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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 8 @ 12:51 PM ET

- OrangeBlack27

RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
If Kubina was healthy enough to play and be effective, he would be in there.
- MJL

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 8 @ 12:53 PM ET
Bill,

If the Courier-Post ever offers you to fully cover the Flyers and/or replace Randy Miller, PLEASE SAY YES.

Nice work on two articles and today's blog.

Here's hoping the Flyers execute better in all three zones tonight!

Skip
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

May 8 @ 12:54 PM ET

- RooNosHockey


Sometimes, the truth hurts. And sometimes people are wrong. And sometimes one of those people is you.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
Sometimes, the truth hurts. And sometimes people are wrong. And sometimes one of those people is you.
- Flyskippy


Drop it like its hot Skip.
GoFlyersGoSlovakia
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.28.2008

May 8 @ 12:58 PM ET
Hey Skip,

heading down to the game tonight?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 8 @ 1:03 PM ET
Going to the game tonight.

Hope to see some desperation. The best teams are the desperate ones. And without G, I can't understand how they can't be desperate tonight.

The place is gonna be rockin....

...I won't be able to talk....

Let's (frank)in win tonight.
GoFlyersGoSlovakia
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.28.2008

May 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
Going to the game tonight.

Hope to see some desperation. The best teams are the desperate ones. And without G, I can't understand how they can't be desperate tonight.

The place is gonna be rockin....

...I won't be able to talk....

Let's (frank)in win tonight.

- Giroux_Is_God


All I care about tonight.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 8 @ 1:14 PM ET
Forgot your lunch again?
- BringBack25


No, he walked to school.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 8 @ 1:14 PM ET

- Deasr1


or scores a lap dance from the dancing guy
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 8 @ 1:15 PM ET
Root for Flyers West - Justin Williams (hated that trade), Mike Richards, and Jeff Carter.
- Daman


I only root for the Flyers.
All other games I watch as an unattached hockey fan. I truly do not care who wins if the Flyers aren't playing.
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

May 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
I want the Flyers to lose so that I can watch 24/7 without feeling guilty!
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
Root for Flyers West - Justin Williams (hated that trade), Mike Richards, and Jeff Carter.
- Daman


Amazing how good that team became after they unloaded Jack Johnson.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

May 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
Totally agree. Idk why he hasn't got more icetime. Id like to see him with a lot o ficetime tonight. He seems to be 1 player that has used his speed this entire series.
- Sabreshark


he's fast and shifty but he losses the puck a lot!
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

May 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
I only root for the Flyers.
All other games I watch as an unattached hockey fan. I truly do not care who wins if the Flyers aren't playing.

- Scoob



PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
When your top player who is considered one of the best players in the League, is 23. And you have a player like Couturier who is already a very good player, who is 19. And hasn't come close to the top of his potential. Same thing for Schenn who is 20. And JVR and Voracek, who are what 23, and still developing into players. Not to mention a young guy in Simmonds who took a lot of steps forward who is also in his early 20's. I can see why their best chance is in the next couple of years. Hey if they don't win the Cup in the next two years, I'd break it up and start over.
- MJL



I will gently disagree with this logic, MJL. Imo Teams win not just because they have good players but because some players outperform their contracts. In other words, its not the performance alone - its something like the difference between performance and pay. The greater the difference across players (assuming it is positive), the greater the team's chances. Typically, this happens because some rookies play great on their first contracts or players who were average elsewhere do great in that team or some guys have career years an so on.

Two years from now, Giroux will be getting probably double if not more. Couturier will get a huge raise. If Simmer continues to score 20+ goals, so will he. And so on. This means there will be less money elsewhere to spend.

And in that sense, yes, I am afraid there is a window, for if these guys all blossom, then we won't be able to afford them all after 2 years.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

May 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
I only root for the Flyers.
All other games I watch as an unattached hockey fan. I truly do not care who wins if the Flyers aren't playing.

- Scoob


I won't watch, but I would not want Richards and Carter to win -- I'd root for NJ or NY before them.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

May 8 @ 1:19 PM ET
No
- Flyskippy


stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
Amazing how good that team became after they unloaded Jack Johnson.
- bradleyc4




GeorgeBailey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 8 @ 1:21 PM ET
If the Devils can maintain the intensity of their all-out level of play, they will be hard to beat. Even with that, the Flyers, in spite of being outplayed and out-worked, still have kept the games close and could have snuck out with a victory or two.

One thing that may take that intensity out of the Devils’ game would be the ability of the Flyers to re-establish their fore-check. You can’t do normal dump-ins on Brodeur. If the far-wing is ahead of the play and the pass is not available then you use a HARD wrap with the expectation that Brodeur cannot/will not handle it and the far-winger will be able to pressure/beat the defenseman to the puck as it comes back up around the dot to the top of the circle. Otherwise, if the puck carrier is not given the line, he gives a soft dump or chip into the near corner, outside of the trapezoid, for either him or the center to establish the fore-check. If the puck is coming up the middle, then use the soft dump into the corner that will provide the best puck pursuit.

On the opposite end, the Flyers need to be positioned on dump-ins to allow the puck to continue moving in the direction it is going, with force, even if it means icing the puck. The Flyers like to reverse the puck defensively to settle the puck and establish the break-out. Unfortunately, the Devils have been all over this and it has led to a lot of turnovers and several goals.

I really think the Flyers are the better team but the Devils have been playing virtually perfect hockey other than the last 50+ minutes of game 1. I do not see them as being to maintain that level of intensity indefinitely. If the Flyers keep their legs moving, their sticks on the ice and can make some adjustments to improve their own and diminish the Devils’ fore-check, they can come back.

To the person who posted Wellwood’s picture earlier in the thread: Unfortunately, his puck possession skills are poor. If you could do a “The Fly” type of experiment with him and Jagr, that would be awesome. Unless he is behind the D or more than a stick length away from an opponent, he should not be carrying the puck, he should be dishing it off.

I would love to see Simmonds get his groove back. His great hockey sense has just been off since early in the Penguins series. In particular, on the fore-check, his pursuit angles are off just enough so that a majority of the time he has been on the wrong side of the direction of the puck (coming in to the left of a Devil when that player is already positioned to move the puck to the right).

I think I’m rambling. I’ll stop now.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 8 @ 1:22 PM ET
Amazing how good that team became after they unloaded Jack Johnson.
- bradleyc4


*salutes our captain*
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

May 8 @ 1:26 PM ET
I will gently disagree with this logic, MJL. Imo Teams win not just because they have good players but because some players outperform their contracts. In other words, its not the performance alone - its something like the difference between performance and pay. The greater the difference across players (assuming it is positive), the greater the team's chances. Typically, this happens because some rookies play great on their first contracts or players who were average elsewhere do great in that team or some guys have career years an so on.

Two years from now, Giroux will be getting probably double if not more. Couturier will get a huge raise. If Simmer continues to score 20+ goals, so will he. And so on. This means there will be less money elsewhere to spend.

And in that sense, yes, I am afraid there is a window, for if these guys all blossom, then we won't be able to afford them all after 2 years.

- PT21



Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 8 @ 1:28 PM ET
Amazing how good that team became after they unloaded Jack Johnson.
- bradleyc4

hmm, didn't think of it that way, but you may be onto something

OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 8 @ 1:29 PM ET
hmm, didn't think of it that way, but you may be onto something
- Marc D


he absolutely is. jack johnson is DREADFUL.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

May 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
he absolutely is. jack johnson is DREADFUL.
- OrangeBlack27


I wonder what the GAA is with him and without him since the trade. The Kings were still playing good defense when he was there they had trouble scoring goals.

I dunno.
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