abware
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Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
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It all depends as Yserman has said the players are being chosen to showcase themselves at this and the next worlds. Price was said to be a bit injured, Ward, Smith, Quick, Schnieder,Holtby and maybe Dubnyk will all be in the Mix with Louongo and Fleury. Next season and next worlds will go along way to telling the Goaltending for the OLY team. But to back out of a tourney w/o a good reason has now been told to the NHLPA will be unacceptable and that comes from Hockey Canada and Yserman.
Right now if your looking at the main sourses ir's Quick and Smith with Ward and Dubey having the Auditions as per say. A lot can change in a year but it's goes like that. - longbottom
Psst Quick and Schneider are American |
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longbottom
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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No matter what happens, you guys still need a goalie. Im not saying to get Luongo (cause honestly its not worth it), but you guys will always be on the outside looking in without a backstop.
Heres what Ive been thinking...
If Luongo goes to Panthers, Oil should try to deal for Markstrom.
Other options are Lindback in Nashville, Greiss in SJ or Enroth in Buffalo.
Give Vokoun a try out.
Id stay away from Neuvirth and Bernier. - aecliptic
Now with your infinate knowledge of the goalies you just mentioned check their records and their stats on teams with very fair to good defenses. Then compare them to Dubnyk with our defense(which I have done on here several times and won't again).
Thanks for your input but Dubnyks is showing better than who you mentioned and so I for one hope the Oilers stick to Dubnyk rather than follow some fans advise from where ever you are from. |
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aecliptic
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Location: Stacheville Joined: 06.17.2010
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Now with your infinate knowledge of the goalies you just mentioned check their records and their stats on teams with very fair to good defenses. Then compare them to Dubnyk with our defense(which I have done on here several times and won't again).
Thanks for your input but Dubnyks is showing better than who you mentioned and so I for one hope the Oilers stick to Dubnyk rather than follow some fans advise from where ever you are from. - longbottom
Yea because Im gonna text Lowe and convince him to make a move. |
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abware
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
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No matter what happens, you guys still need a goalie. Im not saying to get Luongo (cause honestly its not worth it), but you guys will always be on the outside looking in without a backstop.
Heres what Ive been thinking...
If Luongo goes to Panthers, Oil should try to deal for Markstrom.
Other options are Lindback in Nashville, Greiss in SJ or Enroth in Buffalo.
Give Vokoun a try out.
Id stay away from Neuvirth and Bernier. - aecliptic
Dubnyks numbers are comparable to any of the goalies you mentioned in front of worse defense. |
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longbottom
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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Psst Quick and Schneider are American - abware
OK that I didn't know I assumed they were Canadian.
WOW funny thing is I just checked the top ten Goalies from last year and 3 of them are Canadian: Elliot, Smith and Giguere. Hmmmmm says something doesn't it. |
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Centacre
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 08.01.2007
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Strome is by no means a sure star and not in the same class as Yakupov. If the team that receives the best player wins the trade, the Oilers clearly lose. Stop pushing the Strome rumor. He's just not that good. |
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longbottom
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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Yea because Im gonna text Lowe and convince him to make a move. - aecliptic
Well it just shows how much you know Tambellinni is the G.M. here also.
Edit : according to Oil Change the show following the Oiler's ( I used that as my reason to know) there is a brain trust here in Edmonton with Lowe having a voice as well as Macgregor but the final say is Tambellinni. That also could be why things move a little slower here. |
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abware
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25 Joined: 01.26.2010
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Yea because Im gonna text Lowe and convince him to make a move. - aecliptic
Cool, ask him to sign a couple D-men, Jackman and Schultz would be fine for now. Thanks |
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Scooby_Doo
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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It all depends as Yserman has said the players are being chosen to showcase themselves at this and the next worlds. Price was said to be a bit injured, Ward, Smith, Quick, Schnieder,Holtby and maybe Dubnyk will all be in the Mix with Louongo and Fleury. Next season and next worlds will go along way to telling the Goaltending for the OLY team. But to back out of a tourney w/o a good reason has now been told to the NHLPA will be unacceptable and that comes from Hockey Canada and Yserman.
Right now if your looking at the main sourses ir's Quick and Smith with Ward and Dubey having the Auditions as per say. A lot can change in a year but it's goes like that. - longbottom
Dubnyk and Ward will be no where near Sochi... although I could see Dubnyk playing in the KHL in a few years.
As mentioned, Quick and Schneider are American, and that should have been really obvious if you watch the NHL.
At the moment, Canada's goalies are looking like.
Luongo
Price
Smith |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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We are overpaying - pker2theend
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How about Luongo + 26th overall for 1st overall + Eberle. - Scooby_Doo
Maybe if I shat out a giraffe tonight. |
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Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB Joined: 01.27.2010
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Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.10.2009
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Dubnyk and Ward will be no where near Sochi... although I could see Dubnyk playing in the KHL in a few years.
