Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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I would make any reasonable deal that didn't have Tavares, Hamonic, and Strome included in it. Nino, 4th overall, and some upper-mid level prospect seems reasonable. The truth is the Oil would only be moving down to #4. Yes Yak is better than anyone, but there will be plenty of quality talent at #4. If you traded with someone considerably further down in the draft order I'd expect the haul to be much larger, in your favor.
I'd still rather keep the pick, unless Tambellini happens to be pounding back some Jack Daniels heavily on the day Snow calls and accepts a grand larceny-like offer. - eichiefs9
True, I think for two building franchises, they're looking at fleecing the other GM every chance they get. It's a necessity. That being said I think Snow and Tambellini are competent enough that a lopsided deal won't happen.
I'm definitely going to be intently watching Murray in New York for "what could have been"... |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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True, I think for two building franchises, they're looking at fleecing the other GM every chance they get. It's a necessity. That being said I think Snow and Tambellini are competent enough that a lopsided deal won't happen.
I'm definitely going to be intently watching Murray in New York for "what could have been"... - Morris
Like I said earlier in the thread, we both have a lot of young talent and quality prospects but neither of us is really at the point where we should be trading assets. Not when the on-ice product still stinks.
As far as Murray, I'm not sure I'd be able to pass on Galchenyuk if he's still available. Don't get me wrong I'd be thrilled with Murray if we take him, but Gally just seems like he has the potential to be a really great player. It would let Strome play the wing too. But if we take Galchenyuk, every other pick in the draft better be a d-man (not literally obviously) |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Like I said earlier in the thread, we both have a lot of young talent and quality prospects but neither of us is really at the point where we should be trading assets. Not when the on-ice product still stinks.
As far as Murray, I'm not sure I'd be able to pass on Galchenyuk if he's still available. Don't get me wrong I'd be thrilled with Murray if we take him, but Gally just seems like he has the potential to be a really great player. It would let Strome play the wing too. But if we take Galchenyuk, every other pick in the draft better be a d-man (not literally obviously) - eichiefs9
Like kear20 mentioned you have to wonder if the Isles going for the #1 pick means Brooklyn is close to happening? Snow is not exactly a trading GM. What is happening that would make the Isles want the #1? |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Like kear20 mentioned you have to wonder if the Isles going for the #1 pick means Brooklyn is close to happening? Snow is not exactly a trading GM. What is happening that would make the Isles want the #1? - ses111
Nothing, they aren't trying to get the number 1. There hasn't been a single shred of legitimate media coverage (not even anything hinting that the Isles are up to something) saying they're in talks to acquire it or even want to. Eklund is the only single person on earth reporting it. Which means it's bogus. Fun to talk and debate about it, but it's more than likely not happening. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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Nothing, they aren't trying to get the number 1. There hasn't been a single shred of legitimate media coverage (not even anything hinting that the Isles are up to something) saying they're in talks to acquire it or even want to. Eklund is the only single person on earth reporting it. Which means it's bogus. Fun to talk and debate about it, but it's more than likely not happening. - eichiefs9
At this point it does not seem to make a lot of sense no offense to Ek. Besides Snow would rather get a root canal than make a trade. |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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At this point it does not seem to make a lot of sense no offense to Ek. Besides Snow would rather get a root canal than make a trade. - ses111
For the right price it makes perfect sense. I just tend not to believe a shred of whatever Eklund reports. |
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ses111
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 06.07.2008
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For the right price it makes perfect sense. I just tend not to believe a shred of whatever Eklund reports. - eichiefs9
The concussions are a concern. Let's see if Ek follows up with more information on this. If this is true why do the Isles want to make a big splash now? |
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The_Hinter
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Im here because i have nothing better to do., AB Joined: 07.11.2010
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Oilers will not give up the #1 pick unless a team overpays bigtime.
Im talking a 1st line D + first round pick or a starting tender + first round pick |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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Oilers will not give up the #1 pick unless a team overpays bigtime.
Im talking a 1st line D + first round pick or a starting tender + first round pick - The_Hinter
Marty Reasoner, a conditional 6th round pick, and an expired Applebees gift card ($5). |
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longbottom
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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Marty Reasoner, a conditional 6th round pick, and an expired Applebees gift card ($5). - eichiefs9
I'd do that trade for Barker in a nano second.........lol
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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I'd do that trade for Barker in a nano second.........lol - longbottom
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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What do you think Ek? Two games for Giroux? |
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kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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What do you think Ek? Two games for Giroux? - Canada Cup
3 games for zubrus.... |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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3 games for zubrus.... - kneughter
You're not Ek but I know you must hate divers |
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kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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You're not Ek but I know you must hate divers - Canada Cup
Who said I'm not Ek?
