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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:21 PM ET
With the system that they play, a solid backup goaltender would keep them in contention.
- 77rams


he really just needs to be good in the shootout.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:21 PM ET
Homer isn't going to just give him away. So I think that the return will definately be for a player that is needed.
- stveshdy


I don't either. I think that JvR has to have a good solid year and show progression. He's got to be more consistent in his physical game and provide solid and consistent offense.

Holmgren's comments kind of indicate that JvR is being expected to take a step forward in 2012-13
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:21 PM ET
Case in point.



Sam Carchidi ‏ @BroadStBull

Bryz sick of the scrutiny. My #Flyers blog: http://bit.ly/Ke0koW

- MBFlyerfan

Dude I have like an eye booger stuck to my eyeball and it blurred my vision so bad that i thought I read that you actually wrote that.

People are female doging about Bryz's pay, wtf Carchidi needs to hand his pay back after writing that! All he did was summarize the other reporter's interview omfg what a joke
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:22 PM ET
understood. obviously the flyers don't want that either. they want to reap the fruits of their patience. i'd be willing to give him 1 more year, assuming he's healthy, of showing real progress and becoming a key player they can count on. after that, i'm looking to move him for the right price.
- hammarby31


Well, yeah, if he comes out next year and scores 15 goals and his physical game is inconsistent, then they have to look at moving him.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:23 PM ET
I don't either. I think that JvR has to have a good solid year and show progression. He's got to be more consistent in his physical game and provide solid and consistent offense.

Holmgren's comments kind of indicate that JvR is being expected to take a step forward in 2012-13

- Jsaquella


JvR can dominate when he has his game going. He can be very physical at times but for some reason he seems to lack confidence when things aren't going his way. He's still a young kid but he needs to take a step forward next season.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:24 PM ET
yes it is.
- hammarby31

I'm not sure if posting this video directly in here is in violation of the coc so here's the link trust me when I tell ya hammar that poop ain't fake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItAzJD0o9NQ
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 10 @ 11:26 PM ET
Hopefully, in 3 years Couturier is a stud second line center being named a Selke finalist and putting up 70 points. I'm very excited to see him and Schenn getting more offensive opportunities.
- Jsaquella


hell to the yea
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:27 PM ET
I'm not sure if posting this video directly in here is in violation of the coc so here's the link trust me when I tell ya hammar that poop ain't fake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItAzJD0o9NQ

- JoeRussomanno


i will not click on this link. will. not. click.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:27 PM ET
i will not click on this link. will. not. click.
- hammarby31

well if you're gonna go to prison... u might as well...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:28 PM ET
JvR can dominate when he has his game going. He can be very physical at times but for some reason he seems to lack confidence when things aren't going his way. He's still a young kid but he needs to take a step forward next season.
- stveshdy


Look at his career path. He played NJ high school and US developmental team, then went to UNH. That means, he was probably the best player in his league without even having to break a sweat for most of his life.

Sounds dumb, but he's still learning how to use his size and skill and keep his intensity level high.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:28 PM ET
Well, yeah, if he comes out next year and scores 15 goals and his physical game is inconsistent, then they have to look at moving him.
- Jsaquella


let's hope that doesn't happen.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:29 PM ET
Look at his career path. He played NJ high school and US developmental team, then went to UNH. That means, he was probably the best player in his league without even having to break a sweat for most of his life.

Sounds dumb, but he's still learning how to use his size and skill and keep his intensity level high.

- Jsaquella


oh come on. the nj parochial league is the best in the nation.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:30 PM ET
oh come on. the nj parochial league is the best in the nation.
- hammarby31



But that's why I'm willing to extend his window a bit more than I would a guy who was playing in Kamloops at 16 and not Middletown High
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 10 @ 11:31 PM ET
If Kimmo throws in the towel, does his cap hit come off the books?
- Giroux_Is_God


It isn't going to happen, but yes it would come off the books. He was 32 when he signed the contract.

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:31 PM ET
Look at his career path. He played NJ high school and US developmental team, then went to UNH. That means, he was probably the best player in his league without even having to break a sweat for most of his life.

Sounds dumb, but he's still learning how to use his size and skill and keep his intensity level high.

- Jsaquella


Absolutely. The problem is with the new contract comes big expectations. People may let him slide now because he is young and was on an EL deal but now things change and the pressure is on. Will see what type of kid he is. Theres two ways to go: step up or fall apart.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 10 @ 11:31 PM ET
I'm not sure if posting this video directly in here is in violation of the coc so here's the link trust me when I tell ya hammar that poop ain't fake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItAzJD0o9NQ

- JoeRussomanno



Dude....W...T...F??
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:32 PM ET
Howard Eskin just tweeted that he's hearing 9 Flyers will be going under the knife. Timonen will have back surgery for his disc problems, and JvR will be having hip surgery
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:33 PM ET
Dude....W...T...F??
- MBFlyerfan

hey hammar said he wants to go to prison if the Devils get a goalie who makes us grab our ankles for another fifteen years, so... I'm just trying to help him out.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:33 PM ET
Absolutely. The problem is with the new contract comes big expectations. People may let him slide now because he is young and was on an EL deal but now things change and the pressure is on. Will see what type of kid he is. Theres two ways to go: step up or fall apart.
- stveshdy


The money shouldn't raise expectations to unreasonable levels. Sometimes far too much is made of a guy's contract and not enough of the hurdles he has to overcome.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 10 @ 11:33 PM ET
so what are everybody's takes on top 5 forwards, dmen and goalies in the nhl this year?

i'll go first:
malkin weber lunqvst
giroux karlsson quick
stamkos chara smith
daniel sedin seidenberg miller
zach parise doughty howard
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:33 PM ET
Howard Eskin just tweeted that he's hearing 9 Flyers will be going under the knife. Timonen will have back surgery for his disc problems, and JvR will be having hip surgery
- Jsaquella

thanks to you I don't really have to log into my twitter Thanks!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:34 PM ET


But that's why I'm willing to extend his window a bit more than I would a guy who was playing in Kamloops at 16 and not Middletown High

- Jsaquella


he actually played for christian brothers academy (cba) which has had a good program for a long time, but i get your point, and it's a good one.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:35 PM ET
hey hammar said he wants to go to prison if the Devils get a goalie who makes us grab our ankles for another fifteen years, so... I'm just trying to help him out.
- JoeRussomanno


i didn't say i WANTED to go. who the hell WANTS to go? i just said i WOULD go.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:35 PM ET
The money shouldn't raise expectations to unreasonable levels. Sometimes far too much is made of a guy's contract and not enough of the hurdles he has to overcome.
- Jsaquella


Not that I disagree but with a cap world thats how most players are viewed. Is so and so worth that hit?

I think his expectations next season has to be around the 60-65 point mark possible higher.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:35 PM ET
The money shouldn't raise expectations to unreasonable levels. Sometimes far too much is made of a guy's contract and not enough of the hurdles he has to overcome.
- Jsaquella


cough, bryz, cough
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