the fact that this is even possible is insane....

http://capgeek.com/cap-ca...inors=924&promote-button=


this being with the trade of malone, ohlund, MAB, and garon to cbj for nash.

2 2nds to VAN for luongo

and a 3rd for the rights to weber.

say hello to the stanley cup next yr if we pulled that off.

Didn't he lead the Canadian Jr. team to a Gold Medal??
- Dedshark

World Jr's...as a Canadian, we outclass most teams in the tourney. Usually only a three team race for gold, and you get to play with ALLSTARS. Not quite the same honestly. There were many years that we almost won the gold by default. Not so much now, but still not much of a tourney.

I wouldnt even consider Staal for JT straight up haha. If moved, wont be to a division rival!
- taleisyreXIII

This is a good one.

Lets just say Staal will not be traded this year, unless he really doesnt want to play for the Pens and from what we hear, that is not the case. He will not be traded for "useless to the Pens" players like Gagner, Hemsky, Armstrong or Kadri. Shero would rather swallow the risk of him leaving at UFA time then trade him at any point for players like that.
- nelson911

With respect to the useless to the Pens players named Gagner, Hemsky, Armstrong and Kadri, the Penguins would be thrilled to be left with one of those intead of Staal walking away at the end of next season with the Penguins getting nothing in return. Something is always better than nothing.

If Staal is available. Burke needs to work the phones hard for this one. Here is your big #1 centerman.
- acresd

For 1 year

This is a good one.
- robin_steele264

Yea im still trying to get my head around that one. Cause I obviously wouldnt do that trade either lmao.

Long time reader, decided to finally post.

Thoughts, if Staal is available, you get him. It shouldn't take too much as Staal will be a UFA after this year. I believe a good solid offer would be

Kulemin, Connolly, and Blacker.

Kulemin is a long time friend of Malkin from their Russian hockey days. They played together and had great chemistry. In Kulemin you get a winger for Malkin that will score and is extremely defensive.

Connolly is a salary dump as the Leafs take on Staals salary. Connolly can play good third line minutes and will be off the books at the end of the year.

Blacker is the key to the deal. In Blacker, Pitts gets a solid young defensive Dman to add to their system who should be ready for the NHL this year or next.

Second trade, I would go after Luongo. Great number one goalie with a huge upside.

Trade, Schenn, Armstrong, and 2012 2nd round pick.

Schenn, Van gets a young defensive d with lots of upside if coached.

Armstrong, once again, getting rid of salary, but if healthy, would add grit to the third line. Will be off the books by the end of the year.

The pick is a high second rounder which could pay big dividends. Van has to know they won't get much more than this.

Lineup for next season.

Kessel - J. Staal - Lupul
Kadri - Grabo - Mac
D'Amigo - Bozak - Lombardi
Crabb - Zigomanis - Brown

Phaneuf - Gunner
Liles - Holzer
Gardiner - Franson

Luongo
Reimer

Subs : Rosehill,

Get rid of Komisarek and Steckel to whoever will take them. Komi will go to a cap floor team as his hit is 4.5 but will be making 3.5.
- ILoveLamp

Why would Pittsburgh want Connolly, especially with his concussion history and his salary? Why would Pittsburgh want Kulemin, who fell from 30 goals to 7 goals and 28 points? Why would Pittsburgh want another defensive prospect when we have Morrow, Harrington, and like three others?

Trade makes all the sense for Toronto and NO SENSE for Pittsburgh.

With respect to the useless to the Pens players named Gagner, Hemsky, Armstrong and Kadri, the Penguins would be thrilled to be left with one of those intead of Staal walking away at the end of next season with the Penguins getting nothing in return. Something is always better than nothing.
- Maxbone

You really need to stop being a blogger. You are nothing more than delusional. You brought up if Staal were signed to a long term deal, you would trade Gagner and PVM, which is laughable return for one of the best two-way forwards in the game and he would be not a year guy.

Gagner shot his load in two weeks. He is worth a late second round pick if that.

Hemsky - yep, 10 million for 2 years and he doesn't do much anymore. His decline in numbers prove it.

Armstrong - injury prone and is nothing worth a crap now.

Kadri - one a lousy franchise and couldn't secure a spot?

Please stop Richard. Your ideas are just as ridiculous as me saying Kennedy, Tangradi and Paul Martin for Eberle and your second round pick. Nothing you ever post makes sense.

Why would Pittsburgh want Connolly, especially with his concussion history and his salary? Why would Pittsburgh want Kulemin, who fell from 30 goals to 7 goals and 28 points? Why would Pittsburgh want another defensive prospect when we have Morrow, Harrington, and like three others?

Trade makes all the sense for Toronto and NO SENSE for Pittsburgh.
- Oneonta Penguin

You're right. But here's where you're wrong:

Staal wants out. He doesn't wanna be 3rd fiddle all his life. He'd like to go somewhere he can play in the Top 6 all the time. He isn't going to re-sign in Pittsburgh.

Keeping this in mind, the Pens need to deal him or lose the asset at the end of the season. If the Pens can get Kulemin for him, they win. Big, RFA winger who has one more 30 goal season than Jordan Staal has ever had.

If the Pens are smart, they will make a deal with a conditional clause, that they get a 1st round pick in 2013 if Staal re-signs with the team he's dealt to.

Please stop Richard. Your ideas are just as ridiculous as me saying Kennedy, Tangradi and Paul Martin for Eberle and your second round pick. Nothing you ever post makes sense.
- Oneonta Penguin

God, I'd never do that deal if I'm Edmonton. Give your head a shake.

You're right. But here's where you're wrong:

Staal wants out. He doesn't wanna be 3rd fiddle all his life. He'd like to go somewhere he can play in the Top 6 all the time. He isn't going to re-sign in Pittsburgh.

