kaberle for Komisarek.
- _nay_


I'll be chastised for this but I would actually do that.
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

May 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
I cannot believe I am doing this but.......

Why would Bergevin consider a Kaberle buyout?

I was dead set against this acquisition when it happened and am still of the beleif that we are better off without him but a buyout would be beyond stupid.

A buyout for Kaberle would mean basically a $1.5 cap hit over the next 4 years. You can argue that this is not bad all things considering and we can easily overcome it but Kaberle scored 22 points in 43 games as a member of this team.

Over a full season that translates into about a 42 pt campaign.Had this pace maintained how many D-men would have had more points?

Offensively Kaberle is a top 20 D-man in this league putting him alongside guys like Yandle, Keith, Letang, etc....

Why simply give up on this to save $3 million for 2 seasons?

The solution to me assuming he cannot be dealt is to keep Kaberle and secure him by putting him with a defensively reliable D-man.

We have Markov with Emelin, Gorges with Subban, let's forget about regular ice time to Diaz and Weber and let's put Kaberle with a big right handed shot (or guy who plays the right side) who'll take care of play in his own zone.

If this was my team I would have him playing alongside Josh Gorges and then sign a guy like Jackman to play alongside Subban

- willey101

Any chance Beaulieu or Tinordi jump in this season?
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
I cannot believe I am doing this but.......

Why would Bergevin consider a Kaberle buyout?

I was dead set against this acquisition when it happened and am still of the beleif that we are better off without him but a buyout would be beyond stupid.

A buyout for Kaberle would mean basically a $1.5 cap hit over the next 4 years. You can argue that this is not bad all things considering and we can easily overcome it but Kaberle scored 22 points in 43 games as a member of this team.

Over a full season that translates into about a 42 pt campaign.Had this pace maintained how many D-men would have had more points?

Offensively Kaberle is a top 20 D-man in this league putting him alongside guys like Yandle, Keith, Letang, etc....

Why simply give up on this to save $3 million for 2 seasons?

The solution to me assuming he cannot be dealt is to keep Kaberle and secure him by putting him with a defensively reliable D-man.

We have Markov with Emelin, Gorges with Subban, let's forget about regular ice time to Diaz and Weber and let's put Kaberle with a big right handed shot (or guy who plays the right side) who'll take care of play in his own zone.

If this was my team I would have him playing alongside Josh Gorges and then sign a guy like Jackman to play alongside Subban

- willey101


Agree with the no buyout, but not with the playing him. If we are stuck with him he should sent to Hamilton or playing limited minutes as a 7th dman.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
@CanadiensMTL
Twenty games was all Ryan White needed to leave his mark on the Habs’ lineup…and a few of his opponents’ faces.


Anyone knows how many of those games were losses?
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

May 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
I'll be chastised for this but I would actually do that.
- willey101


I wouldn't...unless Traitorsarek is in his last contract year (which I don't think is the case).

EDIT: wow...the bolded was my attempt at saying the last year of his contract.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
I'll be chastised for this but I would actually do that.
- willey101

Komisarek on a 3rd pair > Kaberle on a 3rd pair
HABSFAN78
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.12.2009

May 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
Trade Kaberle for Komisarek.
- _nay_



Plus Komisarek has a no move clause, no way he accepts a trade back to Montreal.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
@CanadiensMTL
Twenty games was all Ryan White needed to leave his mark on the Habs’ lineup…and a few of his opponents’ faces.


Anyone knows how many of those games were losses?

- Pecafan Fan

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willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

May 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Agree with the no buyout, but not with the playing him. If we are stuck with him he should sent to Hamilton or playing limited minutes as a 7th dman.
- Oilhab


No way......if you are going to bury him then might as well just buyout....it's only $1.5 million.

For me it's either deal him or put him in a position to suceed
jaymster790
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Elsewhere, QC
Joined: 03.16.2009

May 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
@CanadiensMTL
Twenty games was all Ryan White needed to leave his mark on the Habs’ lineup…and a few of his opponents’ faces.


Anyone knows how many of those games were losses?

- Pecafan Fan

Ryan White= impact player
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

May 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
No way......if you are going to bury him then might as well just buyout....it's only $1.5 million.

For me it's either deal him or put him in a position to suceed

- willey101


the bench sounds about right...


willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

May 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Ryan White= impact player
- jaymster790


Not sure if your sarcastic but he 100% is
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

May 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
I predict Habs finish 15th next season

















in the east...
RENATO6
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I like you, the flower is kill, ON
Joined: 08.12.2009

May 17 @ 3:52 PM ET
I wouldn't...unless Traitorsarek is in his last contract year (which I don't think is the case).

EDIT: wow...the bolded was my attempt at saying the last year of his contract.

- number_23



We've seen worse from you...

EDIT: on an hourly basis
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 17 @ 3:53 PM ET
I wouldn't...unless Traitorsarek is in his last contract year (which I don't think is the case).

EDIT: wow...the bolded was my attempt at saying the last year of his contract.

- number_23

Do you plan on assassinate him?

He has 2 years remaining on his contract with a cap hit of 4.5M, 250K more than Kaberle. Make him play with Markov.
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

May 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
We've seen worse from you...

EDIT: on an hourly basis

- RENATO6


thank you for you contribution to this site.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
I predict Habs finish 15th next season


in the east...

- BingoLady

And what did you predict this year?
number_23
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Euuuuh, un porc-épic?
Joined: 10.15.2008

May 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
Do you plan on assassinate him?

He has 2 years remaining on his contract with a cap hit of 4.5M, 250K more than Kaberle. Make him play with Markov.

- _nay_


Keep Kaberle then...
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 17 @ 3:54 PM ET
No way......if you are going to bury him then might as well just buyout....it's only $1.5 million.

For me it's either deal him or put him in a position to suceed

- willey101



Habs will be happy to have him, when the injury bug starts to bite.
willey101
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Am an addict for Habs talk. i
Joined: 10.06.2005

May 17 @ 3:55 PM ET
Habs will be happy to have him, when the injury bug starts to bite.
- pete26


I beleive the injury bug is attracted to smaller players. get bigger and we'll see less injuries
BingoLady
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Ultimate Warrior, NB
Joined: 07.15.2009

May 17 @ 3:56 PM ET
And what did you predict this year?
- _nay_

higher..
RENATO6
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I like you, the flower is kill, ON
Joined: 08.12.2009

May 17 @ 3:56 PM ET
thank you for you contribution to this site.
- number_23



You are welcome. It is nice to be appreciated.
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