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stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 3 @ 12:26 AM ET
I don't know if Montreal will trade him...
- GuyLaDouche


that one did actually make me laugh
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

May 3 @ 12:28 AM ET
Incest is a common practise in the maritimes.
- Starbuck


Hey you ignorant flatlander...knowledge is your friend.

Newfoundland is not in the Maritime...that region includes, New Brunswick, PEI and Nova Scotia only.

Kissing cod and getting sh!t faced drunk (not in any particular order) are common practices in NL...
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

May 3 @ 12:29 AM ET
I'm very intrigued to see what he does with 50+ games
- mochoson

me too.

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:32 AM ET
Two players that EDM needs to take a serious look at: Michael Neuvirth and Mike green.

Id throw a serious offer at WASH for these guys, and no, it doesn't include Yakupov.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 3 @ 12:32 AM ET
I wouldn't argue about Schneider. He is another ridiculously talented goalie. He just needs the opportunity. It looks like next year he'll finally get it. How he performs in 55+ games remains to be seen.
- mochoson


This is true... The most he has played so far has been 33 games per season. If he can handle the workload of a starter, look out!
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 3 @ 12:33 AM ET
Call me crazy but I think Dubnyk makes a huge step next year. he looked way better once they gave him the reigns. made some truly 5 bell saves.
- GuyLaDouche


After Christmas he was great... Hopefully Khabibulin doesn't get 40+ games again
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:34 AM ET
Hey you ignorant flatlander...knowledge is your friend.

Newfoundland is not in the Maritime...that region includes, New Brunswick, PEI and Nova Scotia only.

Kissing cod and getting sh!t faced drunk (not in any particular order) are common practices in NL...

- OilHorse


I thought this was the case.

However, last year when St. John won the Memorial Cup, the announcers raved it was the "first maritime team to win the cup in X amount of years".

I was incredibly confused.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:35 AM ET
After Christmas he was great... Hopefully Khabibulin doesn't get 40+ games again
- laughs2907


Honestly, you have to play Khabi. Hopefully he plays respectively and you can trade him at some point, even if its for a mid-round pick. Take what you can get.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

May 3 @ 12:36 AM ET
I thought this was the case.

However, last year when St. John won the Memorial Cup, the announcers raved it was the "first maritime team to win the cup in X amount of years".

I was incredibly confused.

- mochoson

George St. is all you really need to know about NFLD. If you ever get a chance to do the pub crawl, it really is a blast.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 3 @ 12:36 AM ET
I thought this was the case.

However, last year when St. John won the Memorial Cup, the announcers raved it was the "first maritime team to win the cup in X amount of years".

I was incredibly confused.

- mochoson

They're St. John, NB not St. John's, NF. I make that mistake from time to time and I'm a Maritimer.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

May 3 @ 12:37 AM ET
Honestly, you have to play Khabi. Hopefully he plays respectively and you can trade him at some point, even if its for a mid-round pick. Take what you can get.
- mochoson

Back up duties are fine. Weird as it seems, I dont want to see him start out on absolute fire again. Once he came back to Earth, it seemed to take Renney a while to figure it out.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 3 @ 12:38 AM ET

PRV's not really a castoff.


similer arguement I made for staals value....

also

new deal! I'll take the first and an extra powerful goalnet alarm clock for fleury, give you staal and a sled hockey sled for Ryan Whitney... deal?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:40 AM ET
They're St. John, NB not St. John's, NF. I make that mistake from time to time and I'm a Maritimer.
- Morris


WOW. And I've been to St. John's, twice. Major major fail.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

May 3 @ 12:40 AM ET
PRV's not really a castoff.


similer arguement I made for staals value....

also

new deal! I'll take the first and an extra powerful goalnet alarm clock for fleury, give you staal and a sled hockey sled for Ryan Whitney... deal?

- ChrisMS

Throw in the fan that dresses like Hulk Hogan and a guest appearance by Scott Hartnell and you've got a deal.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:41 AM ET
Back up duties are fine. Weird as it seems, I dont want to see him start out on absolute fire again. Once he came back to Earth, it seemed to take Renney a while to figure it out.
- GuyLaDouche


I'm not talking back-up duties. I'm talking you start Dubnyk, second he has a bad game (which is inevitable for a goalie), you play Khabbi. Go back and forth. Even if it means each guy plays 41.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 3 @ 12:41 AM ET
WOW. And I've been to St. John's, twice. Major major fail.
- mochoson

You've been to the one worth visiting of the two. No problem there. If the Sea Dogs were in Newfoundland, there'd be no reason for St. John, NB to exist.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

May 3 @ 12:43 AM ET
I'm not talking back-up duties. I'm talking you start Dubnyk, second he has a bad game (which is inevitable for a goalie), you play Khabbi. Go back and forth. Even if it means each guy plays 41.
- mochoson

