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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 9 @ 12:14 PM ET
BY the way, has the McKenzie blog on Bryz been removed? When I click on the story page, I get only the comments section.

http://tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=395438
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

May 9 @ 12:15 PM ET
the 1st goal was a big deflection, most goalies wont get it

2nd while he did f up big time on it, he isnt a puckhandler and doesnt make the best decisions and timmonen put him in a bad situation

3rd was a blast into the upper corner off post by kovy, not too many woulld stop that

bryz was far from the problem

- dmarsden2988


That was a cut and paste from a Bob McKenzie article. Very surprised by the lack of quality analysis from him
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:15 PM ET
system issue or personnel issue (not saying trade the personnel, but symptomatic of a really young and talented forward corps)?
- OrangeBlack27

Combination of both, as well as inexperience.

The system is designed to get the lead and play with the lead.. some how we ended up losing almost every single time we got the first goal (one exception). I think youth was a big reason for that. We had 8 guys 23 or younger out on the ice last night..

Coots, Read, Schenn, Voracek, Gusty, and Wellwood are all playing in their first playoffs.. They all played well over bits of the first round, but some were pretty non existent in the second round (a side from a goal here or there). Most were not very noticeable. This will prepare them for the next time.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
speaking of Vancouver I'd explore getting Edler.

he had a tough playoffs but is a great young defenseman.

It would cost Jvr + I think, but those are the kind of guys I'd look for.
John Carlsen is another one.

These are the kind of players that are rarely moved though, so it may be a pipe dream

- Marc D

PSSSHHTTT, we got Carle!
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
I think the coaching staff struggled this series, we need a new goalie coach and Bryz has to be better next year and Homer needs to get a couple of good young D men. Did Jersey even work up a sweat this series?
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 9 @ 12:19 PM ET
obviously i am happy the devils won last night and finished the series, but i feared that if the flyers won last night that the flyers had a good chance to win the series, would of had a lot more jump with giroux coming back and could have pulled through with a win and game 7 at home would have been scary for the devils


*while i thought the giroux hit was def suspendable worthy due to the intent, i was shocked that he was suspended due to the way shanahan has been giving suspensions out, thought it could have gone either way

good luck next season
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:19 PM ET
I think the coaching staff struggled this series, we need a new goalie coach and Bryz has to be better next year and Homer needs to get a couple of good young D men. Did Jersey even work up a sweat this series?
- vejim

Absolutely. Thats what happens when you play 60 minutes of hard nosed, battle for every inch hockey.. regardless of whether or not the other team fights back.

Cudos to the Devils for putting on a hockey clinic. It was impressive.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 9 @ 12:21 PM ET
BY the way, has the McKenzie blog on Bryz been removed? When I click on the story page, I get only the comments section.

http://tsn.ca/blogs/bob_mckenzie/?id=395438

- PT21


hope so. that was his absolute all-time worst work.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:21 PM ET
obviously i am happy the devils won last night and finished the series, but i feared that if the flyers won last night that the flyers had a good chance to win the series, would of had a lot more jump with giroux coming back and could have pulled through with a win and game 7 at home would have been scary for the devils


*while i thought the giroux hit was def suspendable worthy due to the intent, i was shocked that he was suspended due to the way shanahan has been giving suspensions out, thought it could have gone either way

good luck next season

- dmarsden2988

I got into an arguement with a few guys because they didnt think it warranted a penalty.

My rationale is always, how would I react if it happened to a Flyer... I would have been furious. Penalty warranted.. suspension (tough) but I think the right choice.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
Combination of both, as well as inexperience.

The system is designed to get the lead and play with the lead.. some how we ended up losing almost every single time we got the first goal (one exception). I think youth was a big reason for that. We had 8 guys 23 or younger out on the ice last night..

Coots, Read, Schenn, Voracek, Gusty, and Wellwood are all playing in their first playoffs.. They all played well over bits of the first round, but some were pretty non existent in the second round (a side from a goal here or there). Most were not very noticeable. This will prepare them for the next time.

- jak521


jake <3
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
hope so. that was his absolute all-time worst work.
- OrangeBlack27

It didnt even look like something he would write. He mentioned individual game save %'s. Seriously?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
jake <3
- OrangeBlack27

Exactly why I said most. He played very well. His skating is insane.
jimi james
Location: Somewhere Between
Joined: 07.17.2010

May 9 @ 12:25 PM ET
Where's FlyFreaky and his take on Bryz?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 9 @ 12:27 PM ET
I think the coaching staff struggled this series, we need a new goalie coach and Bryz has to be better next year and Homer needs to get a couple of good young D men. Did Jersey even work up a sweat this series?
- vejim



They picked up a sweat, like the sweat you pick up from a well-planned workout at the gym. Flyers picked up a sweat of the kind where you are running in panic. NJ played more, and moved more in the post-season; Flyers looked much more gassed.
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

May 9 @ 12:28 PM ET
Well looks like the Flyers need a goalie................ again.. I know of a pretty good one coming on the market, how would you feel about Bryz backing up The Monster
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:28 PM ET
Where's FlyFreaky and his take on Bryz?
- JIMI-JAMES

who?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 9 @ 12:28 PM ET
Where's FlyFreaky and his take on Bryz?
- JIMI-JAMES

He doesn't tend to post here.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

May 9 @ 12:29 PM ET
It didnt even look like something he would write. He mentioned individual game save %'s. Seriously?
- jak521


Maybe an intern wrote it and it was so bad they had to remove it.

I do wonder sometimes if those guys actually write everything posted, or if some of those "article" are like letters from a congressman, written by interns.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 9 @ 12:29 PM ET
Well looks like the Flyers need a goalie................ again.. I know of a pretty good one coming on the market, how would you feel about Bryz backing up The Monster
- Mr_Smokey

We have our goalie thanks.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 9 @ 12:30 PM ET
PSSSHHTTT, we got Carle!
- jak521

has he played his last game for the Orange and Black?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 9 @ 12:30 PM ET
Well looks like the Flyers need a goalie................ again.. I know of a pretty good one coming on the market, how would you feel about Bryz backing up The Monster
- Mr_Smokey

Funny how this tune keeps repeating
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

May 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
They picked up a sweat, like the sweat you pick up from a well-planned workout at the gym. Flyers picked up a sweat of the kind where you are running in panic. NJ played more, and moved more in the post-season; Flyers looked much more gassed.
- PT21

the flyers D looked so old and slow
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
has he played his last game for the Orange and Black?
- Marc D

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
has he played his last game for the Orange and Black?
- Marc D

If he wants more than 4.5 mill, I sure hope so.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 9 @ 12:33 PM ET
I got into an arguement with a few guys because they didnt think it warranted a penalty.

My rationale is always, how would I react if it happened to a Flyer... I would have been furious. Penalty warranted.. suspension (tough) but I think the right choice.

- jak521



Well, if Flyers had been the beneficiaries of non-suspensions for similar offences in the past, and there was one on us, I personally would be ok with a non-suspension. Consistency is very important. Same as in a game. Something could be clearly hooking but often that is let go in say overtime of a playoff game unless really, really bad. But if you suddenly call one and say of course it is hooking, and yes it is, then it is reasonable to question about the other missed ones.
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