Maybe.

Who have I suggested in a trade that is a sure shot for us? DeHaan? KO? NINO?

Who's available at #4 that's not a gamble?

We've been stock piling draft picks for 5 years now. This draft and a prospect is gonna mortgage our future? I dont think so.

Yes its a gamble. The draft is a gamble. I think its time Snow roll the dice and show some Balls.

He hasnt exactly been taking the NHL by storm the past 5 yrs.

Maybe I am a bit to gun-ho. But the waiting game is getting OLD.


- SCLI

The waiting game is not only getting old, there just isn't any end of it in sight. Like I said I'd do our first, Nino, and DeHaan. I just think the Oilers would laugh at us.

Maybe.

Who have I suggested in a trade that is a sure shot for us? DeHaan? KO? NINO?

Who's available at #4 that's not a gamble?

We've been stock piling draft picks for 5 years now. This draft and a prospect is gonna mortgage our future? I dont think so.

Yes its a gamble. The draft is a gamble. I think its time Snow roll the dice and show some Balls.

He hasnt exactly been taking the NHL by storm the past 5 yrs.

Maybe I am a bit to gun-ho. But the waiting game is getting OLD.


- SCLI

Maybe.

Who have I suggested in a trade that is a sure shot for us? DeHaan? KO? NINO?

None are phenomenal players, but moving all 3, plus #4 and another pick combined is way too much value for 1 player. We're not talking about Crosby. Our only 2 quality defensive prospects, in the near future, are deHaan/Donovan. Losing Nino leaves us with dog-crap in terms of left wing prospects.

Who's available at #4 that's not a gamble?

Nobody. But moving all those players/picks to move up 3 spots to take 1 player isn't worth it. The difference in talent between Yakupov and whoever is available at #4 isn't worth giving up that much.

We've been stock piling draft picks for 5 years now. This draft and a prospect is gonna mortgage our future? I dont think so.

Trading arguably our best defensive prospect, plus a 2nd-line player, and a promising power forward prospect (and our only higher-end LW prospect) and 2 picks, for 1 player that may be really good is, to me, the exact definition of mortgaging the future.


Yes its a gamble. The draft is a gamble. I think its time Snow roll the dice and show some Balls.

Showing some balls is fine with me, but forcing a bad trade to try and do so is completely counterproductive to anything.

He hasnt exactly been taking the NHL by storm the past 5 yrs.

Maybe I am a bit to gun-ho. But the waiting game is getting OLD.





If Snow wants to show some balls, put together a package for Jordan Staal. His names been flying around recently because the Pens probably won't be able to re-sign him at the price he'll command in free agency.

You guys gotta cut KO a little slack. He had a terrible Injury to overcome. Next year if he sucks then by all means rip him apart

Maybe.

Who have I suggested in a trade that is a sure shot for us? DeHaan? KO? NINO?

None are phenomenal players, but moving all 3, plus #4 and another pick combined is way too much value for 1 player. We're not talking about Crosby. Our only 2 quality defensive prospects, in the near future, are deHaan/Donovan. Losing Nino leaves us with dog-crap in terms of left wing prospects.

Who's available at #4 that's not a gamble?

Nobody. But moving all those players/picks to move up 3 spots to take 1 player isn't worth it.

We've been stock piling draft picks for 5 years now. This draft and a prospect is gonna mortgage our future? I dont think so.

Trading arguably our best defensive prospect, plus a 2nd-line player, and a promising power forward prospect (and 2 picks) for 1 player that may be really good is, to me, the exact definition of mortgaging the future.


Yes its a gamble. The draft is a gamble. I think its time Snow roll the dice and show some Balls.

Showing some balls is fine with me, but forcing a bad trade to try and do so is completely counterproductive to anything.

He hasnt exactly been taking the NHL by storm the past 5 yrs.

Maybe I am a bit to gun-ho. But the waiting game is getting OLD.





If Snow wants to show some balls, put together a package for Jordan Staal. His names been flying around recently because the Pens probably won't be able to re-sign him at the price he'll command in free agency.
- eichiefs9

If you go on the Pens blogs you'll see how much the pens fans on here expect. They were looking for Nail, next years first, plus from the Oilers . Staal is a decent player but I think Shero is going to sell him like he's a number one just for his pedigree and his decent numbers.
He is a good two way center but I don't think he's going be worth what someone is going to pay for him via through trade or salary. I just don't think he's that great.

"and Trivino is a rapist" btw the charges got dropped
- Cptmjl

The main charge was dropped.. but not all of them.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2...-dropped-in-trivino-case/

You guys gotta cut KO a little slack. He had a terrible Injury to overcome. Next year if he sucks then by all means rip him apart
- Danformo

He needs to put it together, I hope he does but I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't.

The main charge was dropped.. but not all of them.

http://www.bu.edu/today/2...-dropped-in-trivino-case/
- niteislander

Was unaware of the rest, lmao. What a jackass. Who knows, theres always three sides especially when it comes to stuff involving college kids and booze.

