I above suggested what I'd do. Moving up is only if the price is not high.
- ob18

Even if the price isn't too steep, I don't really see what the Flyers have to make a fair offer. Bob to a team that needs a goaltender maybe, but even that's a stretch IMO.

Haven't heard him considered top 5 or 7. Top 12 sure.

One who won't likely head to the KHL is Alex Galchenyuk he maybe of Belarus decent but he was born in Wisconsin and played minor hockey in Chicago before going to the OHL.
- ob18

i heard russian, but that may be a generic term

Even if the price isn't too steep, I don't really see what the Flyers have to make a fair offer. Bob to a team that needs a goaltender maybe, but even that's a stretch IMO.
- Baxter27

With the spot he'll go teams probably won't need or even ask for BOB.

Haven't heard him considered top 5 or 7. Top 12 sure.

One who won't likely head to the KHL is Alex Galchenyuk he maybe of Belarus decent but he was born in Wisconsin and played minor hockey in Chicago before going to the OHL.
- ob18

I read something a few days ago suggesting he could be a fast riser. Forget where I read it though.

I could also have gotten one article confused with another. I got a sick kid on my lap, so...the brain's a bit scrambled.

Even if the price isn't too steep, I don't really see what the Flyers have to make a fair offer. Bob to a team that needs a goaltender maybe, but even that's a stretch IMO.
- Baxter27

unfortunately bob doesn't have that kind of value for two reasons: 1. trading for him would do the flyers a favor, he's buried behind bryz. 2. he was awful in the playoffs last year and didn't do much of anything to redeem himself this year.... that may actually be 4 reasons lol

Even if the price isn't too steep, I don't really see what the Flyers have to make a fair offer. Bob to a team that needs a goaltender maybe, but even that's a stretch IMO.
- Baxter27

I think, at best, Bob might get them to 16 or 17, if they add him to the 20th pick. Is it worth Bob to jump up 4 spots?

It takes a double deflection to beat Lundqvist, and he still got a piece of it.

I read something a few days ago suggesting he could be a fast riser. Forget where I read it though.

I could also have gotten one article confused with another. I got a sick kid on my lap, so...the brain's a bit scrambled.
- Jsaquella

You could be right, all it takes is one team.

I remember being in Columbus for the draft in 2007 and was shocked the Kings took Thomas Hickey #4 overall when if I remember correctly was considered a late 1st probably a 2nd round pick.

So far Hickey hasn't played 1 NHL game.

I'm no 2012 draft class expert, but from my understanding, I think trading up outside of the top 10 is more of a risk than a "sure thing", for lack of a better phrase. I say this because, like I said before, I've heard that this year's class is so deep that- for example- a number 20 pick could be just as good as a number 12, or even better.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the class is just so murky with good talent that trading up in the first round this year may not be as good of a move as it normally is....

unfortunately bob doesn't have that kind of value for two reasons: 1. trading for him would do the flyers a favor, he's buried behind bryz. 2. he was awful in the playoffs last year and didn't do much of anything to redeem himself this year.... that may actually be 4 reasons lol
- flyerscup2011

The bigger reason is the goalie market. If Thomas and Luongo are on the move this summer, they're more attractive to a team that wants a starter. If I'm Tampa, I'd want Luongo long before Bob.

Secondly, teams looking for a solid backup could have any one of five or six quality back-ups(Biron, Mason, Clemmenson, Hedberg off the top of my head) and if they want a youngster to maybe battle for a job, there might be guys like Bernier available.

You could be right, all it takes is one team.

I remember being in Columbus for the draft in 2007 and was shocked the Kings took Thomas Hickey #4 overall when if I remember correctly was considered a late 1st probably a 2nd round pick.

So far Hickey hasn't played 1 NHL game.
- ob18

Yeah, I remember the Hickey pick. TSN guys were incredulous.