As mentioned, Quick and Schneider are American, and that should have been really obvious if you watch the NHL.
At the moment, Canada's goalies are looking like.
Luongo
Price
Smith - Scooby_Doo
Yeah who needs goalies that have won stanley cups. They're useless losers. Instead lets take the perennial cougher Chokerto Luongo....... No thanks.
Price
Fleury
Ward
I want cup winners on my Olympic team and even though Fleury crap the bed this year, he is still there because he is a proven winner. We won in Vancouver in spite of Luongo, not because of him.
Judging goalies based on this years playoffs alone is stupid. If Smith plays to this level right up until 2014, than he can be on the radar. |
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- Jack-artist
WTF
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OilerFanFromBC
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 01.23.2012
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It's going to be interesting to see what happens from now till the draft. Yakupov is going to be a for sure 1st line winger but with Hall and Eberle already on the Oil, there's not much room. Islanders and Canadiens are probably the top teams in the run at the first pick if both are trying to get it at all. Richard mentioned a few times that the most likely trade involving the Habs would be for them to trade the 3rd overall and Subban for Yakupov. To me, it seems a little one sided but considering that fact that the Oilers are going to be really aggressive at trying to get the most of what they can from whatever team wants the pick, it's seems pretty close to being realistic. I would think the Oilers would have to throw in a second asset though such as Marincin and maybe a late round pick. Imagine if the Oilers got Subban, Murray AND Schultz in the same week! If no trade is suitable though, the best option would be to draft Yakupov and let him develop until a trade is in place. They could probably do what Gillis did with Hodgson by playing him more giving him more points to increase his trade value. Oilers need Murray more than Yakupov but he would just be a huge plus to their explosive offence. The Oilers would probably be able to score 10+ on Chicago! |
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Rich, love your blogs, but before I blow my brains out, bob stauffer clarified this on his show and replayed the interview several times to show Kevin lowe said "Ryan Murphy is A TOP PLAYER". Not the top player.. - Zinner
David Staples story might disagree. Keep in mind Stauffer works for the Oilers and part of his job is to put out fires. |
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longbottom
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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Dubnyk and Ward will be no where near Sochi... although I could see Dubnyk playing in the KHL in a few years.
As mentioned, Quick and Schneider are American, and that should have been really obvious if you watch the NHL.
At the moment, Canada's goalies are looking like.
Luongo
Price
Smith - Scooby_Doo
First off It's obvious that Quick and Schnieder are American? Really thats news to me as I watch the NHL but I don't check Birth cirtificates. My time is much to precious than to diddle around doing that and I am semi retired so I have a-lot of free time.
Dubey in the KHL is obviously a comment meant to get a reaction.
Here is your reaction: The Edmonton Oilers seem to think Dubey is their guy so did the Brain Trust of the Canadian Hockey federation to invite the guy for the Third straight worlds to get expierence and exposure. This year Dubey has played 2 games. As ar as Lou goes if and that a big IF he gets an Invite to the Oly Team It will be behind Ward, Smith, Price and Fleury Unless he proves something on te ice like Winning. Yes he has a Gold medal from the Last Olympics but he has declined in every big game since. Hell even the Canucks want to trade the guy how good can he actually be.
There is your reaction By the way the Oilers don't want his contract so pitch your ware someplace else boy yo it's a lost cause here. |
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Well it just shows how much you know Tambellinni is the G.M. here also.
Edit : according to Oil Change the show following the Oiler's ( I used that as my reason to know) there is a brain trust here in Edmonton with Lowe having a voice as well as Macgregor but the final say is Tambellinni. That also could be why things move a little slower here. - longbottom
What?
Lowe has the final say on everything. EVERYTHING. Right down to how high the skirts Octane are going to wear. |
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Strome is by no means a sure star and not in the same class as Yakupov. If the team that receives the best player wins the trade, the Oilers clearly lose. Stop pushing the Strome rumor. He's just not that good. - Centacre
Yes, because his play in Junior this year says everything about how the next 20 years will go.
BTW, Strome got 30 goals in about 42 games? I don't have the stat in front of me, but I do know he was scoring goals (not just points...goals) at about a .75 clip, which is ridiculous. Same pace, approximately, as Yakupov. |
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It's going to be interesting to see what happens from now till the draft. Yakupov is going to be a for sure 1st line winger but with Hall and Eberle already on the Oil, there's not much room. Islanders and Canadiens are probably the top teams in the run at the first pick if both are trying to get it at all. Richard mentioned a few times that the most likely trade involving the Habs would be for them to trade the 3rd overall and Subban for Yakupov. To me, it seems a little one sided but considering that fact that the Oilers are going to be really aggressive at trying to get the most of what they can from whatever team wants the pick, it's seems pretty close to being realistic. I would think the Oilers would have to throw in a second asset though such as Marincin and maybe a late round pick. Imagine if the Oilers got Subban, Murray AND Schultz in the same week! If no trade is suitable though, the best option would be to draft Yakupov and let him develop until a trade is in place. They could probably do what Gillis did with Hodgson by playing him more giving him more points to increase his trade value. Oilers need Murray more than Yakupov but he would just be a huge plus to their explosive offence. The Oilers would probably be able to score 10+ on Chicago! - OilerFanFromBC
What the oilers should do cause they do desperately need a franchise d-man since they are pretty thin back there is figure out who the top 3 or 4 d prospects are in the NHL and decide if they are better than Murray or not. If they are not than just draft Murray, if they are, than draft Nail and trade him for the better d-man cause normally fowards carry more trade value than a dman.
