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Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 10 @ 3:18 PM ET
The writer of this blob.

I don't know which specific Blob but Bill has stated it before.

I don't know any of these players so I can only go by what other write.

- ggunky


Danny talked at length after the PC today about how much he loves living in Philly and plans for it to be his permanent home. Mentioned that his oldest son is starting HS and his kids view Philly as their home. Also said how much he simply likes the lifestyle, weather and location here.

ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 10 @ 3:19 PM ET
honestly do not miss having cable one bit

i'd be watching that crap every night

- Crimsoninja



How do you watch the Flyers, without cable, sir?

Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
How do you watch the Flyers, without cable, sir?
- ggunky

dad's house, friends' houses, bars, online
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
Danny talked at length after the PC today about how much he loves living in Philly and plans for it to be his permanent home. Mentioned that his oldest son is starting HS and his kids view Philly as their home. Also said how much he simply likes the lifestyle, weather and location here.
- bmeltzer



Thank you, sir.

ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 10 @ 3:20 PM ET
dad's house, friends' houses, bars, online
- Crimsoninja



Smart man.

I like the way you roll.

Like, lettuce roll.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 10 @ 3:21 PM ET
I was told Jagr has had a thigh strain during the playoffs but it was hush hush. guess we will find out how true that is tonight tho when the injury list comes out.
- nastyflyergirl


He was asked, but declined to talk about any injuries he played through in playoffs. Said it's part of hockey and players on all teams deal with it.

RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
Well if we're focusing on today then I would be concerned as Bryz's performance was subpar. I'm like everyone else banking on next year he'll be better adjusted, etc. I think it's an interesting option for a franchise to have. My guess would be they sit on it for another year and re-assess then.
- aosplayo


To me it depends on how the clause is written. If your allowed 1 buyout, penality free over the course of the next CBA, then you wait to use it when you need it, for example if Weber becomes UFA next year and you need to cut cap bad to sign him.

If the cluase only allows a buyout before the current season, then there are 3 players you have to consider.
1. Pronger. But because he is on LTIR it does not effect in season cap, just the off-season cap.
2. Bryzgalov. If you don't think he will be what your paying him to be, right now might be your only chance to get out of it. But then who are you going to get to be your Number 1 next year? So this is unlikely either.
3. Briere. This is the most logical choice for me. He is the highest paid player on the team, and just doesnt show up during the regular season, and his defensive liability hurts the team as much as his scoring helps the team in the playoffs. Besides Briere is not as effective on the wing, and we currently have 6 guys not including him on this team that can play center, not to mention players like Cousins and Brown that deserve a shot next year. And finally, Briere's last contract year is during a year that we will need to resign Giroux, Schenn, Couturier, Read, and Meszaros... not including anyone else that signs between now and then... If these guys continue to progess, this could be very expensive, and having Briere at 6.5 million and a NMC could prevent you from signing 1-2 of these guys....
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 10 @ 3:24 PM ET
He was asked, but declined to talk about any injuries he played through in playoffs. Said it's part of hockey and players on all teams deal with it.
- bmeltzer


So it seems unless Jagr wants to take a paycut or sty the same, he's out of here. Do you see any teams giving him more than what he made this year? Especially after his playoff performance?
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 10 @ 3:25 PM ET
He was asked, but declined to talk about any injuries he played through in playoffs. Said it's part of hockey and players on all teams deal with it.
- bmeltzer

or he doesnt want to hurt his offseason $$ value



jk everyone!!
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

May 10 @ 3:25 PM ET
heard this year is going to be pretty deep in the draft we should be okay by staying put.
- JoeRussomanno

Ok would you move this years and next years firsts, a second, cousins and a roster player for Weber? Tough choices ahead.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
Well if we're focusing on today then I would be concerned as Bryz's performance was subpar. I'm like everyone else banking on next year he'll be better adjusted, etc. I think it's an interesting option for a franchise to have. My guess would be they sit on it for another year and re-assess then.
- aosplayo

Well when you haven't had a goalie post anywhere near a 2.00 gaa when starting over 30 games since Esche in '04 and this guy comes along and has a year where he still manages to put up a goals against average under his career average and only one other goalie matched those numbers since 04 I'm not ready to jump down the goalie's throat. That's just me, I know right now it's the in thing to bash a guy who was the best goalie down the stretch in the league and was our best player in a series where our team was a no-show but I'm not going to that party.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 10 @ 3:26 PM ET
Danny talked at length after the PC today about how much he loves living in Philly and plans for it to be his permanent home. Mentioned that his oldest son is starting HS and his kids view Philly as their home. Also said how much he simply likes the lifestyle, weather and location here.
- bmeltzer