Nope. Don't like it. Sitting a young goalie every time he has an off game is not good. He has to learn to play through those or he'll never be a full time starter. Fine for old balls Khabbi, destructive for on the cusp Dubnyk. Hate it.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:44 AM ET
You've been to the one worth visiting of the two. No problem there. If the Sea Dogs were in Newfoundland, there'd be no reason for St. John, NB to exist.
- Morris


It was a neat little town. Didn't seem like there was a ton going on, I enjoyed it. But then again, I live in Southern New Jersey. The quiet, laid back kind of atmosphere was probably more enjoyable for me compared to the normal person.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:46 AM ET
Nope. Don't like it. Sitting a young goalie every time he has an off game is not good. He has to learn to play through those or he'll never be a full time starter. Fine for old balls Khabbi, destructive for on the cusp Dubnyk. Hate it.
- GuyLaDouche


That's more mental. I understand the concept though, and definitely agree. It done't have to be every time, especially when Dubnyk understands how this game works and how a guy like Khabi making the money he is HAS to play.

Basically, I just see them splitting duties next year. Hopefully Khabi can play himself into a trade.

What would be amazing is if we somehow convinced Columbus to take him. I'd take back frickin Jared Boll.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 3 @ 12:46 AM ET
ok... almost there you need to take paul martin... we'll throw in a jitny driver on call 24/7 to be the walls designated driver... deal?
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

May 3 @ 12:46 AM ET
Two players that EDM needs to take a serious look at: Michael Neuvirth and Mike green.

Id throw a serious offer at WASH for these guys, and no, it doesn't include Yakupov.

- mochoson


I like the idea someone suggested Halak and Stewart for Hemsky+ to STL. Neuvirth is good too, I wonder is Holtby is better option, but maybe stock rose after these playoffs. Green or Carlson, I also like Carlson much more.

That's more mental. I understand the concept though, and definitely agree. It done't have to be every time, especially when Dubnyk understands how this game works and how a guy like Khabi making the money he is HAS to play.

Basically, I just see them splitting duties next year. Hopefully Khabi can play himself into a trade.

What would be amazing is if we somehow convinced Columbus to take him. I'd take back frickin Jared Boll.

- mochoson


stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

May 3 @ 12:46 AM ET
Nope. Don't like it. Sitting a young goalie every time he has an off game is not good. He has to learn to play through those or he'll never be a full time starter. Fine for old balls Khabbi, destructive for on the cusp Dubnyk. Hate it.
- GuyLaDouche

yeah i agree with this. that will screw with him mentally
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

May 3 @ 12:53 AM ET
That's more mental. I understand the concept though, and definitely agree. It done't have to be every time, especially when Dubnyk understands how this game works and how a guy like Khabi making the money he is HAS to play.

Basically, I just see them splitting duties next year. Hopefully Khabi can play himself into a trade.

What would be amazing is if we somehow convinced Columbus to take him. I'd take back frickin Jared Boll.

- mochoson

I hope for a 50-60 game campaign for Dubnyk in all honesty.

Agreed 1000% about the trade. Id take back their stick boy.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

May 3 @ 12:55 AM ET
I like the idea someone suggested Halak and Stewart for Hemsky+ to STL. Neuvirth is good too, I wonder is Holtby is better option, but maybe stock rose after these playoffs. Green or Carlson, I also like Carlson much more.




- deks1


Theres no way Halak or Elliot go anywhere. Elliot is not a starting goalie in this league. I dont care what anyone says. He's a talented guy, but theres at least 30 guys I take to play 45+ games before him.

Halak is a legit starter in this league, and one its most under-rated. That tandem won't be broken up. Anything to keep Jake Allen in the AHL for as long as he needs to be until he's ready.

I dont even know if Hemsky+ gets you Stewart.

Neuvirth much more realistic to acquire. Holtby, in all honesty, was always Washingtons future number one. Green is a guy who's value right now will never be lower, and could probably be had for pennies on the dollar.

Trust me, every team in the league wants Jon Carlson. You can't really get anymore untouchable then him, though.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

May 3 @ 12:58 AM ET
Theres no way Halak or Elliot go anywhere. Elliot is not a starting goalie in this league. I dont care what anyone says. He's a talented guy, but theres at least 30 guys I take to play 45+ games before him.

Halak is a legit starter in this league, and one its most under-rated. That tandem won't be broken up. Anything to keep Jake Allen in the AHL for as long as he needs to be until he's ready.

I dont even know if Hemsky+ gets you Stewart.

Neuvirth much more realistic to acquire. Holtby, in all honesty, was always Washingtons future number one. Green is a guy who's value right now will never be lower, and could probably be had for pennies on the dollar.

Trust me, every team in the league wants Jon Carlson. You can't really get anymore untouchable then him, though.

- mochoson

I agree. Carlson goes nowhere.
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