Either way you look at it I think the Oil need to start focusing on elite defense. Another talented forward on the small side isn't really going to make that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. You guys already have enough of that.
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longbottom
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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Yeah who needs goalies that have won stanley cups. They're useless losers. Instead lets take the perennial cougher Chokerto Luongo....... No thanks.
Price
Fleury
Ward
I want cup winners on my Olympic team and even though Fleury crap the bed this year, he is still there because he is a proven winner. We won in Vancouver in spite of Luongo, not because of him.
Judging goalies based on this years playoffs alone is stupid. If Smith plays to this level right up until 2014, than he can be on the radar. - Sheppy99
You are correct sir. I said that he is on the Olympic team radar right now because they are watching all the canadian goalies until the final camp invites. and to get invites they have to show they can win and Smith despite tinight is still winning. Ward is over there because of his winning background. But each Player has to show some respect to the Canadian Hockey federation also. After last years when a bunch of big name players turned down the invites to the worlds there was a big stink about it and Yserman has told the NHLPA there will be no excuses anymore as they still have an obligation to sell the game internationally: IE the Worlds and the Olympics. |
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Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 07.10.2009
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First off It's obvious that Quick and Schnieder are American? Really thats news to me as I watch the NHL but I don't check Birth cirtificates. My time is much to precious than to diddle around doing that and I am semi retired so I have a-lot of free time.
Dubey in the KHL is obviously a comment meant to get a reaction.
Here is your reaction: The Edmonton Oilers seem to think Dubey is their guy so did the Brain Trust of the Canadian Hockey federation to invite the guy for the Third straight worlds to get expierence and exposure. This year Dubey has played 2 games. As ar as Lou goes if and that a big IF he gets an Invite to the Oly Team It will be behind Ward, Smith, Price and Fleury Unless he proves something on te ice like Winning. Yes he has a Gold medal from the Last Olympics but he has declined in every big game since. Hell even the Canucks want to trade the guy how good can he actually be.
There is your reaction By the way the Oilers don't want his contract so pitch your ware someplace else boy yo it's a lost cause here. - longbottom
Finding a Canuck fan that doesn't overvalue Luongo is like finding a banker who doesn't believe in capitalism...... not gonna happen |
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What the oilers should do cause they do desperately need a franchise d-man since they are pretty thin back there is figure out who the top 3 or 4 d prospects are in the NHL and decide if they are better than Murray or not. If they are not than just draft Murray, if they are, than draft Nail and trade him for the better d-man cause normally fowards carry more trade value than a dman.
Either way you look at it I think the Oil need to start focusing on elite defense. Another talented forward on the small side isn't really going to make that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. You guys already have enough of that. - HankMoody89
You touch on a key point. Klefbom and Musil are projected to be 3/4 guys. I think Smid is a 3/4 guy. Petry could turn into a 1/2 guy but is more likely a 3/4. Fedun has the brains to be a 3/4 guy. Gernat and Marincin are wild-cards...who knows where they end up on the depth chart. Teubert who was brought in is a 5/6 at best.
Lots of depth here, but no clear top pairing guys. It's an issue the Oil will need to deal with before they move forward. |
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Jack-artist
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Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB Joined: 01.27.2010
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Yeah who needs goalies that have won stanley cups. They're useless losers. Instead lets take the perennial cougher Chokerto Luongo....... No thanks.
Price
Fleury
Ward
I want cup winners on my Olympic team and even though Fleury crap the bed this year, he is still there because he is a proven winner. We won in Vancouver in spite of Luongo, not because of him.
Judging goalies based on this years playoffs alone is stupid. If Smith plays to this level right up until 2014, than he can be on the radar. - Sheppy99
Fleury has crapped the bed three years in a row in the playoffs. SV% in the 800's. |
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longbottom
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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What?
Lowe has the final say on everything. EVERYTHING. Right down to how high the skirts Octane are going to wear. - Maxbone
On Matters concerning trades, picks he has said several times in the Past he has a voice and an opinion but the final say is the G.M.'s unless it has Financial implications that have to be brought to Katz. So in other words Lowe is president of Hockey operations and Tambellinni as G.M. runs the day to day operations of the club. It's confuseing but Katz wanted a differnt guy in charge of the Day to Day stuff. Hence Lowe being moved out of the G.M.'s chair. |
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