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jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

May 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Serious. You know it's still warm, too. Look at the nice melty sheen on those chips.
- Scoob

ahhaha.. i drank way too much last night.. and havent had a single thing to eat yet today.. Im droolin over here!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

May 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
You need a goalie that is used to this. Price?
- Prolific_Scorer



I would take price in a heartbeat because he is younger...yeah.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
I like JVR and think he will be a great player, but i think he needs to get traded cause staying here isn't motivating his ass.
- Philly1980


With the new CBA coming up, I would rather Homer hold onto JVR unless there is an offer that is just too good to refuse. This way, JVR will have time next season to show he can play when not injured and either be the player we want him to be, or decide we can trade him to fill a need in-season or at the TDL.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
Or they finally got favorable matchups, rather than drawing Detroit in the first round. We saw two years ago what getting favorable matchups during the postseason can do.
- eayost


Chicago and Nashville aren't exactly favorable matchups imo. They both have significantly more talent than Phoenix does.
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

May 9 @ 11:27 AM ET
I would take price at this point...yeah.
- Philly1980

At this point?
Sabreshark
Location: WA
Joined: 02.17.2012

May 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
Not at all, suprisingly.

It has been a pretty good discussion of what happened and why.

- ggunky

Proud of you guys.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
If it's a trade that helps the team (and why would you make a trade that didn't) then I'm okay with that. You have to give to get.
- Scoob


Agreed. Have to give and take if you want to upgrade.
Sabreshark
Location: WA
Joined: 02.17.2012

May 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
At this point?
- Prolific_Scorer

He fixed it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
The only thing that as a devils fan I'd be concerned with is Brodeur turning back into a 40 year old pumpkin. He was barely tested against the Flyers and I think in the next round or two a team will be able to pressure him more. Other wise I think that team is sending fatso off into the sunset with another cup.
- JoeRussomanno


I see that as their weak spot, too. He wasn't spectacular against Florida and wasn't tested against Philly.

The upside of that, though, is he's not signed for next season so he's playing for a contract. He'll want to show he's the real deal and can come through in the clutch.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

May 9 @ 11:29 AM ET
With the new CBA coming up, I would rather Homer hold onto JVR unless there is an offer that is just too good to refuse. This way, JVR will have time next season to show he can play when not injured and either be the player we want him to be, or decide we can trade him to fill a need in-season or at the TDL.
- RooNosHockey



I dunno im on the line with him...it doesnt seem we need more offense on this team, we need defense. I think in order to get talent you have to trade talent. JVR + Read + 2 1st for Weber? i would do that...

Be funny to see that wwf move put on malkin next year!
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
I would take price in a heartbeat because he is younger...yeah.
- Philly1980

Don't ya just love these thought provoking questions being used to get us to bash our goalie? Just love it today. Well i'm out for the day got stuff to do have a good one guys. Go Flyers!!!
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
I wish the fans would do more of this.

I don't get the "refs you suck" when you could instead be cheering on your team with the "Lets go Flyers".

Not trying to tell the fans how to act, just don't understand their logic.

- ggunky



I'm amused by all of these chants. Remember the Na Na Na Na chant with 3 min left in the Pens game. Wait till it over or at least 30 second left. i will say the Devils have some crazy ass chants as well...saw it live Game 3 I was laughing the whole time...
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

May 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
Chicago and Nashville aren't exactly favorable matchups imo. They both have significantly more talent than Phoenix does.
- PLindbergh31


Some teams just play better against certain teams, regardless of "talent". We've seen this play out over and over year after year.

And maybe Chicago and Nashville just aren't as good as their talent would indicate
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

May 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
Don't ya just love these thought provoking questions being used to get us to bash our goalie? Just love it today. Well i'm out for the day got stuff to do have a good one guys. Go Flyers!!!
- JoeRussomanno



Yeah i know man...i do think Price is better than Bryz and has more potential...But i also think that Bryz is very capable of leading this team to a cup if he has the right support.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

May 9 @ 11:32 AM ET
Yeah i know man...i do htink Price is better than Bryz and has more potential...But i also think htat Bryz is very capable of leading this team to a cup if he has the right support.
- Philly1980

amen k now i'm really out.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 9 @ 11:33 AM ET
Some teams just play better against certain teams, regardless of "talent". We've seen this play out over and over year after year.

And maybe Chicago and Nashville just aren't as good as their talent would indicate

- eayost


so are you saying chi and nash are



?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
His skating isnt all that bad to start with, but Underhill does wonders. Imagine a summer with Barb and Gary Roberts

Didnt she sign some sort of skating coach contract witht he Leafs?

- jak521

Consultant. Don't think it's exclusive. She runs summer camps.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

May 9 @ 11:36 AM ET
Don't ya just love these thought provoking questions being used to get us to bash our goalie? Just love it today. Well i'm out for the day got stuff to do have a good one guys. Go Flyers!!!
- JoeRussomanno

Butthurt much? It was a question?
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

May 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
Yeah i know man...i do think Price is better than Bryz and has more potential...But i also think that Bryz is very capable of leading this team to a cup if he has the right support.
- Philly1980

Will Pronger play again or is he finished?
LW2530
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone have some change?, FL
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
I like JVR and think he will be a great player, but i think he needs to get traded cause staying here isn't motivating his ass.
- Philly1980


He's a 60-65 point player tops. Not great and not the difference maker Holmgren hopes he will become. Not acceptable for his skill set or draft position taken.

I'd trade him in a heartbeat for the 2nd overall pick in any future draft.
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

May 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
said it last night, will say it again today, this team has 2 major issues moving forward; they need to find out why they are so inconsistent game to game. The rags are a very good team because, quite simply, they are relentless game in and game out and they play the same way every night. They work their asses off EVERY game. Those of us who remember the mid 80s teams know that this was their major trait as well. This team does not have that trait; unless that is fixed, they are no threat to win a cup. The other issue that has to get fixed; team defense...it is AWFUL. They are a bad defensive team as a whole. I don't know how you fix it, but if they are going to move forward with Bryz, they better learn to play better in their own end...just my $.02
- matman31


Teams of the 80s had good two-way players like Poulin, Sutter, and Zezel. I think the Flyers have too many defensively deficient players. I'm not bashing Briere but he is a really good offensive player who struggles mightily defensively. JVR isn't very good efensively. Jagr was a liability late this season defensively. Even sometimes Giroux isn't committed defensively and leaves a gap because he is trying to look for the quick counter. When you have 2 of those players on 1 line, its rough. I do like Couturier, Talbot, Wellwood, and Read's defensive capabilities.

I don't know what they can to their roster maybe trade JVR and not resign Jagr and have more balanced lines defensively.
Sabreshark
Location: WA
Joined: 02.17.2012

May 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
Butthurt much? It was a question?
- Prolific_Scorer

Just a question, not mad or anything, but why are you in the Flyers thread after we just lost and not in the Habs thread?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
Will Pronger play again or is he finished?
- Prolific_Scorer

Dunzo
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
How come my posts show up as blank?

EDit: ok this one seems to have worked. Very odd.

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