His stock is pretty low right now because of the character issues, but I also think because of this you could get an elite offensive talent for a "bargin".

I understand that it would be a high-risk move, but there is also a pretty high reward if it works out. I'd offer him a one year contract and the opportunity to play with the Sedins. I think his style would fit well with them and he would easily be a threat to score 40 goals. Then he could go get his massive long-term contract from some other poor team.

There are worse things than having an extremely motivated, talented Russian sniper on a one year contract.
- Brandon_Lee

OK, that I can live with but does this team really have a problem in the regular season? Do we need a 40 goal score during the regular season to improve this team? I want someone who's not going to disappear in the playoffs. I want consistancy throughout the season and into the playoffs.

Not sure why people think a sniper is what the Sedins need. They get most of their goals off of the cycle. The 3rd guy on their line generally putts the puck in. He's not a renown grinder.
- micah555

There isn't enough puck for the Sedins and Rads on one line. It would be ridiculous.

There was a certain element of tragedy in it though. If you like to laugh at people, this post was pretty hilarious.
- micah555

Oh I was laughing....just for different reasons than he was looking for.

Just looking at the Wings post of what they have as far as forwards this summer.
Spizzirri say Filpula is a true center with good numbers. He played LW with Datz this year but not sure with one year what he is doing ,SAME AS Edler. Here is another proposal

Edler Booth Raymond (RFA) Tanev for Filpula Stuart Abdekader (RFA)
.If they get Suter they would have a good top 4
Suter Lidstrom
Kronwall Edler


If we go after Parenteau we could have

Sedin Sedin Parenteau
Malone Filpula Kesler
Burrows Schroeder Hansen
Higgens Lapierre Kassian

Hamhuis Bieksa
Stuart Wideman
??? Schultz

There was a certain element of tragedy in it though. If you like to laugh at people, this post was pretty hilarious.
- micah555

Kind of like AV's "bird seed" comment. Very tragic.

Just looking at the Wings post of what they have as far as forwards this summer.
Spizzirri say Filpula is a true center with good numbers. He played LW with Datz this year but not sure with one year what he is doing ,SAME AS Edler. Here is another proposal

Edler Booth Raymond (RFA) Tanev for Filpula Stuart Abdekader (RFA)
.If they get Suter they would have a good top 4
Suter Lidstrom
Kronwall Edler


If we go after Parenteau we could have

Sedin Sedin Parenteau
Malone Filpula Kesler
Burrows Schroeder Hansen
Higgens Lapierre Kassian

Hamhuis Bieksa
Stuart Wideman
??? Schultz
- VANTEL

Edler and Tanev...

Edler and Tanev...
- bloatedmosquito

Edler injured last year injured this year. Half the games good half the games not so good.This team needs new faces.

Pahlsson had 6 points in 19 games with the Canucks. That works out to about 26 points a year. He also scored one of our 8 goals against LA. He ins't a bad option for the bottom 6 at a reasonable price.

Burrows isn't going anywhere.
- micah555

I think the Canucks need to break away from grinders on the wrong side of their career like Pahlsson and Malholtra. They contribute very little outside of their own zone. Plus, both of them are too slow to be effective on the forecheck. I just don't think the Canucks can grind their way to the cup with slow veteran forwards with limited offensive skills. The Canucks need to break out of the mindset that they want to win games 1-0.

As for Burrows, of course every one would love him to stay. However, he's not going to accept another contract extension at 2 million per year. I love Burrows, but I'm not willing to pay him anything over 3-3.5 million per. Move him now while he has the most value.

Just looking at the Wings post of what they have as far as forwards this summer.
Spizzirri say Filpula is a true center with good numbers. He played LW with Datz this year but not sure with one year what he is doing ,SAME AS Edler. Here is another proposal

Edler Booth Raymond (RFA) Tanev for Filpula Stuart Abdekader (RFA)
.If they get Suter they would have a good top 4
Suter Lidstrom
Kronwall Edler


If we go after Parenteau we could have

Sedin Sedin Parenteau
Malone Filpula Kesler
Burrows Schroeder Hansen
Higgens Lapierre Kassian

Hamhuis Bieksa
Stuart Wideman
??? Schultz
- VANTEL

That seems like a huge over payment to me!I still think there is no way Malone will wave his NTC to come here. If Tampa really wants Luongo, why not package him, Edler + for Hedman, Purcell +?