Its going to suck when he gets amnisty claused.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:27 PM ET
who would score in the playoffs??
- Briere

Giroux, Harntell, Schenn, Couturier. oh yea and we wouldn't have to worry about putting them with guys that can play defensively.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:28 PM ET
Its going to suck when he gets amnisty claused.
- RooNosHockey

not really be able to go after team needs, if it even happens.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
dad's house, friends' houses, bars, online
- Crimsoninja

I used to do that but with the price of gas it got expensive. It was almost like actually going to the games.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

May 10 @ 3:29 PM ET
So it seems unless Jagr wants to take a paycut or sty the same, he's out of here. Do you see any teams giving him more than what he made this year? Especially after his playoff performance?
- funmaster18



From reading the Habs blog, sounds like Patch's and Jagr are really good friends.

Would the Habs offer Jagr a contract, who knows. More then what he currently makes, no clue.

Glad I could clear that up for ya, FM!



funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 10 @ 3:30 PM ET
Its going to suck when he gets amnisty claused.
- RooNosHockey


I hope they don't even have an amnesty Clause after how much you've talked about it and buying out Briere
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 10 @ 3:30 PM ET
So it seems unless Jagr wants to take a paycut or sty the same, he's out of here. Do you see any teams giving him more than what he made this year? Especially after his playoff performance?
- funmaster18


He was quite good against Penguins -- points in 5 of the 6 games, and his best game of series may have been the clincher where he didn't get a point.

He struggled mightily against Devils, along with pretty much every Flyers winger on the top three lines.

And, yes, a host of teams see how much leadership he brought along with 50+ plus points and would want him, which means there will be teams that offer him $4 million and up.

He said it won't be a money decision -- it will be a role on team decision (i.e., back on first PP unit, etc).

funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

May 10 @ 3:31 PM ET
From reading the Habs blog, sounds like Patch's and Jagr are really good friends.

Would the Habs offer Jagr a contract, who knows. More then what he currently makes, no clue.

Glad I could clear that up for ya, FM!


- ggunky


Thanks gunk!
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 10 @ 3:31 PM ET
Its going to suck when he gets amnisty claused.
- RooNosHockey


Zero chance.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:32 PM ET
Zero chance.
- bmeltzer

that sucks we could really use that money for a guy that scores in the playoffs and back checks
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 10 @ 3:36 PM ET
He was quite good against Penguins -- points in 5 of the 6 games, and his best game of series may have been the clincher where he didn't get a point.

He struggled mightily against Devils, along with pretty much every Flyers winger on the top three lines.

And, yes, a host of teams see how much leadership he brought along with 50+ plus points and would want him, which means there will be teams that offer him $4 million and up.

He said it won't be a money decision -- it will be a role on team decision (i.e., back on first PP unit, etc).

- bmeltzer


That's a lot of money to spend on an old player. Tough call.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

May 10 @ 3:37 PM ET
He was quite good against Penguins -- points in 5 of the 6 games, and his best game of series may have been the clincher where he didn't get a point.

He struggled mightily against Devils, along with pretty much every Flyers winger on the top three lines.

And, yes, a host of teams see how much leadership he brought along with 50+ plus points and would want him, which means there will be teams that offer him $4 million and up.

He said it won't be a money decision -- it will be a role on team decision (i.e., back on first PP unit, etc).

- bmeltzer


Bill, his role only diminished in the last series when he was ostensibly injured. He can't be pissed about that can he? Otherwise, he was on the top line and saw second PP minutes. Is that where he wanted more? If that's the deciding factor in whether he wants to play for the Flyers again, I'm okay with him not re-signing.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 10 @ 3:38 PM ET
Here face is all busted!

Here eyes are not symmetrical, they look like Sloth's eyes from Goonies.

- ggunky



I believe she was bitten by a dog as a young child.

Are there suspensions on here for simply being an ah0le?
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

May 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
Danny talked at length after the PC today about how much he loves living in Philly and plans for it to be his permanent home. Mentioned that his oldest son is starting HS and his kids view Philly as their home. Also said how much he simply likes the lifestyle, weather and location here.
- bmeltzer


And don't forget shopping at Wegmans.

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