If you go on the Pens blogs you'll see how much the pens fans on here expect. They were looking for Nail plus from the Oilers . Staal is a decent player but I think Shero is going to sell him like he's a number one just for his pedigree and his decent numbers.
He is a good two way center but I don't think he's going be worth what someone is going to pay for him via through trade or salary. I just don't think he's that great.
- Cptmjl

Luckily the Pens fans aren't Ray Shero. Mike Richards got flipped for a really good prospect, a quality player, and an undisclosed pick. I'd put J. Staal in or around the same value. Not to mention he's due to be a UFA, so that lowers his prices as well...assuming he's not part of a sign-and-trade.

Luckily the Pens fans aren't Ray Shero. Mike Richards got flipped for a really good prospect, a quality player, and an undisclosed pick. I'd put J. Staal in or around the same value.
- eichiefs9

Yeah, I know they aren't. Thanks for pointing that out. Just funny to think what they actually thought they'd get. I think Staal is going to get a return of more than what he's worth, a lot more. I just don't see the hype.

im not here for an argument...if you dont want to respond to my comment then so be it but dont start poop up for no reason
- LetsGoIsles

Not looking for one either. It's a bit difficult to read and answer several different posts, answer a PM and go back and check my original post where I believe I said. JT is not part of this.

I'm sorry. I have to go. Kids are waiting. Have to watch them perform in a play "The Hobit" tonight. ..

We can pick this up tomorrow if you like. Its been fun. Isnt that what its all about.

Look back to my 1st couple of posts. I'm sure that I excluded JT from any of this trade nonsense. After all that was my point.

If not. My sincerest apologies.

Not looking for one either. It's a bit difficult to read and answer several different posts, answer a PM and go back and check my original post where I believe I said. JT is not part of this.

I'm sorry. I have to go. Kids are waiting. Have to watch them perform in a play "The Hobit" tonight. .. We can pick this up tomorrow if you like. Its been fun. Isnt that what its all about.

Look back to my 1st couple of posts. I'm sure that I excluded JT from any of this trade nonsense. After all that was my point.

If not. My sincerest apologies.
- SCLI

Friggin awesome!!

Yeah, I know they aren't. Thanks for pointing that out. Just funny to think what they actually thought they'd get. I think Staal is going to get a return of more than what he's worth, a lot more. I just don't see the hype.
- Cptmjl

I meant that luckily whatever they demand for him isn't the actual asking price. Not saying you thought that. You don't see the hype because he's buried on the 3rd line behind the two best centers in the game. He's not the flashy offensive power that a guy like Malkin is, but he plays a phenomenal two-way game. He can play in all situations, and is dominant on the PK. His point totals aren't anything that jumps out at you because he gets third line minutes and is 8th on the team in PP time.

My guess is that the Pens aren't looking to trade him within the division, maybe even the conference. But he would be the perfect second line center for this team.

I meant that luckily whatever they demand for him isn't the actual asking price. Not saying you thought that. You don't see the hype because he's buried on the 3rd line behind the two best centers in the game. He's not the flashy offensive power that a guy like Malkin is, but he plays a phenomenal two-way game. He can play in all situations, and is dominant on the PK. His point totals aren't anything that jumps out at you because he gets third line minutes and is 8th on the team in PP time.

My guess is that the Pens aren't looking to trade him within the division, maybe even the conference. But he would be the perfect second line center for this team.
- eichiefs9

I'm aware he is a third line center behind Malkin and Crosby. When given the chance due to Crosby and Malkins injuries he didn't exactly take the reigns. He is a good two way center which I already stated. Its just anyone's guess how many points he can put up with additional PP time, TOI, etc? I've seen him on the PP and playing in general and I haven't been impressed to the point that I think he's worth it. Granted, I couldn't formulate as good as opinion as I could of lets say Nielsen but I've seen enough of his body of work to have a legit opinion. I personally would not trade him straight up for Yak. Some may disagree and I could see their argument to an extent. I'd take a chance on a first overall, I'll take those odds. I know the guy is an established player but I don't think he is half as good as some people think. It doesn't have everything to do with his numbers either. I don't base an opinion solely on that, I'm aware of what kind of player Staal is. I just don't think he's as good yet as some believe. BTW, love your location

I'm aware he is a third line center behind Malkin and Crosby. When given the chance due to Crosby and Malkins injuries he didn't exactly take the reigns. He is a good two way center which I already stated. Its just anyone's guess how many points he can put up with additional PP time, TOI, etc? I've seen him on the PP and playing in general and I haven't been impressed to the point that I think he's worth it. Granted, I couldn't formulate as good as opinion as I could of lets say Nielsen but I've seen enough of his body of work to have a legit opinion. I personally would not trade him straight up for Yak. Some may disagree and I could see their argument to an extent. I'd take a chance on a first overall, I'll take those odds. I know the guy is an established player but I don't think he is half as good as some people think. It doesn't have everything to do with his numbers either. I don't base an opinion solely on that, I'm aware of what kind of player Staal is. I just don't think he's as good as some believe. BTW, love your location
- Cptmjl