As for Burrows, of course every one would love him to stay. However, he's not going to accept another contract extension at 2 million per year. I love Burrows, but I'm not willing to pay him anything over 3-3.5 million per. Move him now while he has the most value.
- Brandon_Lee

Saku Koivu just got a one-year contract extension worth $3 million US plus bonuses. Based on that what do you think Burr is worth?

Not sure why people think a sniper is what the Sedins need. They get most of their goals off of the cycle. The 3rd guy on their line generally putts the puck in. He's not a renown grinder.
- micah555

We have never really seen the Sedins with a true sniper on the wing. They have always played with more gritty wingers because it was cheaper. You could get great production out of players like Pyatt and Burrows on cheap contracts, allowing the Canucks to spend their money on other areas.

Who knows what they could go with a true sniper over a full season.

I think the Canucks need to break away from grinders on the wrong side of their career like Pahlsson and Malholtra. They contribute very little outside of their own zone. Plus, both of them are too slow to be effective on the forecheck. I just don't think the Canucks can grind their way to the cup with slow veteran forwards with limited offensive skills. The Canucks need to break out of the mindset that they want to win games 1-0.

As for Burrows, of course every one would love him to stay. However, he's not going to accept another contract extension at 2 million per year. I love Burrows, but I'm not willing to pay him anything over 3-3.5 million per. Move him now while he has the most value.
- Brandon_Lee

Canucks should have very few untouchable pieces.Two things come into play Contracts and Heart.The Sedins have two years left with NMC .I would say ok to them as untouchable and Hansen and Schneider also.

Players like Edler Burrows with one year remaining if the right deal is in play I have to say jump at it.

Kesler . We need to decide quickly.He has a NTC going to kick in next year . Is he breaking down ,Is he bad for the room? Tough call

Everyone else is tradable.

That seems like a huge over payment to me!I still think there is no way Malone will wave his NTC to come here. If Tampa really wants Luongo, why not package him, Edler + for Hedman, Purcell +?
- Chest Rockwell

Sure

That seems like a huge over payment to me

Edler and Filpulas term and contract very similar. We get a top 6 forward they get a top 4 D

We get a top 6 forward a top 4 D and a great instigator and give up a very good D , a contract that has everyone scratching their head (Booth) A RFA and a Prospect.

Not that much of an overpayment.

OK, that I can live with but does this team really have a problem in the regular season? Do we need a 40 goal score during the regular season to improve this team? I want someone who's not going to disappear in the playoffs. I want consistancy throughout the season and into the playoffs.
- bloatedmosquito

I wouldn't say that Radulov disappeared during the playoffs (expect maybe during the early morning hours), I thought he well enough considering he was playing with David Legwand. Also, Trotz isn't exactly known as an offensively orientated coach.

In previous years we have seen the Sedins shut down in the post season by checking lines and defensive pairings that can stop the cycle. Radulov would certainly make that line more dangerous off the rush. Imagine Henrik feeding the puck on the rush to either Daniel or Radulov? Ridiculous.

There isn't enough puck for the Sedins and Rads on one line. It would be ridiculous.
- nikoli1206

They would be very dangerous off the rush. The Sedins often look for the trailer on the rush, Radulov has enough speed and skill to generate (and convert) on a ton of those chances.

Canucks should have very few untouchable pieces.Two things come into play Contracts and Heart.The Sedins have two years left with NMC .I would say ok to them as untouchable and Hansen and Schneider also.

Players like Edler Burrows with one year remaining if the right deal is in play I have to say jump at it.

Kesler . We need to decide quickly.He has a NTC going to kick in next year . Is he breaking down ,Is he bad for the room? Tough call

Everyone else is tradable.
- VANTEL

I would put Fin in the untouchable category. I mean, how can you not love this whale?

