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Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 16 @ 10:50 PM ET
pronger used to play 30 minutes a night in the playoffs
- flyerscup2011

But Pronger played on special teams too, which factors in.

Plus, Prongs is just a beast. If he can handle it, then why not roll him out there?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 16 @ 10:50 PM ET
Brodeur's been practicing?


- tangent_man


C'mon, Brodeur acts like he's been shot if he smells a guy's Old Spice
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 16 @ 10:51 PM ET
pronger used to play 30 minutes a night in the playoffs
- flyerscup2011


What does one guy playing 30 minutes a game have to do with playing the 6th d-man 4 minutes?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 16 @ 10:52 PM ET
What does one guy playing 30 minutes a game have to do with playing the 6th d-man 4 minutes?
- PLindbergh31


well the other 5 have to pick up the slack, right?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 16 @ 10:52 PM ET
What does one guy playing 30 minutes a game have to do with playing the 6th d-man 4 minutes?
- PLindbergh31


Rangers lost, Im happy. I hope they keep doing the same thing.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 16 @ 10:52 PM ET
I'd have a lot more interest in Jake Gardiner, considering how the Flyers defense is presently construed.
- Jsaquella


Or Justin Schultz.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
Tortorella is an idiot. Nothing else needs to be said.

Vastly overrated, in my opinion.

- Giroux_Is_God


I despise the guy, not sure he's overrated. He's got a pretty good resume, and his teams play hard for him. Not to mention he holds guys accountable. Gaborik was glued to the bench down a goal in the third period.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
C'mon, Brodeur acts like he's been shot if he smells a guy's Old Spice
- Jsaquella


I don't blame any of 'em, considering the refs can't tell the difference between goaltender interference and a defenseman shoving a player into him, especially from a vantage point 10 feet away.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 16 @ 10:53 PM ET
What does one guy playing 30 minutes a game have to do with playing the 6th d-man 4 minutes?
- PLindbergh31


if one guy is playing 30 of 60 minutes, it means someone is probably playing less than ten.

also, remember NICK BOYNTON playing a game or two for the hawks in the finals a couple years ago? there's a guy like that on every roster. how about bart/krajicek/parent for us in '10?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 16 @ 10:54 PM ET
What does one guy playing 30 minutes a game have to do with playing the 6th d-man 4 minutes?
- PLindbergh31


See Parent, Ryan; Bartulis, Oskars in 2010 playoffs.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
I don't blame any of 'em, considering the refs can't tell the difference between goaltender interference and a defenseman shoving a player into him, especially from a vantage point 10 feet away.
- tangent_man


I don't necessarily blame them, but when they whine about interference and then embellish when somebody breathes on them, it reinforces my hatred of the refs
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
well the other 5 have to pick up the slack, right?
- flyerscup2011


Yeah, but my point is the Rangers have played 16 playoff games already, and to win the Cup they are going to have to play at least 23 games. Doing that with 5 d-men is damn near impossible.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 16 @ 10:55 PM ET
It's TV. I really should be an Emmy.
- tangent_man



Details...
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 16 @ 10:56 PM ET
Yeah, but my point is the Rangers have played 16 playoff games already, and to win the Cup they are going to have to play at least 23 games. Doing that with 5 d-men is damn near impossible.
- PLindbergh31

Horseshoe. It beats all odds.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 16 @ 10:56 PM ET
Well, thats makes more sense but why not leave it to the teams to be cap-compliant if a LTIR moves off that category to active? Like in the regular season?
- PT21


Because teams could take advantage of that and stash players on their team during the off season. The cap is not only about putting a leash on spending. But also about creating parity. The bigger market richer teams could have an even bigger advantage.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 16 @ 10:57 PM ET
Yeah, but my point is the Rangers have played 16 playoff games already, and to win the Cup they are going to have to play at least 23 games. Doing that with 5 d-men is damn near impossible.
- PLindbergh31


it depends on how much stamina their dmen have. pronger and niedermeyer did it consistently when anaheim won the cup
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 16 @ 10:58 PM ET


Details...

- Giroux_Is_God


That's the problem with today's youth...accuracy doesn't matter, just get in the neighborhood.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 16 @ 10:58 PM ET
Why does the Rangers 6th d-man play 4 minutes a game?

Great formula, play one 7 game series, after another, and play 5 dmen.

- PLindbergh31


How has it been working for them so far to this point in the playoffs?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 16 @ 10:58 PM ET
it depends on how much stamina their dmen have. pronger and niedermeyer did it consistently when anaheim won the cup
- flyerscup2011


We shall see. Guys will be out of gas.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
I don't necessarily blame them, but when they whine about interference and then embellish when somebody breathes on them, it reinforces my hatred of the refs
- Jsaquella


Well, Chris Lee was on the ice tonight. The odds were 50/50 for Lundqvist there.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 16 @ 10:59 PM ET
How has it been working for them so far to this point in the playoffs?
- MJL


Fantastic. 9-7 against the #6, #7, and # 8 seeds. Juggernaut.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 16 @ 11:00 PM ET
Gotta give Torts credit for doling out the accountability even in a crucial game. Gabriok doesn't do a good enough job on the point shot blocking, gets his butt glued to the bench. Everyone on the squad knows they better play hard at all times, or sit they will.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 16 @ 11:00 PM ET
if one guy is playing 30 of 60 minutes, it means someone is probably playing less than ten.

also, remember NICK BOYNTON playing a game or two for the hawks in the finals a couple years ago? there's a guy like that on every roster. how about bart/krajicek/parent for us in '10?

- OrangeBlack27


Chara plays 30+ minutes a game. Who was the Bruins 4 minute a game defenseman in the playoffs last year?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 16 @ 11:02 PM ET
Fantastic. 9-7 against the #6, #7, and # 8 seeds. Juggernaut.
- PLindbergh31


I guess I have to again explain how the playoffs work. Series are 7 games. The team that wins 4 out of 7, advances to the next round. Last years Cup winner had to win 3 game 7's. I wonder if there is an asterisk on the Cup for Boston stating that they had to win 3 game 7's. So therefore their Cup win isn't as good as the rest of the Cup winners?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 16 @ 11:04 PM ET
That's the problem with today's youth...accuracy doesn't matter, just get in the neighborhood.
- tangent_man



On another note, I treated myself to some Blazing Saddles last night. (frank)in hilarious
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