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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:08 AM ET
Thanks for the indepth analysis.


- ggunky

As a leafs fan, he's not quite versed in playoff hockey analysis.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 11 @ 11:10 AM ET
Tie game again.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:11 AM ET
Did you watch the series?

Marty wasn't sharp.

Bryz was for the most part, and at times, he was unbelievable.

Bryz kept them in games 2-5.

- Giroux_Is_God

Yes I watched the games. Explain to me how a guy that gave up 11 goals in 135 shots wasn't sharp.
Bryz was at times unbelievable...and at other times...mediocre. To say that he outplayed Broduer is ridiculous....even if he was good at times.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 11 @ 11:12 AM ET
Yes I watched the games. Explain to me how a guy that gave up 11 goals in 135 shots wasn't sharp.
Bryz was at times unbelievable...and at other times...mediocre. To say that he outplayed Broduer is ridiculous....even if he was good at times.

- stormeyAlterEgo

Brodeur wasn't exactly well tested through the series. He spent more time puckhandling than he did goaltending.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
How so? Bryzgalov had to face more shots and greater scoring chances throughout the series.
- stveshdy

and gave up more goals?
Facing more shots and greater chances does not make you a better goalie. If you make the saves then sure.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
If he needs surgery, would it not be selfish to postpone that surgery till after the tourney and possibly risk not being ready for the season....
- RooNosHockey


I'd say it's the opposite -- it's being selfless to a fault when he has a contract negotiation coming up on top of it all. I will never blame a player who wants to play for his country once his NHL obligations are fulfilled.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:15 AM ET
Brodeur wasn't exactly well tested through the series. He spent more time puckhandling than he did goaltending.
- BulliesPhan87

The puckhandling is an asset that shouldn't be ignored.
My point wasn't that Bryz was bad...just that he wasn't better than Broduer.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 11 @ 11:17 AM ET
The puckhandling is an asset that shouldn't be ignored.
My point wasn't that Bryz was bad...just that he wasn't better than Broduer.

- stormeyAlterEgo

be careful what you say about St. Ilya
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

May 11 @ 11:17 AM ET
USA is tied with Kazakhstan, really?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
The puckhandling is an asset that shouldn't be ignored.
My point wasn't that Bryz was bad...just that he wasn't better than Broduer.

- stormeyAlterEgo

My point was more that Brodeur didn't really have a chance to outplay Bryzgalov. The Devils won on the relentless efforts of their skaters. Bryzgalov was one of the few reasons the Flyers were even competitive through this series. I wouldn't take the comment as a slight to Marty.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
The puckhandling is an asset that shouldn't be ignored.
My point wasn't that Bryz was bad...just that he wasn't better than Broduer.

- stormeyAlterEgo

So Bryzgalov was not at any time better than Brodeur? And Brodeur wasn't much less busy? Because you said none of that was true a moment ago.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 11 @ 11:19 AM ET
and gave up more goals?
Facing more shots and greater chances does not make you a better goalie. If you make the saves then sure.

- stormeyAlterEgo


More times than not the team that produces more shots and more scoring chances is going to score more goals. The Flyers struggled to get the puck out of their own end and at times went almost a period before even getting a shot on goal. Brodeur made some nice saves but the opportunities and better scoring chances were by the Devils. Cant dismiss that fact.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
be careful what you say about St. Ilya
- vejim


It's not criticizing him that bothers most, it's suggesting he belongs in the KHL. Exaggerate much?
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
So Bryzgalov was not at any time better than Brodeur? And Brodeur wasn't much less busy? Because you said none of that was true a moment ago.
- funmaster18

What game was Bryz far superior to Marty in which he was busier?
The only game the Flyers won they outshot the Devils.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 11 @ 11:23 AM ET
and gave up more goals?
Facing more shots and greater chances does not make you a better goalie. If you make the saves then sure.

- stormeyAlterEgo

Sooo...Brodeur was the better goalie in the series because Bryz gave up more goals??
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 11 @ 11:24 AM ET
What game was Bryz far superior to Marty in which he was busier?
The only game the Flyers won they outshot the Devils.

- stormeyAlterEgo



where is Howard when we need him!


funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:25 AM ET
What game was Bryz far superior to Marty in which he was busier?
The only game the Flyers won they outshot the Devils.

- stormeyAlterEgo


"at times better" and "far superior" are vastly different. Not sure what posts your are reading.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:26 AM ET
where is Howard when we need him!
- ggunky

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 11 @ 11:27 AM ET
Looks like this game is going to a..........














































.......shootout

EDIT:
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:27 AM ET
"at times better" and "far superior" are vastly different. Not sure what posts your are reading.
- funmaster18

Ok. He said "far better" not "far superior". You win.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
Ok. He said "far better" not "far superior". You win.
- stormeyAlterEgo


lol, you mad? He said at times he was far better. He doesn't say in the majority of the games he dominated Brodeur. The point is he's not the reason they lost.
stormeyAlterEgo
Location: The Attack Line of Drouin, Galchenyuk, Lehkonen - Brandon Smille
Joined: 09.24.2008

May 11 @ 11:31 AM ET
lol, you mad? He said at times he was far better. He doesn't say in the majority of the games he dominated Brodeur. The point is he's not the reason they lost.
- funmaster18

I'm hardly mad.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 11 @ 11:32 AM ET
Ok. He said "far better" not "far superior". You win.
- stormeyAlterEgo

Bryz was standing on his head consistently in this series. He was a monster. He was easily the Flyers' best and most consistent player.

Just because he gave up goals doesn't mean he was bad or he wasn't "better" than Brodeur.

The last time Marty was consistently tested was game 1. In games 2-5 there were times when the Flyers would go 15+ minutes without a shot. And what was Bryz doing during those 15 minutes? Keeping the Flyers in it with tremendous play.

Bryz was AT LEAST "equal, and if not better than Brodeur".
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

May 11 @ 11:35 AM ET
and gave up more goals?
Facing more shots and greater chances does not make you a better goalie. If you make the saves then sure.

- stormeyAlterEgo


How dare you say that someone with a 3.46 GAA and a 0.887 save percentage in the playoffs was anything but amazing
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 11 @ 11:37 AM ET
However, that production may have taken its toll as reports out of Canada say Giroux may need surgery on one or both of his wrists this off-season.

crap. i knew it.
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