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stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
Bryz was standing on his head consistently in this series. He was a monster. He was easily the Flyers' best and most consistent player.

Just because he gave up goals doesn't mean he was bad or he wasn't "better" than Brodeur.

The last time Marty was consistently tested was game 1. In games 2-5 there were times when the Flyers would go 15+ minutes without a shot. And what was Bryz doing during those 15 minutes? Keeping the Flyers in it with tremendous play.

Bryz was AT LEAST "equal, and if not better than Brodeur".

- Giroux_Is_God



Meh....not the series I watched.
Marty was not busy for a few reasons and it wasn't just the team in front of him (although they played great).

His rebound control is outstanding (always has been).
His handling of the puck makes him almost like a third defenseman out there. The D can then stand at the blue line and force the Flyers to dump it in. Marty is great at picking up the puck and getting it to the right player.

The puck handling is an intangible that is a big part of his game and makes him a better goalie for it.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 11 @ 11:38 AM ET
How dare you say that someone with a 3.46 GAA and a 0.887 save percentage in the playoffs was anything but amazing
- Oilhab


Those numbers suck anyone can tell you that. However he did face the Pens in the first round which is probably the best offensive team in the league.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

May 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
However, that production may have taken its toll as reports out of Canada say Giroux may need surgery on one or both of his wrists this off-season.

crap. i knew it.

- Don'tForgetTocchet


So did the Penguins.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 11 @ 11:40 AM ET
Those numbers suck anyone can tell you that. However he did face the Pens in the first round which is probably the best offensive team in the league.
- stveshdy


I thought the flyers were the best offensive team in the league.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 11 @ 11:41 AM ET
I thought the flyers were the best offensive team in the league.
- Oilhab

Are you referring to a particular statement, or are you just painting us arrogant with a broad stroke out of bitterness?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 11 @ 11:42 AM ET
I thought the flyers were the best offensive team in the league.
- Oilhab


That would be incorrect. Pittsburgh was the best offensive team.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/te...eType=2&viewName=goalsFor
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:43 AM ET
How dare you say that someone with a 3.46 GAA and a 0.887 save percentage in the playoffs was anything but amazing
- Oilhab


No one here will tell you bryz was great in the playoffs, but he wasnt the reason they lost. Not sure why that's so hard for people to grasp. Must be tough to follow when your teams aren't in the postseason.

deligirl83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: changed my sn -used to be kida, NJ
Joined: 04.18.2012

May 11 @ 11:44 AM ET
Just wanted to say that i loved this post Bill!.
Well done. Let's go Yotes or Kings! EDIT- and CAPS!!!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
However, that production may have taken its toll as reports out of Canada say Giroux may need surgery on one or both of his wrists this off-season.

crap. i knew it.

- Don'tForgetTocchet

Is it me or does G get slashed on the wrists CONSTANTLY....
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
No one here will tell you bryz was great in the playoffs, but he wasnt the reason they lost. Not sure why that's so hard for people to grasp. Must be tough to follow when your teams aren't in the postseason.


- funmaster18

This seems to be your goto argument. Although it has no bearing on the discussion.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
No one here will tell you bryz was great in the playoffs, but he wasnt the reason they lost. Not sure why that's so hard for people to grasp. Must be tough to follow when your teams aren't in the postseason.


- funmaster18

I thought he was great against the Debs...
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
No one here will tell you bryz was great in the playoffs, but he wasnt the reason they lost. Not sure why that's so hard for people to grasp. Must be tough to follow when your teams aren't in the postseason.


- funmaster18


Im not saying he is the reason they lost, but that he was not on par with Brodeur even if Brodeur had an easy series.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:47 AM ET
This seems to be your goto argument. Although it has no bearing on the discussion.
- stormeyAlterEgo


Yes, I must indulge in this conversation that you waited to have until the flyers were eliminated. So nice of you to wait util they were out to tell us how bad our goaltending was.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
Im not saying he is the reason they lost, but that he was not on par with Brodeur even if Brodeur had an easy series.
- Oilhab


Your comment about saying he's anything but amazing seemed pretty trollish to me, but if you want to actually talk about it, we can do that.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 11 @ 11:48 AM ET
Are you referring to a particular statement, or are you just painting us arrogant with a broad stroke out of bitterness?
- BulliesPhan87


At the end of the last series there were flyer fans bragging about how they averaged 5 goals a game and that they won't have to worry about playing against a good goalie as no one was even close to 3 goals a game.

Broduer didn't even have to be average, he just had to be there to stop that high powered offense.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
Yes, I must indulge in this conversation that you waited to have until the flyers were eliminated. So nice of you to wait util they were out to tell us how bad our goaltending was.
- funmaster18



Very well said Fun...
Where are they when the Flyers are rolling but as soon as something Negative happens, the all appear.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
At the end of the last series there were flyer fans bragging about how they averaged 5 goals a game and that they won't have to worry about playing against a good goalie as no one was even close to 3 goals a game.

Broduer didn't even have to be average, he just had to be there to stop that high powered offense.

- Oilhab


Any intelligent fans were not saying that, so I'm not sure why you'd even pay attention to those saying that.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
At the end of the last series there were flyer fans bragging about how they averaged 5 goals a game and that they won't have to worry about playing against a good goalie as no one was even close to 3 goals a game.

Broduer didn't even have to be average, he just had to be there to stop that high powered offense.

- Oilhab

So broad strokes then. Got it.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
At the end of the last series there were flyer fans bragging about how they averaged 5 goals a game and that they won't have to worry about playing against a good goalie as no one was even close to 3 goals a game.

Broduer didn't even have to be average, he just had to be there to stop that high powered offense.

- Oilhab


Actually a lot of Flyers fans were saying the opposite. That they would have to learn to win closer games because the games wont be as wide open as it was against Pittsburgh.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 11 @ 11:50 AM ET
At the end of the last series there were flyer fans bragging about how they averaged 5 goals a game and that they won't have to worry about playing against a good goalie as no one was even close to 3 goals a game.

Broduer didn't even have to be average, he just had to be there to stop that high powered offense.

- Oilhab



The Flyers didn't even give him a chance to be average because they could not sustain any type of offense or forecheck. If you shut that down on any offensive team, the goalie will not be tested.

When the Flyers came close to Marty he fell over like he was shot out of a cannon.
/sarcasm
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
So did the Penguins.
- tangent_man



well timed double hander chop off a faceoff in game 3 or 4... i had a baaaad feeling about it

phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
Actually a lot of Flyers fans were saying the opposite. That they would have to learn to win closer games because the games wont be as wide open as it was against Pittsburgh.
- stveshdy



Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
This seems to be your goto argument. Although it has no bearing on the discussion.
- stormeyAlterEgo



quit trolling, sean.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 11 @ 11:51 AM ET
well timed double hander chop off a faceoff in game 3 or 4... i had a baaaad feeling about it
- Don'tForgetTocchet



I think the player doing it got a penalty on the play, am I right?
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:52 AM ET
So broad strokes then. Got it.
- BulliesPhan87


Duh, we're all the same.
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