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keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

May 8 @ 10:11 PM ET
I did not see the half-assed effort. I think they really tried today but either they are injured or gassed or just badly out of sync.
- PT21

Every team left is gassed and injured at this point but find a way to get the job done...
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 8 @ 10:11 PM ET
Move JVR for a #1 Dman. Let Jagr walk. Bring in a Gaustad type. Sign Carle or preferably upgrade over him. I'd be OK with the forward group - Jagr and JVR plus Rinaldo (his enegrgy would have been nice all series, as long as he reigns in the stupid) and a big mucker grinder checker. I'd be OK with the D-corps if they get a true #1 D-man and get a solid upgrade for the #6 spot.

(frank) it. I can shave now.

- Lexington Flyer



Not only is he a underachiever, he has a bog contract. We probably get someone like DiPietro for him at this stage.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 8 @ 10:11 PM ET
I did not see the half-assed effort. I think they really tried today but either they are injured or gassed or just badly out of sync.
- PT21



I saw some poor officiating that cost Philly at critical times. Then bad penalties taken by Philly. A sudden absense of break out passes by the Flyers. AND Marty Brodeur.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

May 8 @ 10:11 PM ET




I know what you mean... but kinda funny

- eayost

what?

man, who won the conn smythe that season?
please
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

May 8 @ 10:11 PM ET
I did not see the half-assed effort. I think they really tried today but either they are injured or gassed or just badly out of sync.
- PT21


Effort was a little too late.

Should Rinaldo have been playing the whole series. I'd take his play over JvR.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

May 8 @ 10:12 PM ET
JVR= #1 D man?

Gimmie some of dat crack boi

- HotSauceBlueChs


Ok move him in a package for a #1. He wouldn't be the only piece obviously.

Speaking of crack...How'd that overpayment for Leino work out in Buffalo?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 8 @ 10:12 PM ET
Could have used some of that hard work in games 2-4
- matman31


Can't argue that but the Flyers still are our team, nice to show the support.
flyer186
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: niagara falls, ON
Joined: 02.05.2007

May 8 @ 10:12 PM ET
you no i am gonna get crucified for this but ... and dont get me wrong he has been a warrior for us... but i think we should move Kimmo.... he is getting older and he is a great d-man but his age is showing and these playoff runs are taking its toll on him... teams would jump at him and we could get a good young prospect or even a good pick plus the cap space would allow us to make a huge offer to Sutter
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

May 8 @ 10:12 PM ET
The other team was just better?
- Yosimar89


By a whole lot.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

May 8 @ 10:12 PM ET
If people are picking the Kings for the cup, with all that we've seen in the playoffs this year, then there's a good chance they won't win.
- feelingkettle

Oh my guade
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 8 @ 10:12 PM ET
Question: Did they Flyers take too much joy in beating Pitt in the first round that they lost focus?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
i only saw the final 5 minutes. thank goodness for that. there aren't enough words to describe how crappy the end of the season was. to go 1-6 in the playoffs when scoring first is literally unheard of, to have the series winning goal happen the way it did, to lose 4 straight after winning the opening game, to allow 3 goals minimum in all 5 games, to have their depth shrivel up and die, to have their best player be unavailable because of a stupid, selfish, and dirty hit...with so many top teams knocked out in the first 2 rounds.

there's a lot of talented youth on the team, and they should improve, but only winning 1 more game than last year doesn't have me thinking about that right now.

LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
I saw some poor officiating that cost Philly at critical times. Then bad penalties taken by Philly. A sudden absense of break out passes by the Flyers. AND Marty Brodeur.
- Buffalo--Sabres


The Flyers have no one to blame but themselves for losing this series.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
you no i am gonna get crucified for this but ... and dont get me wrong he has been a warrior for us... but i think we should move Kimmo.... he is getting older and he is a great d-man but his age is showing and these playoff runs are taking its toll on him... teams would jump at him and we could get a good young prospect or even a good pick plus the cap space would allow us to make a huge offer to Sutter
- flyer186


Not a ridiculous idea, but he has a NMC I believe.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
tim cheveldae? bob essensa? ya
- wingz4life

Howard's numbers were pretty bad these playoffs, eh?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
The other team was just better?
- Yosimar89


Sometimes you've gotta give a little credit to the other guys.

dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
well gentleman as bad as this stings, not many thought this team would be this good this quick. the loss of pronger coupled with the other injuries on the blueline really hurt. time to take this young team and make a few tweaks, solidfy the D, get some good defensive and sound wingers. lets go pheonix i bode you all a goodnight
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
If someone said prior to the season, Pronger's career will be ended in November, and the Eastern Conference Finals would be Devils/Rags, I wouldn't have watched a single game.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
you no i am gonna get crucified for this but ... and dont get me wrong he has been a warrior for us... but i think we should move Kimmo.... he is getting older and he is a great d-man but his age is showing and these playoff runs are taking its toll on him... teams would jump at him and we could get a good young prospect or even a good pick plus the cap space would allow us to make a huge offer to Sutter
- flyer186


I'd do it. Kimmo has said some things this year that have irked me, plus he's leveling off in terms of his play. I also have a sneaking suspicion that he doesn't like Bryz.
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
you no i am gonna get crucified for this but ... and dont get me wrong he has been a warrior for us... but i think we should move Kimmo.... he is getting older and he is a great d-man but his age is showing and these playoff runs are taking its toll on him... teams would jump at him and we could get a good young prospect or even a good pick plus the cap space would allow us to make a huge offer to Sutter
- flyer186


What's his cap hit?

Does he have a NMC?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
Every team left is gassed and injuries at this point but find a way to get the job done...
- keatondixon



Various people just did not look like they do at other times. Hartnell, Kimmo are the two most obvious examples.

However, people need to stop pretending we are 1-2 pieces away from the cup. Its not gonna happen next year either. Then its the post-kimmo era
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

May 8 @ 10:13 PM ET
Howard's numbers were pretty bad these playoffs, eh?
- feelingkettle

just him? u could mention everyone on the team
nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

May 8 @ 10:14 PM ET
you no i am gonna get crucified for this but ... and dont get me wrong he has been a warrior for us... but i think we should move Kimmo.... he is getting older and he is a great d-man but his age is showing and these playoff runs are taking its toll on him... teams would jump at him and we could get a good young prospect or even a good pick plus the cap space would allow us to make a huge offer to Sutter
- flyer186

I would be for this, if a quality d man is being inserted in his place.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 10:14 PM ET
Sometimes you've gotta give a little credit to the other guys.
- 77rams


No question that the better team won.
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

May 8 @ 10:14 PM ET
Well a decent season considering all the turnover.
Instead of blame I am kind of curious what the seasons end interviews with the players will be like.

I expect the scapegoat bandwagon to be out in full force. There were far to many invisible players to pick on Bryz, JVR, Carle etc.

The Devs are a better team. Talent alone does not constitute the better team. We showed that against the Pens.
Kudos to the devils for their disciplined play after the whistle.
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