I think the Canucks need to break away from grinders on the wrong side of their career like Pahlsson and Malholtra. They contribute very little outside of their own zone. Plus, both of them are too slow to be effective on the forecheck. I just don't think the Canucks can grind their way to the cup with slow veteran forwards with limited offensive skills. The Canucks need to break out of the mindset that they want to win games 1-0.

As for Burrows, of course every one would love him to stay. However, he's not going to accept another contract extension at 2 million per year. I love Burrows, but I'm not willing to pay him anything over 3-3.5 million per. Move him now while he has the most value.
- Brandon_Lee

You did see what the Leafs gave Grabovski, right? Burrows is worth twice what we are paying him now. He's been loyal to the Canucks, the Canucks should be loyal to him. I say we pay him.

Pahlsson is good on draws and as my stats just suggested, he's not actually providing little outside his own zone. He's actually a reasonably effective player for his paycheck and he's a guy with a Stanley Cup ring. If we had a better, younger version available for the same price, I'm all for it. As it is, he's not a bad player.

Malhotra was a better player beofre his injury. Now he's not as good. That's a given. Either we can bury him, buy him out or ride with him for the final year of his deal. I don't oppose any of those options. He is still only 31. Maybe he'll come back healthier and ready to be a 30 point guy again. He's got a NTC and there doesn't seem to be an easy answer to that one.

I would put Fin in the untouchable category. I mean, how can you not love this whale?


- bloatedmosquito

She is trying to date rape him.

We have never really seen the Sedins with a true sniper on the wing. They have always played with more gritty wingers because it was cheaper. You could get great production out of players like Pyatt and Burrows on cheap contracts, allowing the Canucks to spend their money on other areas.

Who knows what they could go with a true sniper over a full season.
- Brandon_Lee

There was a guy named Naslund, but I can't remember much about him... I don't recall it going that well, though.

Saku Koivu just got a one-year contract extension worth $3 million US plus bonuses. Based on that what do you think Burr is worth?
- bloatedmosquito

No question there are some horrible contracts around the league. I just personally think the Canucks could get better value for their money elsewhere, while picking up a nice return for Burrows in the process.

Plus I'm hoping the Canucks find an upgrade for his position on the top line. Then you have to ask yourself does he fit long term with Kesler and Booth? IMO, you move him now while he has the most value.

You did see what the Leafs gave Grabovski, right? Burrows is worth twice what we are paying him now. He's been loyal to the Canucks, the Canucks should be loyal to him. I say we pay him.

Pahlsson is good on draws and as my stats just suggested, he's not actually providing little outside his own zone. He's actually a reasonably effective player for his paycheck and he's a guy with a Stanley Cup ring. If we had a better, younger version available for the same price, I'm all for it. As it is, he's not a bad player.

Malhotra was a better player beofre his injury. Now he's not as good. That's a given. Either we can bury him, buy him out or ride with him for the final year of his deal. I don't oppose any of those options. He is still only 31. Maybe he'll come back healthier and ready to be a 30 point guy again. He's got a NTC and there doesn't seem to be an easy answer to that one.
- micah555

.833 cap hit two years . I say bury him,retire him or trade him.

There was a guy named Naslund, but I can't remember much about him... I don't recall it going that well, though.
- micah555

Well, I think we can agree that the Sedins became top line players right around the time Naslund was on the decline. I don't think you can judge their ability to play with a sniper on the wing based off that experience.

No question there are some horrible contracts around the league. I just personally think the Canucks could get better value for their money elsewhere, while picking up a nice return for Burrows in the process.

Plus I'm hoping the Canucks find an upgrade for his position on the top line. Then you have to ask yourself does he fit long term with Kesler and Booth? IMO, you move him now while he has the most value.
- Brandon_Lee

They need to upgrade a guy who does everything and still scores 30 goals with no PP time?

The market says 50 point guys are worth a fair bit of money. Burrows has played for scraps and been the biggest team guy around. I wouldn't trade him unless we got back the kind of return nobody would sensibly offer.

.833 cap hit two years . I say bury him,retire him or trade him.
- VANTEL

Making the cost between playing him and not playing him this year $1.667m. I'd just as soon pay him to play than pay him not to. He's still one of the best faceoff men in the league.

She is trying to date rape him.
- VANTEL

Pamela loves her animals.