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SABRES 89
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May 16 @ 12:06 AM ET
Nice try.


Myers and Johnson are similar though.

- dadeadhead

Your high...not even close. Myers is a better player better check again.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 12:13 AM ET
Your high...not even close. Myers is a better player better check again.
- SABRES 89




Myers 108 point in the last 3 yrs


Johnson 116 in the last 3 yrs




I've seen the game footage of both and they're both a mess in their own end.


I've seen Myers do snow angel's more that any supposed future Norris trophy candidate ever.

Sekera < Johnson = Myers
rcostel77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 01.25.2010

May 16 @ 12:16 AM ET
Supposedly Columbus does not want to draft a Russian this year; with the busts of Zherdev and Filatov, they cannot afford to take one with the second overall pick (even if the Russians in this year's draft have been playing in North America for years).

They also have a lot of needs, including an offensive defenseman and a play making center for Nash. Making a trade with the Blue Jackets for the second overall pick will let the Sabres get the center in Alex Galchenyuk.

To BUF: 2012 1st round pick (2nd overall)
To CBS: 2012 1st round pick (12th overall), 2nd round pick (42nd overall), Derek Roy, Andrej Sekera

If another pick or prospect is needed, I'd throw in 2013 1st round pick; the UFA class is stronger next year and if the Sabres have a successful year (as expected), that pick will be in the late teens or twenties.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 12:18 AM ET
Supposedly Columbus does not want to draft a Russian this year; with the busts of Zherdev and Filatov, they cannot afford to take one with the second overall pick (even if the Russians in this year's draft have been playing in North America for years).

They also have a lot of needs, including an offensive defenseman and a play making center for Nash. Making a trade with the Blue Jackets for the second overall pick will let the Sabres get the center in Alex Galchenyuk.

To BUF: 2012 1st round pick (2nd overall)
To CBS: 2012 1st round pick (12th overall), 2nd round pick (42nd overall), Derek Roy, Andrej Sekera

If another pick or prospect is needed, I'd throw in 2013 1st round pick; the UFA class is stronger next year and if the Sabres have a successful year (as expected), that pick will be in the late teens or twenties.

- rcostel77



Good for Columbus Galchenyuk was born in Wisconsin then.


After the Carter experiment in Columbus, you really think they'd be interested in Roy?



I don't.




Deadmau55
Los Angeles Kings
Location: CA
Joined: 06.07.2011

May 16 @ 12:19 AM ET
Myers 108 point in the last 3 yrs


Johnson 116 in the last 3 yrs




I've seen the game footage of both and they're both a mess in their own end.


I've seen Myers do snow angel's more that any supposed future Norris trophy candidate ever.

Sekera < Johnson = Myers

- dadeadhead



Slava Voynov > JMFJ


Kings won that trade in more ways then one.
SABRES 89
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Buffalo Sabres
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May 16 @ 12:21 AM ET
Myers 108 point in the last 3 yrs


Johnson 116 in the last 3 yrs




I've seen the game footage of both and they're both a mess in their own end.


I've seen Myers do snow angel's more that any supposed future Norris trophy candidate ever.

Sekera < Johnson = Myers

- dadeadhead

Johnson is average at best,
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 12:24 AM ET
Johnson is average at best,
- SABRES 89




And Myers is a superstar?


Yep thats what I thought, they're both average at best as of right now.



Edit: Johnson hits and blocked shots over the last three years 335 and 348

Myers 276 and 305.


They are very similar players as of now.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 16 @ 12:35 AM ET
Supposedly Columbus does not want to draft a Russian this year; with the busts of Zherdev and Filatov, they cannot afford to take one with the second overall pick (even if the Russians in this year's draft have been playing in North America for years).

They also have a lot of needs, including an offensive defenseman and a play making center for Nash. Making a trade with the Blue Jackets for the second overall pick will let the Sabres get the center in Alex Galchenyuk.

To BUF: 2012 1st round pick (2nd overall)
To CBS: 2012 1st round pick (12th overall), 2nd round pick (42nd overall), Derek Roy, Andrej Sekera

If another pick or prospect is needed, I'd throw in 2013 1st round pick; the UFA class is stronger next year and if the Sabres have a successful year (as expected), that pick will be in the late teens or twenties.

