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Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

May 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
Bills might finish ahead of the Steelers next year. Ravens and Bengals are legit competition and we get the NFC West this year.
- Gunner Staal


pffttt. Put the Genny Creme Ale down Gunner....
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 2 @ 12:55 PM ET
yeah but didnt you know? yakupov is guaranteed to be the next datsyuk-federov-malkin all rolled into one. staal is barely more than a glorified rich peverley
- stayinthefnnet


LOL ... you are stealing my line in which Edmonton thinks they have the next Bure-Malkin and Ovechkin all rolled into one package.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 2 @ 12:57 PM ET
Bills might finish ahead of the Steelers next year. Ravens and Bengals are legit competition and we get the NFC West this year.
- Gunner Staal



Hopefully Mario Williams can throw a tight spiral, catch and cover receivers running skinny post routes.

Ps. The Bills Suck.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

May 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
Penguins area great regular season team. Hard to see how they win in the playoffs unless they add more defensive character and jam into their lineup..
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

May 2 @ 1:01 PM ET
pffttt. Put the Genny Creme Ale down Gunner....
- Emperor Filonius


Well played Filonius
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Yakupov straight up for Staal, I just don't think Stall is that good where as Yakupov has the potential of being a much better player overall. Yeah, Staal is a good defensive forward, Blah, Blah, Blah. Hes a good second line center and a very good third line center, I wouldn't trade Yakupov for that. I'll take a chance on potential rather than taking a chance on Staal fitting into a top 6 role.
- Cptmjl


I suggest you watch a Penguin game before you make a comment about Staal not being that good. He is 23 years old and has been in the league for six years. Not too many kids can say that. He isn't going to plant 40 or 50 goals per year ala Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos. He didn't do that in juniors. What he is, is one of the best two-way forwards in the game. It happened almost overnight since he came into the league. He is one of the best penalty killers in the league. His offensive game could very well be on the cusp of going somewhere. He had 25 goals in a season where he missed 20 games. Basically, he was a 30-34 goal scorer the way I look at it.

People get enamored with these first overall picks and use the word potential. Well, I take someone who has proven himself in Staal's case over a kid that shows potential. Ryan Leaf had potential ... so did Patrick Stefan, so did Alex Daigle, so did Joe Murphy. They were all supposed to have the same potential and they all failed.

In 2000, the Islanders drafted Rick DiPietro with the first overall pick. He was supposed to be the savior and a franchise changer. Tell me, how is that working out? Did he have the same potential label as this Russian kid?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

May 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
I suggest you watch a Penguin game before you make a comment about Staal not being that good. He is 23 years old and has been in the league for six years. Not too many kids can say that. He isn't going to plant 40 or 50 goals per year ala Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos. He didn't do that in juniors. What he is, is one of the best two-way forwards in the game. It happened almost overnight since he came into the league. He is one of the best penalty killers in the league. His offensive game could very well be on the cusp of going somewhere. He had 25 goals in a season where he missed 20 games. Basically, he was a 30-34 goal scorer the way I look at it.

People get enamored with these first overall picks and use the word potential. Well, I take someone who has proven himself in Staal's case over a kid that shows potential. Ryan Leaf had potential ... so did Patrick Stefan, so did Alex Daigle, so did Joe Murphy. They were all supposed to have the same potential and they all failed.

- Oneonta Penguin


Ask most Sabres fans what they feel about the word potential and hearing about it with Roy, Vanek, Pominville, Gaustad, Afinogenov etc...
HotSauceBlueChs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.07.2011

May 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
pffttt. Put the Genny Creme Ale down Gunner....
- Emperor Filonius

Ben-Imma grope girls-Roethlisberger will get injured again
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

May 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
Penguins area great regular season team. Hard to see how they win in the playoffs unless they add more defensive character and jam into their lineup..
- spatso


Or win a special teams battle once in a while during a 7 game series. I think that one might be more important.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
Next QB in line for the Bills. . . . Mr. Vince Young.
http://sports.yahoo.com/b...falo-bills-223153569.html
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

May 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
Next QB in line for the Bills. . . . Mr. Vince Young.
http://sports.yahoo.com/b...falo-bills-223153569.html

