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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 8 @ 8:23 PM ET
He had no choice but to get the puck out of there.

And Meszaros does not look good at all. He looks tentative and slow.

- MJL


Still not as bad as Grossman and Gustaffson. Man those 2 are just awful in this series
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 8 @ 8:23 PM ET
Bryz had a ton of time to make the right play. He tried to force it. He could've easily played it up the boards either way.
- _Zippy_

that is what I saw too, bryz just waited too long

at the same time I hate passing it back to a goalie who struggles with handling the puck
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

May 8 @ 8:23 PM ET
bullpoop. You are wrong. That is all. He could easily put it behind
- ukeman

Yeah there was another player right on the other side he could have passed it to ... instead he shoots it right at Clarkson coming at him.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 8 @ 8:23 PM ET
Puck seems to be following Talbot tonight.

Was the first NJ goal offsides?

- Marc D


Even in slow motion with several angles, it was hard to tell.
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

May 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
Not wow Bryzgalov. Wow Timonen. That goal is on Timonen. That is an absolutely piss poor decision to pass that puck back to the net. Timonen has the puck high in the zone and a simple chip out. Instead he sends it back to Bryzgalov who has a player right on him. Bryzgalov is not a strong puck handler. And it was a luck bounce for the Devils. Just an awful play by Timonen.
- MJL


On both. Awful decision to pass it back but Bryz just watched him forecheck up to him and tried to shoot it right past him
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
Still not as bad as Grossman and Gustaffson. Man those 2 are just awful in this series
- Just5

grossmann has not been the same player since his head shot from malkin
ukeman
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Yakety Sax, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

May 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
not sure what you do or dont do. i just happened to use you post to post mine.
- KINGKENZO

ok, no worries. Like Bryz but the inconsistency is maddening.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 8 @ 8:24 PM ET


Two periods of hockey left. The Flyers need to continue to play the same way. Two bad breaks. Have to move on and get one back. I thought the Flyers did a great job in that first period. Playing with more heart and passion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 8:24 PM ET
Bryz had a ton of time to make the right play. He tried to force it. He could've easily played it up the boards either way.
- _Zippy_


No he didn't have a ton of time. Clarkson was right on him. He tried to do what Timonen should have done. Chip it out off the glass. If it was Brodeur who is an excellent puck handler, I would agree with you. But Bryzgalov isn't, and never has been.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

May 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
Why wasn't Rinaldo on the ice more in the 2nd half?
- wolfhounds

Cuz Laviolette doesn't know what he's doing... at all.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 8 @ 8:25 PM ET


Two periods of hockey left. The Flyers need to continue to play the same way. Two bad breaks. Have to move on and get one back. I thought the Flyers did a great job in that first period. Playing with more heart and passion.

- stveshdy

+1

they looked good for the most part that period

except for the large helping of dumb on the 2nd goal
guinness22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
Even in slow motion with several angles, it was hard to tell.
- 77rams


CBC had a slow mo that showed it was clearly offside. Gary Galley was talking about that and the deflection off Simmons, then they showed Lavi giving it to the officials saying it was offside.
atc
Joined: 09.30.2006

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
I can't, in any way shape or form, pin that play on Timo. A Pee Wee goaltender wouldn't try and make that play.
- 77rams


Agreed.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
No he didn't have a ton of time. Clarkson was right on him. He tried to do what Timonen should have done. Chip it out off the glass. If it was Brodeur who is an excellent puck handler, I would agree with you. But Bryzgalov isn't, and never has been.
- MJL


You're wrong. Let it go. It's on Bryz 80/20 with Timonen.
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
I can't, in any way shape or form, pin that play on Timo. A Pee Wee goaltender wouldn't try and make that play.
- 77rams


y? when did they start passing to bryz? esp with a forechecker? i'm sick of this backward passing crap, shold have just chipped it up off the glass and out. bryz had 2 options he had to make in a split second. cover it or shoot it to the corner immediately. he choose the latter and it hit the shaft of the devils stick and went directly backwards into the net. i bet if bryz does that 10 more times, all 10 times it doesnt deflect right into the net
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
Puck seems to be following Talbot tonight.

Was the first NJ goal offsides?

- Marc D

perhaps a bit ... really close, though.

kind of hard for me to complain considering the gift of Briere's offside goal last series.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
Dude, that's all on Bryz. He had plenty of time to move the puck and screwed it royally. Timonen had the guy on him, Bryz had nobody around him initially.
- wolfhounds


Absolutely not. Timonen is a defenseman who is used to handling the puck with pressure. The safe play is bank the puck out, not send it back to your own goal with a forechecker right there. Just a brutal decision by Timonen.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
No he didn't have a ton of time. Clarkson was right on him. He tried to do what Timonen should have done. Chip it out off the glass. If it was Brodeur who is an excellent puck handler, I would agree with you. But Bryzgalov isn't, and never has been.
- MJL


Then cover it up rather than force the pass.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
Puck seems to be following Talbot tonight.

Was the first NJ goal offsides?

- Marc D


It was really close. It looked like it was, but the ref was on the far side, and it was one of those close ones that could go either way.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 8 @ 8:26 PM ET
[quote=MJL]Not wow Bryzgalov. Wow Timonen. That goal is on Timonen. That is an absolutely piss poor decision to pass that puck back to the net. Timonen has the puck high in the zone and a simple chip out. Instead he sends it back to Bryzgalov who has a player right on him. Bryzgalov is not a strong puck handler. And it was a luck


Poor play in a poor period by Kimmo. But if Bryz cannot pass, can he not cover up?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 8 @ 8:27 PM ET
You're wrong. Let it go. It's on Bryz 80/20 with Timonen.
- wolfhounds


100% on Timonen. Bryzgalov was just unlucky.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

May 8 @ 8:27 PM ET
Even in slow motion with several angles, it was hard to tell.
- 77rams


Honestly, I thought it was offside. The puck was still on the blue when Poni picked his leg up.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 8 @ 8:27 PM ET


Two periods of hockey left. The Flyers need to continue to play the same way. Two bad breaks. Have to move on and get one back. I thought the Flyers did a great job in that first period. Playing with more heart and passion.

- stveshdy


I saw a little more effort. But the same issues are present. At this point it looks impossible to rip off 3 in a row against them which is all I care about.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

May 8 @ 8:27 PM ET
That goal is purely on Timonen.

Sorry to all the Bryz bashers out there, but you never hand it back to the goaltender unless he's Marty Brodeur.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

May 8 @ 8:27 PM ET
Dude, that's all on Bryz. He had plenty of time to move the puck and screwed it royally. Timonen had the guy on him, Bryz had nobody around him initially.
- wolfhounds


Goaltenders at the squirt level make that play without a problem. Timonen made the safe play, had he tried something else he could have turned the puck over in his own zone.
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