I think, at best, Bob might get them to 16 or 17, if they add him to the 20th pick. Is it worth Bob to jump up 4 spots?
- Jsaquella

I think it would be worth it, you do have to take into account that bob's salary comes off the cap and we could easily get a backup for around 800k. sounds win win to me

unfortunately bob doesn't have that kind of value for two reasons: 1. trading for him would do the flyers a favor, he's buried behind bryz. 2. he was awful in the playoffs last year and didn't do much of anything to redeem himself this year.... that may actually be 4 reasons lol
- flyerscup2011

I don't think it's doing the Flyers a favor. If the Flyers want to move Bobrovsky, it won't be that hard to do.

I'm no 2012 draft class expert, but from my understanding, I think trading up outside of the top 10 is more of a risk than a "sure thing", for lack of a better phrase. I say this because, like I said before, I've heard that this year's class is so deep that- for example- a number 20 pick could be just as good as a number 12, or even better.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the class is just so murky with good talent that trading up in the first round this year may not be as good of a move as it normally is....
- Giroux_Is_God

One school of thought is that there's good depth and the guy you get at 10 might be no better than a guy you get at 20. There will be several good defensemen on the board at 20, when the Flyers pick.

The other school of thought is that there's a drop off around 12-14 that is fairly significant. I usually defer to OB18 because he's deep into the prospects.

Yeah, I remember the Hickey pick. TSN guys were incredulous.
- Jsaquella

I was laughing.

I like some players in the draft but I'm not likely to even try and move up. It's either stay put or move back land more picks (hopefully it could include a 1st rounder in 2013)

I think, at best, Bob might get them to 16 or 17, if they add him to the 20th pick. Is it worth Bob to jump up 4 spots?
- Jsaquella

Depends who's on the board but likely not. That's my point though. The Flyers lack assets to move up with a combination that involves their own 1st round pick.

If they're going to get into the top 10 I think it will have to be by dealing one of their promising young forwards which I think is too much of a gamble.

I think it would be worth it, you do have to take into account that bob's salary comes off the cap and we could easily get a backup for around 800k. sounds win win to me
- flyerscup2011

If there's a bonus cushion, Bob's cap hit will be around $900K.

I'd rather get a second rounder or prospect for Bob than just shuffle him off to get a guy at 16 that would likely be there at 20.

I don't think it's doing the Flyers a favor. If the Flyers want to move Bobrovsky, it won't be that hard to do.
- MJL

how is it not? bob's cap hit is 1.75mm and he plays like 20 games a year. we need cap space, especially in the summer.

Depends who's on the board but likely not. That's my point though. The Flyers lack assets to move up with a combination that involves their own 1st round pick.

If they're going to get into the top 10 I think it will have to be by dealing one of their promising young forwards which I think is too much of a gamble.
- Baxter27

Agreed. I wouldn't move a roster forward to move up unless it's a top 3 pick.

If there's a bonus cushion, Bob's cap hit will be around $900K.

I'd rather get a second rounder or prospect for Bob than just shuffle him off to get a guy at 16 that would likely be there at 20.
- Jsaquella

is the bonus cushion likely?

well if the guy would be there at 20 there's no reason to move up

Agreed. I wouldn't move a roster forward to move up unless it's a top 3 pick.
- Jsaquella

another avenue (which i would hate) is to trade draft picks. like this year's first and 2nd or this year's first and next year's first. but that would be foolish IMO

another avenue (which i would hate) is to trade draft picks. like this year's first and 2nd or this year's first and next year's first. but that would be foolish IMO
- flyerscup2011

If anything, I'd be open to trading out of this year's first round to get additional picks next year, when the class is considered better.

I actually got the idea from somebody on twitter, and started looking at the draft order....

If anything, I'd be open to trading out of this year's first round to get additional picks next year, when the class is considered better.

I actually got the idea from somebody on twitter, and started looking at the draft order....
- Jsaquella

is the bonus cushion likely?

well if the guy would be there at 20 there's no reason to move up
- flyerscup2011

The bonus cushion seems likely, and if Eklund is right, the amnesty buyout is still possible

- ob18

I figured kicking around draft ideas was better than page after page of female doging