- rcostel77


Nash won't be in Columbus at the start of the season. So that center thing doesn't even matter that much. He wants a trade, they managed to F it up at the deadline. I doubt he's going to go into camp very happy if it's still in the state of Ohio.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 12:38 AM ET
Nash won't be in Columbus at the start of the season. So that center thing doesn't even matter that much. He wants a trade, they managed to F it up at the deadline. I doubt he's going to go into camp very happy if it's still in the state of Ohio.
- HonkFortheGoose



All they had/have to do was/is fire Howson and I think Nash would stay IMO.
FIREonICE
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Darcys Playground, NY
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 16 @ 12:45 AM ET
Nash won't be in Columbus at the start of the season. So that center thing doesn't even matter that much. He wants a trade, they managed to F it up at the deadline. I doubt he's going to go into camp very happy if it's still in the state of Ohio.
- HonkFortheGoose


i'm thinking a whooper on trade day (since montreal is probably going to screw us and pick galchenyuk at 3 when 4 seemed like a decent place to trade to get him before the new canadiens gm came to be)

i'm thinking something like:

Nash + pick #2 for galchenyuk to buff

vanek, 12# buff, nash #1, buff #2, sekera, defensive prospect not named JGL, Mcnabb, Psysk
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 12:50 AM ET
i'm thinking a whooper on trade day (since montreal is probably going to screw us and pick galchenyuk at 3 when 4 seemed like a decent place to trade to get him before the new canadiens gm came to be)

i'm thinking something like:

Nash + pick #2 for galchenyuk to buff

vanek, 12# buff, nash #1, buff #2, sekera, defensive prospect not named JGL, Mcnabb, Psysk

- FIREonICE




Nash has a NMC and said he won't change his ok list. Unless he's a liar I have to take him at his word.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
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May 16 @ 12:52 AM ET
Nash has a NMC and said he won't change his ok list. Unless he's a liar I have to take him at his word.
- dadeadhead


And since Howson came right out and said that Nash asked for a trade, all he did was lower his trade value. Between that and the cost of his contract, Nash is going to be very difficult for Columbus to trade at this point. The return on him will be considerably lower.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
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May 16 @ 12:54 AM ET
i'm thinking a whooper on trade day (since montreal is probably going to screw us and pick galchenyuk at 3 when 4 seemed like a decent place to trade to get him before the new canadiens gm came to be)

i'm thinking something like:

Nash + pick #2 for galchenyuk to buff

vanek, 12# buff, nash #1, buff #2, sekera, defensive prospect not named JGL, Mcnabb, Psysk

- FIREonICE


Trading Vanek for Nash doesn't make sense for us in a lot of ways. I realize that you have it as an overall package and really the benefit for us would be getting Galchenyuk, but I don't see Columbus trading both Nash and their #2 to the same team.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
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May 16 @ 12:56 AM ET
And since Howson came right out and said that Nash asked for a trade, all he did was lower his trade value. Between that and the cost of his contract, Nash is going to be very difficult for Columbus to trade at this point. The return on him will be considerably lower.
- HonkFortheGoose



As much as Columbus is anti-russian, I see them trying to pull a Burkie and the Sedins and try to get Yakupov and Galchenyuk.

Using Nash to get Toronto's #5 then fliping it around to where Edmonton ends up with Murray and them getting the 2 from Sarnia.



Just food for thought.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
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May 16 @ 1:04 AM ET
As much as Columbus is anti-russian, I see them trying to pull a Burkie and the Sedins and try to get Yakupov and Galchenyuk.

Using Nash to get Toronto's #5 then fliping it around to where Edmonton ends up with Murray and them getting the 2 from Sarnia.



Just food for thought.

- dadeadhead


That is interesting. But with the history that Columbus has had with Russians, do you really think this is something they would actually want to do? I just can't see it. It's an interesting prospect, but I don't know that it's something we'd see them even attempt to do.
HAMgerber
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 16 @ 1:04 AM ET
BEFORE I EVEN READ THE ARTICLE I CHECKED OUT BRAD RICHARDS STATS


why the hell did he even make it to the 3rd round of his draft year???????? the guy was 18 and had 115 pts in 68gp in the QMJHL ....did he have issues or something? AND HE WAS A CENTER like how the heck does that slip all the way into the 3rd round for ANY gm...those numbers are EASILY 1st or 2nd round talent. WTFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!
HAMgerber
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 16 @ 1:08 AM ET
Myers, Hodgson, Roy, and first rounder for Claude Giroux
- pker2theend



giroux is not worth that youre high
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 16 @ 1:10 AM ET
BEFORE I EVEN READ THE ARTICLE I CHECKED OUT BRAD RICHARDS STATS


why the hell did he even make it to the 3rd round of his draft year???????? the guy was 18 and had 115 pts in 68gp in the QMJHL ....did he have issues or something? AND HE WAS A CENTER like how the heck does that slip all the way into the 3rd round for ANY gm...those numbers are EASILY 1st or 2nd round talent. WTFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!

