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bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 9 @ 1:23 AM ET
How so? Defense is a team game. Bryzgalov shouldn't be blamed without the team.
- NJFlyersFan

Then why the crack about hurting Bryzgalov's feelings? That sure sounded like a slam at Bryz (or those defending him).
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 1:25 AM ET
How so? Defense is a team game. Bryzgalov shouldn't be blamed without the team.
- NJFlyersFan

NJFlyersFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Jersey
Joined: 03.02.2010

May 9 @ 1:25 AM ET
Then why the crack about hurting Bryzgalov's feelings? That sure sounded like a slam at Bryz (or those defending him).
- bodiva88

One should know defense is a team effort and you can't blame one player... unless he's Matt Carle
NJFlyersFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Jersey
Joined: 03.02.2010

May 9 @ 1:25 AM ET

- Giroux_Is_God

Wat
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 1:27 AM ET
Wat
- NJFlyersFan

First you slam Bryz along with those defending him, and then you say that the defense is the problem, then you say how you can't blame one without the other....

bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 9 @ 1:27 AM ET
One should know defense is a team effort and you can't blame one player... unless he's Matt Carle
- NJFlyersFan

Ok. You don't get how that comment came off. It sounded in that post like you were blaming Bryz and making fun of people who felt as you apparently do.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

May 9 @ 1:27 AM ET
Good News for Homer, not a lot of player to re-sign this summer. Plenty to hand out possible extensions but not many to worry about walking. No offense to Matt Carle but I do think it's for the best that we use his money else where. I also think it's for the best to do the same with Jagr. Then again, who's the biggest pure sniper on the market this summer?
- roenick97

It's an absolute must to let Carle walk and use the possible 6 million else where. I also think the Flyers need to get the idea of playing with Teemu and Koivu in Kimmo's mind and then see if we can plant the idea in Anaheim's mind that Selanne might play another year if the three Fin's are together.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 9 @ 1:28 AM ET
Ok. You don't get how that comment came off. It sounded in that post like you were blaming Bryz and making fun of people who felt as you apparently do.
- bodiva88


you know better than to waste your time with 2real
NJFlyersFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Jersey
Joined: 03.02.2010

May 9 @ 1:29 AM ET
Ok. You don't get how that comment came off. It sounded in that post like you were blaming Bryz and making fun of people who felt as you apparently do.
- bodiva88

No, I really do believe Bryzgalov is a great goalie when he gets support from his team. Like most great goalies do.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 1:34 AM ET
On a different note, how bout Rinaldo tonight....

Wowzers
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

May 9 @ 1:35 AM ET
It's an absolute must to let Carle walk and use the possible 6 million else where. I also think the Flyers need to get the idea of playing with Teemu and Koivu in Kimmo's mind and then see if we can plant the idea in Anaheim's mind that Selanne might play another year if the three Fin's are together.
- Flyers1218

I was also thinking that maybe it's time to walk away from Briere or Timonen. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that Timonen might want a trade to a real cup contender (Not saying we're not). Selfishly though, should we walk away from these types of player, the void would have to be filled. Timonen is our number one defenseman and Briere is the league's leader in points in the playoffs since the New NHL began. There isn't a single person here who could deny that he's money in the playoffs. I think he's a tough player to walk away from no matter how much money he makes.

I would love somehow get Chris Stewart and Shea Weber this off season and let Carle and Jagr walk. However, you've got to give to get.

I'd also consider buying out Shelley and signing a much cheaper and younger fighter.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

May 9 @ 1:39 AM ET
I was also thinking that maybe it's time to walk away from Briere or Timonen. I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility that Timonen might want a trade to a real cup contender (Not saying we're not). Selfishly though, should we walk away from these types of player, the void would have to be filled. Timonen is our number one defenseman and Briere is the league's leader in points in the playoffs since the New NHL began. There isn't a single person here who could deny that he's money in the playoffs. I think he's a tough player to walk away from no matter how much money he makes.

I would love somehow get Chris Stewart and Shea Weber this off season and let Carle and Jagr walk. However, you've got to give to get.

I'd also consider buying out Shelley and signing a much cheaper and younger fighter.

- roenick97

Timonen to Anaheim for a 2nd. Carle's rights for a 3rd. Waive Shelley. Sign Suter. Trade JVR and Anaheim's 2nd for Brent Seabrook thus giving Chicago approximately 1.2 mill more in cap space for a goalie and a hell of a forward.
NJFlyersFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Jersey
Joined: 03.02.2010

May 9 @ 1:41 AM ET
Timonen to Anaheim for a 2nd. Carle's rights for a 3rd. Waive Shelley. Sign Suter. Trade JVR and Anaheim's 2nd for Brent Seabrook thus giving Chicago approximately 1.2 mill more in cap space for a goalie and a hell of a forward.
- Flyers1218

jvr for schenn
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

May 9 @ 1:44 AM ET
jvr for schenn
- NJFlyersFan

Not what I'm looking for if trading JVR, but I don't know if Chicago would be willing to trade Seabrook.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

May 9 @ 1:50 AM ET
On a different note, how bout Rinaldo tonight....

Wowzers

- Giroux_Is_God




I am OK with him having a regular spot as long as he keeps the stupids to a low level.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 9 @ 1:54 AM ET


I am OK with him having a regular spot as long as he keeps the stupids to a low level.

- Lexington Flyer

Agreed. I've always been of this school of thought.

The only problem is that his stupids have definitely been cut down, but he still gets called for a ridiculous amount of phantom rep calls that sometimes render him useless, especially in the playoffs.

Shame really....
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 9 @ 2:33 AM ET
Timonen to Anaheim for a 2nd. Carle's rights for a 3rd. Waive Shelley. Sign Suter. Trade JVR and Anaheim's 2nd for Brent Seabrook thus giving Chicago approximately 1.2 mill more in cap space for a goalie and a hell of a forward.
- Flyers1218


Except Chicago needs D, and are going to be offering a monster contract to Suter themselves.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 9 @ 6:47 AM ET
One other thing I noticed...and this is NOT an excuse, but merely an observation-

The hockey gods were against us this series. Yes, we all know that our play was subpar, to put it lightly, but did anyone else notice all the bounces went the Devils' way ALL series?? From Briere's post tonight to less noticeable things, like a breakout pass hopping over a Flyer's stick, hitting the boards, and right to a devil mid stride.

Like I said- not an excuse. Hell, the axiom "you make your own luck" could apply here. These lucky bounces could just be a byproduct of a hard working Devils team flying all over the ice....regardless, the bounces were just another "sign" to me that it just wasn't going to happen.

- Giroux_Is_God


Devils hit two posts tonight
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 9 @ 8:13 AM ET
Timonen to Anaheim for a 2nd. Carle's rights for a 3rd. Waive Shelley. Sign Suter. Trade JVR and Anaheim's 2nd for Brent Seabrook thus giving Chicago approximately 1.2 mill more in cap space for a goalie and a hell of a forward.
- Flyers1218


Do you honestly think that Chicago is going to give up Seabrooke for JVR? That they're going to make a bad deal just to get some Cap space?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 9 @ 9:34 AM ET
Devils hit two posts tonight
- Just5

A HIT POST IS JUST A MISS!
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