He needs to put it together, I hope he does but I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't.
- Cptmjl

I know he does. He seemed to be doing well and putting it together at times last year. I think he will be alright. He will score probably 27 goals next year. I really thought he started turning the corner

I'm aware he is a third line center behind Malkin and Crosby. When given the chance due to Crosby and Malkins injuries he didn't exactly take the reigns. He is a good two way center which I already stated. Its just anyone's guess how many points he can put up with additional PP time, TOI, etc? I've seen him on the PP and playing in general and I haven't been impressed to the point that I think he's worth it. Granted, I couldn't formulate as good as opinion as I could of lets say Nielsen but I've seen enough of his body of work to have a legit opinion. I personally would not trade him straight up for Yak. Some may disagree and I could see their argument to an extent. I'd take a chance on a first overall, I'll take those odds. I know the guy is an established player but I don't think he is half as good as some people think. It doesn't have everything to do with his numbers either. I don't base an opinion solely on that, I'm aware of what kind of player Staal is. I just don't think he's as good as some believe.
- Cptmjl

If I had the first overall, I wouldn't swap it for Staal. As far as how many more points he could put up with increased PP time, to put it in perspective...Tavares would have finished the season with 56 points if you took away his 25 PPP this season. He may not have shined when Crosby and/or Malkin were injured, but you could argue that they don't have a ton of offensive firepower other than those two also. Neal had a career year but I think that was partially a product of playing with one of those superstars almost every shift. You certainly don't have to agree with me, and you have some valid concerns, but I still believe he'd be the perfect second line center for the team...if the price was right. But like I said..he won't be dealt within the Atlantic division.

I know he does. He seemed to be doing well and putting it together at times last year. I think he will be alright. He will score probably 27 goals next year. I really thought he started turning the corner
- Danformo

If he scores 27 goals I'd be ridiculously happy. You hit the nail on the head by saying at times he'd be "putting it together". That's his problem, consistency. That's what separates the good players from the Blake Comeaus of the NHL. He's young and he may put it together but as far as I'm concerned this season is make or break for him but I'm not the GM so it doesn't make a damn bit of difference anyway

hasnt a new arena been built???....in brooklyn???
- LetsGoIsles

Not for hockey or the Islanders

XxNYIxX

Unfortunately, it didn't work out in Nassau. We can blame the politicians and governors or whoever we can think of. There is nothing we can do to make them stay in Nassau. As we know how Kathleen Murray feels about Islanders. It is no way in hell the will remain in here unless we have a new owner who is willing to pay for a new arena and own the land. I strongly feel that the only way is that we can see Islanders remain in the state of New York is to play at Barclays for good or build an arena next to Mets Stadium. That would make sense rationally. I know that I would go to games more often in Queens than Brooklyn. As we realize that the population in Brooklyn matches the number of population in Long Island alone. I just hope that the name of Islanders remain the same in Brooklyn. If they change it to Brooklyn Islanders then God knows that it will be a kick in the sack.
- ISLES1119

Why is Brooklyn not in NY any more?

XxNYIxX

That Nino and our 4th pick is not as crazy as it sounds. They get the D-man they want (Murray with the 4th pick).. they get a big Forward prospect in Nino.. and I am guessing the Isles throw another pick in to get it done.

Arena- To me the Isles are obviously going to Quebec. If you can't read the writing on the wall here u are not looking.
Facts:
1.Isles tried for 10 years to get a new arena done in Long Island and couldn't
2. their lease runs out in 2015
3. Wang is stockpiling prospects and backloading sallaries
4. Quebec new 400 mill arena is done in 2015 that was started this year

Every decision Wang is making is keeping costs down with an eye on the future. This team will be GREAT in 2 years.. so Wang can sell it to quebec at the Maximum profit possible so he can recoup some of his losses. Barclays may be where they are for a few years... but stop kidding yourself if you think this team is staying here...
- niteislander

XxNYIxX

If Betteman already told Wang to get ready to sell the team in 2014 and told Quebec when the Arena was done they would have a NHL team available.. do you think he would write about it in the Paper so no one would attend and Islander game for 3 years? To me this deal was already done in back rooms and EVERY move being made is to fulfill that plan.
- niteislander

XxNYIxX

The waiting game is not only getting old, there just isn't any end of it in sight. Like I said I'd do our first, Nino, and DeHaan. I just think the Oilers would laugh at us.
- Cptmjl

I think they'd try and work with us. They lack any offensive bite on that blue line outside of ryan whitney. They'd want a different forward instead of nino. They would see nino as another magnus paijarvi. Big body that can't do poop.