- HAMgerber


Chill bro....no need to get all hopped up over something that we haven't been discussing in the first place.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 1:14 AM ET
That is interesting. But with the history that Columbus has had with Russians, do you really think this is something they would actually want to do? I just can't see it. It's an interesting prospect, but I don't know that it's something we'd see them even attempt to do.
- HonkFortheGoose



The 5th overall and Kadri plus to Columbus for Nash

The 5th and Mason plus to the Islanders for Dipietro and the 4th

The 4th and Brassard to Montreal for the 3rd.

The 3rd and Johansen to Edmonton for the 1st.



Toronto gets Nash

The Islanders still get Forsberg, get DiPietro off their books

Montreal get their French center along with still getting Grigorenko

Edmonton gets their future #2 center in Johansen and are able to draft Murray.

Columbus gets Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Kadri, and DiPietro.

dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 1:16 AM ET
BEFORE I EVEN READ THE ARTICLE I CHECKED OUT BRAD RICHARDS STATS


why the hell did he even make it to the 3rd round of his draft year???????? the guy was 18 and had 115 pts in 68gp in the QMJHL ....did he have issues or something? AND HE WAS A CENTER like how the heck does that slip all the way into the 3rd round for ANY gm...those numbers are EASILY 1st or 2nd round talent. WTFFFFFFFFF !!!!!!!!

- HAMgerber




He's only like 5-11 for one and players in the Q put up 100 point seasons like crackheads suck d......


You get the point.
HAMgerber
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 16 @ 1:17 AM ET
Supposedly Columbus does not want to draft a Russian this year; with the busts of Zherdev and Filatov, they cannot afford to take one with the second overall pick (even if the Russians in this year's draft have been playing in North America for years).

They also have a lot of needs, including an offensive defenseman and a play making center for Nash. Making a trade with the Blue Jackets for the second overall pick will let the Sabres get the center in Alex Galchenyuk.

To BUF: 2012 1st round pick (2nd overall)
To CBS: 2012 1st round pick (12th overall), 2nd round pick (42nd overall), Derek Roy, Andrej Sekera

If another pick or prospect is needed, I'd throw in 2013 1st round pick; the UFA class is stronger next year and if the Sabres have a successful year (as expected), that pick will be in the late teens or twenties.

- rcostel77




columbus wants NOW players not a UFA in a year (roy ) and a mediocre defenseman. lets not kid ourselves...we all know sekera is worthless hes a #4 defenseman at best and nothing more. this guy has been a healthy scratch multiple times over the past two years. a lot of you guys with these trade proposals are so ignorant
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 16 @ 1:18 AM ET
The 5th overall and Kadri plus to Columbus for Nash

The 5th and Mason plus to the Islanders for Dipietro and the 4th

The 4th and Brassard to Montreal for the 3rd.

The 3rd and Johansen to Edmonton for the 1st.



Toronto gets Nash

The Islanders still get Forsberg, get DiPietro off their books

Montreal get their French center along with still getting Grigorenko

Edmonton gets their future #2 center in Johansen and are able to draft Murray.

Columbus gets Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Kadri, and DiPietro.

- dadeadhead



Wow. You put a lot of thought into that. But that's an awful lot of movement for 1 team. Especially when the GM of that team has already proven he's too inept to pull anything of that caliber off.
HAMgerber
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 16 @ 1:18 AM ET
He's only like 5-11 for one and players in the Q put up 100 point seasons like crackheads suck d......


You get the point.

- dadeadhead



i understand the q stigma but to go against your point, hockeydb.com has him listed at 6'1 and 200 lbs. not bad at all
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 1:20 AM ET
Wow. You put a lot of thought into that. But that's an awful lot of movement for 1 team. Especially when the GM of that team has already proven he's too inept to pull anything of that caliber off.
- HonkFortheGoose




In 99 Burke at one point or another held every pick 1-5.



Plus I figured Ek can put BS up and gets paid for it, why can't I?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 16 @ 1:21 AM ET
He's only like 5-11 for one and players in the Q put up 100 point seasons like crackheads suck d......


You get the point.

- dadeadhead


Catenacci has put up 70+ points in his first 2 years in the OHL. I'm sure if he was in the Q, it would easily be over 100. He was drafted in the 3rd round, so sounds like Richards went right where I would have expected him to.
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