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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:09 PM ET
I read an article today that pointed to Parise resigning with the Devils now that they made it to the ECF. He really wants to play with a team that can contend. His agent said this has had an impact on him possibly wanted to stay.
- stveshdy


who's their goalie next year? matthau and lemon only have so much left in the tank.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:10 PM ET
but, but, but....he didn't score on nabakov in the shootout!!!!
- hammarby31

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:10 PM ET
who's their goalie next year? matthau and lemon only have so much left in the tank.
- hammarby31

I think rumors have them making a play for Bernier. Not totally sure how true that is. They will find someone even if they have to go with a one year deal with Brodeur.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
11:11 make a wish
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
No, he wasn't. But the same knocks that JvR has levied against him are the same that LeClair faced at age 22.

Now, if we're shutting a window, it had better be long after age 22.

- Jsaquella


how much time do you give him? 25? 27? it's not as if he's earning entry-level money either. the flyers paid him handsomely for projected/expected production.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:12 PM ET
11:11 make a wish
- flyerscup2011


*Jagr hits free agency*
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:12 PM ET
that's the thing about sports, especially hockey, you just never know what move will pay off in spades or which one will fall on its face
- flyerscup2011


You don't, which is why you need to hire good scouts that you have faith in, and put the players you acquire in a position to succeed.

I'd be on the lookout for:

1. A top pair defenseman, if not a true number one, via trade if possible
2. A good defensive center, with some size, who can play on the PK & win draws
3. A gritty veteran winger who has a wealth of playoff experience & a Cup ring
4. Failing landing a top pair defenseman, a solid second pair guy with a big point shot who can work a PP point
5. A veteran backup that can handle 15-20 starts and not need to play to develop.

hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:12 PM ET
I don't know their financial situation but I don't think its a lock that Parise hits the open market, thats just my guess of course.
- stveshdy


it generally blows. somehow they're paying kovulchuk, just don't ask me how.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:13 PM ET
how much time do you give him? 25? 27? it's not as if he's earning entry-level money either. the flyers paid him handsomely for projected/expected production.
- hammarby31


That contract was alittle premature imo. I didnt see the need to offer that kind of a deal. I think they paid him more than what he's worth so far in his early NHL career. However, if he does what is expect it would be a steal down the road.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:14 PM ET
I think rumors have them making a play for Bernier. Not totally sure how true that is. They will find someone even if they have to go with a one year deal with Brodeur.
- stveshdy


even if they do get bernier, he's not likely to come in and be that instant #1. i just get the feeling he's not going to pan out, regardless of where he plays. not sure what kind of prospects they have. i will say that if they replace brodeur with someone resembling him for the next 10-15 years i will end up in prison.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:15 PM ET
11:11 make a wish
- flyerscup2011


i wish we were all getting fired up for game 7 right now.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:15 PM ET
even if they do get bernier, he's not likely to come in and be that instant #1. i just get the feeling he's not going to pan out, regardless of where he plays. not sure what kind of prospects they have. i will say that if they replace brodeur with someone resembling him for the next 10-15 years i will end up in prison.
- hammarby31

just be a devils fan. Prison isn't worth it
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 10 @ 11:16 PM ET
Case in point.



Sam Carchidi ‏ @BroadStBull

Bryz sick of the scrutiny. My #Flyers blog: http://bit.ly/Ke0koW
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:16 PM ET
how much time do you give him? 25? 27? it's not as if he's earning entry-level money either. the flyers paid him handsomely for projected/expected production.
- hammarby31


He did manage a 20 goal season in 2010-11, and as Holmgren said, he battled injuries all season long this past season.

I'm not totally closed to trading him, but at the same time, it's got to be as a part of landing a top pair defenseman that can play 30 minutes and be a rock. I think the guy has a ton of skill and would hate to see him blow things up in a different sweater.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 11:16 PM ET
i wish we were all getting fired up for game 7 right now.
- hammarby31

I wish I was arguing about how many left turns in the parade
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:16 PM ET
just be a devils fan. Prison isn't worth it
- JoeRussomanno


yes it is.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
You don't, which is why you need to hire good scouts that you have faith in, and put the players you acquire in a position to succeed.

I'd be on the lookout for:

1. A top pair defenseman, if not a true number one, via trade if possible
2. A good defensive center, with some size, who can play on the PK & win draws
3. A gritty veteran winger who has a wealth of playoff experience & a Cup ring
4. Failing landing a top pair defenseman, a solid second pair guy with a big point shot who can work a PP point
5. A veteran backup that can handle 15-20 starts and not need to play to develop.

- Jsaquella


1. totally agree, i think we need a player of that caliber
2. sounds like coots in 3 years
3. something i meant to hit on, we really need better play along the walls
5. much needed, too bad bob got pigeon holed
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
He did manage a 20 goal season in 2010-11, and as Holmgren said, he battled injuries all season long this past season.

I'm not totally closed to trading him, but at the same time, it's got to be as a part of landing a top pair defenseman that can play 30 minutes and be a rock. I think the guy has a ton of skill and would hate to see him blow things up in a different sweater.

- Jsaquella


Homer isn't going to just give him away. So I think that the return will definately be for a player that is needed.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
even if they do get bernier, he's not likely to come in and be that instant #1. i just get the feeling he's not going to pan out, regardless of where he plays. not sure what kind of prospects they have. i will say that if they replace brodeur with someone resembling him for the next 10-15 years i will end up in prison.
- hammarby31


With the system that they play, a solid backup goaltender would keep them in contention.
flyfan1212
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I am the god of tits and wine.
Joined: 05.06.2011

May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
*Carle hits free agency*
- stveshdy

fixed
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
That contract was alittle premature imo. I didnt see the need to offer that kind of a deal. I think they paid him more than what he's worth so far in his early NHL career. However, if he does what is expect it would be a steal down the road.
- stveshdy


perhaps, but it's done, so they've all got to live with it.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:18 PM ET
Case in point.



Sam Carchidi ‏ @BroadStBull

Bryz sick of the scrutiny. My #Flyers blog: http://bit.ly/Ke0koW

- MBFlyerfan


i will not click on that link. will. not. click.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 11:19 PM ET
fixed
- flyfan1212


Depends on the amount of money Carle is asking for.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 10 @ 11:19 PM ET
1. totally agree, i think we need a player of that caliber
2. sounds like coots in 3 years
3. something i meant to hit on, we really need better play along the walls
5. much needed, too bad bob got pigeon holed

- flyerscup2011


Hopefully, in 3 years Couturier is a stud second line center being named a Selke finalist and putting up 70 points. I'm very excited to see him and Schenn getting more offensive opportunities.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 10 @ 11:20 PM ET
He did manage a 20 goal season in 2010-11, and as Holmgren said, he battled injuries all season long this past season.

I'm not totally closed to trading him, but at the same time, it's got to be as a part of landing a top pair defenseman that can play 30 minutes and be a rock. I think the guy has a ton of skill and would hate to see him blow things up in a different sweater.

- Jsaquella


understood. obviously the flyers don't want that either. they want to reap the fruits of their patience. i'd be willing to give him 1 more year, assuming he's healthy, of showing real progress and becoming a key player they can count on. after that, i'm looking to move him for the right price.
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