*mind blown* |
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cornellbigred
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Highland Park, NJ Joined: 07.21.2009
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THE SUN IS OUT AT 10:30 AT NIGHT? HOLY SH!T - eichiefs9
It's always sunny in Philadelphia. |
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TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: Brick City, NJ Joined: 10.05.2011
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Harmonic and 4th overall for Oilers 1st - VANTEL
pssssh, yea right Hamonic still has potential to develop, he's not worth a Russian who could wind up being the next Radulov or Semin |
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders |
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Location: NY Joined: 11.03.2008
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It's always sunny in Philadelphia. - cornellbigred
Touche my friend |
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Sabata
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 07.05.2007
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The point you're missing is after Yak there is a large drop off in talent level. He is the clear cut number one player.
the oilers own blogger on this sight had questions about which player to take. (yuk or yak). nobody knows just how much better or whether he's better yak will be. look how many drafts have happened and the later picks went on to much much better careers. bottom line... oilers should keep the pick... if the expect a huge payment for it, they are deluding themselves. and other teams shouldn't ecpect to get the pick for cheap... its like two players one uping each other in poker... eventually they both need to stand and see where the cards fall - ChrisMS
The Oilers blogger writes articles to create discussion. He seldom states his actual feelings.
Certainly sometimes later picks go on to better careers but it isn't the norm now is it.
There is a reason teams covet the higher picks. Writers who need to create hits or sell magazines can make all the claims they want but the reality is Yak is by far the best prospect in this draft class and it isn't close.
I'm certain the Oilers will keep the pick because Yak is one heck of a prospect and they would be foolish to trade the pick unless they get a room for it. The Oilers will be far better off by drafting BPA, developing those players and filling needs via trade and free agency.
It's funny to watch fans here sing a different tune all of a sudden. All season everyone was commenting how great Yak is now all of a sudden has all these question marks.
This kid is going to be a fabulous player in the NHL and I sure hope Edmonton doesn't trade the pick.
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True, I think for two building franchises, they're looking at fleecing the other GM every chance they get. It's a necessity. That being said I think Snow and Tambellini are competent enough that a lopsided deal won't happen.
I'm definitely going to be intently watching Murray in New York for "what could have been"... - Morris
Snow planted this rumour with Eklund so he can see what kind of trade he should make based on our feedback.
Hemsky and Edmonton's 1st to NYI
Bailey, Neiderreiter and Islander's 1st to Edmonton
Isles flip Hemsky to Columbus for the 2nd overall pick and Steve Mason
Oh, and Garth. Your next move can be to send Streit and Okposo to Vancouver for negotiating rights to steve reinprecht (then sign him to a 5 year deal), Andrew Alberts, Aaron Rome, Mason Raymond, Dale Weise and Rick Bowness.
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i thought the main point of a blog was to express your true feelings... not "seldom express" your feelings. I'm sure he was trying to create discussion, but he put his thoughts into it as well. finish reading my quote and you see my point wasn't about that, it was about how certain individual are overvauluing what would be an appropriate return in a trade fot the pick |
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realistic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 09.01.2007
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This from a source. Much more to come today
lol Classic Ek credibility |
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Maybe DiPietro (former 1st overall pick) to EDM for the 1st pick?? - Seabass2012
wow. that is all |
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dcb1
New York Islanders |
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Location: Oak Ridge, NJ Joined: 07.08.2006
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Who is available in this draft that we'd need that badly? It's not like Sidney Crosby is on the clock. I'd rather have one of the defensemen, anyway. TRADE FOR A LIVE ADULT WHO CAN PLAY DEFENSE, GARTH. If you can't see that the ability to administer some pain in front of the defensive net is THE problem with your team, you need to find something else to do for money. Enough said. |
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Cptmjl
New York Islanders |
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Joined: 11.05.2011
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.....along with 28 other teams....
It's good that Garth is doing the obvious. I mean, AT LEAST he's doing the obvious.
It PROVES he read the copy of "GMing for Dummies" that I sent him. But really, what do we have to offer in return?
Is Steve Tamby really a "trading-partner" with the Isles, like the Oilers have been with Slats? And after everything our organization did for his son Jeff, I couldn't imagine anything remotely charitable coming back from him so, the asking price will be ridiculous.
And WHY would any GM be trading/swapping picks BEFORE the Draft? Certainly, there's another team out there with a better version of what the Isles could be offering, no?
That being said....I hope they pull it off. It's not often you can get two 1st's that are considered phenominally offensively gifted. Having a younger version of JT would CERTAINLY put bodies in the seats and be exciting to watch but the two would have to score a hat-trick a night to offset the goals scored against a watered down version of our current Defense. I guess it's better than just waiting to submit offers to Weber, Suter, et al.... Good to see some ideas brewing. - jmo16
So you think because of, "everything our orginization did for his son Jeff" we aren't going to get a good deal with Tambellini. First of all, Jeff Tambellini should be thanking Snow that he gave that waste of a player every opportunity repeatedly over and over year after year to play well, he just sucks at the NHL level, doubt his dad has a grudge. Probably quite the contrary. Not sticking up for management, most know how I feel about Snow. On that note, none of this is happening, forget about it |
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