Keeping this in mind, the Pens need to deal him or lose the asset at the end of the season. If the Pens can get Kulemin for him, they win. Big, RFA winger who has one more 30 goal season than Jordan Staal has ever had.

If the Pens are smart, they will make a deal with a conditional clause, that they get a 1st round pick in 2013 if Staal re-signs with the team he's dealt to.
- Maxbone

Staal won't be 3rd fiddle, Shero knows it, 3 centre model is gone, he'll sign, my prediction is 5 years at 5.2 mil, he re-ups because he loves Pittsburgh and he will be on the second line or 1B whatever you want to call it.

*GM will sacrifice someone to keep Staal if he has to, not Philly style but I can see him going far to get it done

Staal won't be 3rd fiddle, Shero knows it, 3 centre model is gone, he'll sign, my prediction is 5 years at 5.2 mil, he re-ups because he loves Pittsburgh and he will be on the second line or 1B whatever you want to call it.
- nelson911

Hmmm. I don't mind at all the contract you're suggesting...seems right from a money and term perspective. I'll take your word for it that he loves Pittsburgh.

But the 1B thing. K, if Crosby is the #1 center and if Malkin is #2, doesn't that make Staal #3? They aren't going to trade Malkin, and the world would crash into the ocean if they dealt Crosby.

Hmmm. I don't mind at all the contract you're suggesting...seems right from a money and term perspective. I'll take your word for it that he loves Pittsburgh.

But the 1B thing. K, if Crosby is the #1 center and if Malkin is #2, doesn't that make Staal #3? They aren't going to trade Malkin, and the world would crash into the ocean if they dealt Crosby.
- Maxbone

Staal or Malkin will be on either guys wing, its been done, Staal scored 29 on Malkins wing in his rookie year. I prefer Malkin on wing cause he stinks at faceoffs

Staal or Malkin will be on either guys wing, its been done, Staal scored 27 or 29 on Malkins wing in his rookie year. I prefer Malkin on wing cause he stinks at faceoffs
- nelson911

That's logical.

How about Jordan Stall for Sam Gagner?

God, I'd never do that deal if I'm Edmonton. Give your head a shake.
- Maxbone

And I'd never do your utterly ridiculous ideas - Staal for PVR and Gagner or Gagner and a second? Maybe you should give your head a shake. Then again, you are the same person that thinks Omark can land a third and Hemsky should be a first rounder and that was before he signed the extension. Both, laughable as well.

Your Oilers better pick right....

Galchenyuk seems to be better than Yakupov so far on NHL 12

Perfect place to try the Gagner and Staal trade proposition.

How about Jordan Stall for Sam Gagner?
- robin_steele264

If you mean Jordan Staal, I've been saying that all day. Pens fans so completely overrate the value of this guy with only one season left on his contract, it's frightening.

And I'd never do your utterly ridiculous ideas - Staal for PVR and Gagner or Gagner and a second? Maybe you should give your head a shake. Then again, you are the same person that thinks Omark can land a third and Hemsky should be a first rounder and that was before he signed the extension. Both, laughable as well.
- Oneonta Penguin

Omark for a 3rd is possible. A 4th is more likely, though. As I said in my blog.

Hemsky, if dealt at this year's draft, is worth more than a 15-30 overall pick. Anyone who says otherwise has no idea of how Hemsky is seen as a talent in the NHL.

And I'd never do your utterly ridiculous ideas - Staal for PVR and Gagner or Gagner and a second? Maybe you should give your head a shake. Then again, you are the same person that thinks Omark can land a third and Hemsky should be a first rounder and that was before he signed the extension. Both, laughable as well.
- Oneonta Penguin

You seem to be a little extreme in the other direction.

Your Oilers better pick right....

Galchenyuk seems to be better than Yakupov so far on NHL 12

Perfect place to try the Gagner and Staal trade proposition.
- nelson911

Do it up.

You're right. But here's where you're wrong:

Staal wants out. He doesn't wanna be 3rd fiddle all his life. He'd like to go somewhere he can play in the Top 6 all the time. He isn't going to re-sign in Pittsburgh.

Keeping this in mind, the Pens need to deal him or lose the asset at the end of the season. If the Pens can get Kulemin for him, they win. Big, RFA winger who has one more 30 goal season than Jordan Staal has ever had.

If the Pens are smart, they will make a deal with a conditional clause, that they get a 1st round pick in 2013 if Staal re-signs with the team he's dealt to.
- Maxbone

Does he want out? You talk to him?

Why in the hell would Pittsburgh want to deal for an RFA in Kulemin, who was making 2.3 million and would want a significant raise despite a horrid season.

Let me know when Kulemin is up for a major award or scores 30 goals again. He dropped 23 goals in a year. Again dude - Staal scored 25 goals in 62 games. He was on his way to getting that 30-goal season. It's not hard to figure out.

You seem to be a little extreme in the other direction.
- robin_steele264

You have to forgive him. People tend to overrate the players on their favorite team when that team dominates in the playoffs like the Penguins did this season.

Does he want out? You talk to him?

Why in the hell would Pittsburgh want to deal for an RFA in Kulemin, who was making 2.3 million and would want a significant raise despite a horrid season.

Let me know when Kulemin is up for a major award or scores 30 goals again. He dropped 23 goals in a year. Again dude - Staal scored 25 goals in 62 games. He was on his way to getting that 30-goal season. It's not hard to figure out.
- Oneonta Penguin

Kulemin had a bad year. It happens. I'd absolutely take him on my team any day. He's a tank.

You have to forgive him. People tend to overrate the players on their favorite team when that team dominates in the playoffs like the Penguins did this season.
- Maxbone

I dont think Gagner gets you Staal by any means, but theres lots of factors to consider like you have already mentioned... contracts and whatnot.