- kgrpitt


Hes an upgrade over Thigpen as the backup, I dont think that can be disputed.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 2 @ 1:05 PM ET
Ben-Imma grope girls-Roethlisberger will get injured again
- HotSauceBlueChs


Eh, we resigned Charlie Batch. .
psoneill
Joined: 05.29.2009

May 2 @ 1:06 PM ET
Trade with Canes

J Staal + 52nd Overall Pick
For
8th Overall + Jamie McBain + Zach Boychuk

Best the Pens are going to get. J Staal won't sign and trade to a team like Edmonton, he already stated his preference. This, overpay him $6+ million per, or don't and lose him for nothing as a UFA. No team giving up a top-10 pick for a rental.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 2 @ 1:07 PM ET
Hes an upgrade over Thigpen as the backup, I dont think that can be disputed.
- Gunner Staal


Yeah he def is. Young could actually be a great pickup for a team. He is more then able to run a offense for a few games.
HotSauceBlueChs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 02.07.2011

May 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Next QB in line for the Bills. . . . Mr. Vince Young.
http://sports.yahoo.com/b...falo-bills-223153569.html

- kgrpitt


I dont get whats so funny? Hes a backup?
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Trade with Canes

J Staal + 52nd Overall Pick
For
8th Overall + Jamie McBain + Zach Boychuk

Best the Pens are going to get. J Staal won't sign and trade to a team like Edmonton, he already stated his preference. This, overpay him $6+ million per, or don't and lose him for nothing as a UFA. No team giving up a top-10 pick for a rental.

- psoneill


Even though I like McBain's game we have enough prospect/young defensemen in our system.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

May 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
Trade with Canes

J Staal + 52nd Overall Pick
For
8th Overall + Jamie McBain + Zach Boychuk

Best the Pens are going to get. J Staal won't sign and trade to a team like Edmonton, he already stated his preference. This, overpay him $6+ million per, or don't and lose him for nothing as a UFA. No team giving up a top-10 pick for a rental.

- psoneill


Throw in Irbe and Jeff O'Neil or its no deal.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 2 @ 1:09 PM ET
why trade staal to canes when we can trade him to edm for a first or ana for ryan then at the end of next yr he goes to canes as a ufa, Pens win...



edit: damn refs
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

May 2 @ 1:09 PM ET
I dont get whats so funny? Hes a backup?
- HotSauceBlueChs


They are busting my balls.
kgrpitt
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 09.08.2010

May 2 @ 1:09 PM ET
I dont get whats so funny? Hes a backup?
- HotSauceBlueChs

Sorry you dont get it!?

and to answer your question, yes he is a backup.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

May 2 @ 1:10 PM ET
Trade with Canes

J Staal + 52nd Overall Pick
For
8th Overall + Jamie McBain + Zach Boychuk

Best the Pens are going to get. J Staal won't sign and trade to a team like Edmonton, he already stated his preference. This, overpay him $6+ million per, or don't and lose him for nothing as a UFA. No team giving up a top-10 pick for a rental.

- psoneill


Teams have given up top 10 picks before for a rental and will do it again. Hell, Kaberle fetched a pretty good return from Boston and he wasn't good prior to the deal. Don't kid yourself.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 2 @ 1:11 PM ET
Trade with Canes

J Staal + 52nd Overall Pick
For
8th Overall + Jamie McBain + Zach Boychuk

Best the Pens are going to get. J Staal won't sign and trade to a team like Edmonton, he already stated his preference. This, overpay him $6+ million per, or don't and lose him for nothing as a UFA. No team giving up a top-10 pick for a rental.

- psoneill



He doesn't have a choice, and no, that is not the best they would get.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 2 @ 1:13 PM ET
why trade staal to canes when we can trade him to edm for a first or La for ryan then at the end of next yr he goes to canes as a ufa, Pens win...


- nh4442



How would that work?
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

May 2 @ 1:14 PM ET
How would that work?
- canadianpenfan

lol ANA
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

May 2 @ 1:15 PM ET
lol ANA
- nh4442



Who's Lolana? Were you out drinking last night?
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