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Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 2 @ 1:01 PM ET
I'd by a bruthas jersey
- Killbot460

Oh ya there is that too, never know if you guys are being realistic or not.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
I dunno that we get Gleason away from Carolina. Maybe sign a guy like Bryan Allen or Barret Jackman to play some 2nd line minutes.

I also would rather Smyth and Jones on the 3rd line than PRV and Thor. At least for this year, they're a little green.

- Morris


I thought Gleason was a ufa.... doubt Jackman leaves the blues though.

I doubt Smyth will be back next year. I'd have either PRV/Thor playing with Horc and Jones though for sure
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
Oh ya there is that too, never know if you guys are being realistic or not.
- Lahey


well i have a peckham jersey haha
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
I thought Gleason was a ufa.... doubt Jackman leaves the blues though.

I doubt Smyth will be back next year. I'd have either PRV/Thor playing with Horc and Jones though for sure

- Killbot460

I'd rather them be our first callups. Unless we don't really care about being competitive again, which could be the case.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
well i have a peckham jersey haha
- Killbot460

Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 2 @ 1:06 PM ET
I'd rather them be our first callups. Unless we don't really care about being competitive again, which could be the case.
- Lahey


Are you saying if the oilers made the moves you suggested...... you'd have Jones/Horc/Hemmer as the 3rd line?
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 2 @ 1:06 PM ET
I thought Gleason was a ufa.... doubt Jackman leaves the blues though.

I doubt Smyth will be back next year. I'd have either PRV/Thor playing with Horc and Jones though for sure

- Killbot460

I don't know that I buy Smyth being a cancer or Smyth stalling the deal...tambelinni takes time to do everything. I think he'll be back. Whether he'll be effective as an 80 game player remains to be seen.

Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 2 @ 1:08 PM ET
I don't know that I buy Smyth being a cancer or Smyth stalling the deal...tambelinni takes time to do everything. I think he'll be back. Whether he'll be effective as an 80 game player remains to be seen.
- Morris


I'd give him a million for a 1 year max.... as the 13 forward. We need tough and mean mufukas out there. Like a tootoo or Boll type. Also wouldn't mind Reaves.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 2 @ 1:18 PM ET
You also forget that the guy is only 23 and is really just starting to come into his own. Don't forget, he gets very little powerplay time, yet still potted 25 goals in 62 games. Merely looking at stats also ignores how well he plays in his own zone and on the PK. He'll never be a throughbred scorer, but he has all the tools to be a modern day Ron Francis.
- Emperor Filonius

I don't think Staal is a bad player by any means but I wouldn't trade him for Yakupov by himself let alone with anything else
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

May 2 @ 1:21 PM ET
I'm more interested in Dan Winnik than Tootoo. He's a great penalty killer/two-way type that could play a shutdown role with Horcoff or Belanger. I think we need more of those player types as opposed to pests. At face value, one might argue that toughness gets you into the playoffs, but if you look at the teams left, they're chock full of two-way and defensive forwards.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 2 @ 1:24 PM ET
Are you saying if the oilers made the moves you suggested...... you'd have Jones/Horc/Hemmer as the 3rd line?
- Killbot460

Potentially yep.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 2 @ 1:26 PM ET
I'm more interested in Dan Winnik than Tootoo. He's a great penalty killer/two-way type that could play a shutdown role with Horcoff or Belanger. I think we need more of those player types as opposed to pests. At face value, one might argue that toughness gets you into the playoffs, but if you look at the teams left, they're chock full of two-way and defensive forwards.
- Jack-artist

Winnik we be a good add. He might be slightly more expensive than Tootoo this time around.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 2 @ 1:31 PM ET
Potentially yep.
- Lahey

It depends on what you could get for him in a trade. Jones has a decent shot in terms of people for Hemsky to pass to. And if we had toughness elsewhere, it wouldn't be a big deal to run him 14 minutes a game with 2-3 minutes of PP.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

May 2 @ 1:31 PM ET
Jordan Staal for Sam Gagner is laughable.

Jordan Staal for the #1 Pick is laughable.

i do think that EDM should consider moving the pick though.

still dreaming about seeing Eberle playing next to Crosby one day...

- SuperHenderson13


now that is laughable... Eberle is not going anywhere...
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 2 @ 1:32 PM ET
That would fix the team alright.

Do you mean Chris or Anthony Stewart? Even after his year this year, I don't know that we get Chris Stewart for that cheap.

And do you mean Jeff Schultz or the rights to Justin Schultz? Jeez, we're going for worldwide Schultz domination here.

I would be jacked to get Stoll back, I was really sad to see him go.

Stewart-Nuge-Eberle
Hall-Gagner-Yakupov
Smyth-Horcoff-Jones
Tootoo-Stoll-Eager

Whitney-Carle
Petry-Smid
Schultz-Schultz

is the best Oilers lineup in years. P.S. I acknowledge Hemsky isn't there. I'd assume if we acquired a couple of bangers and drafted Yak we'd flip Hemsky for fairest return possible.

- Morris

I'm all for this just to here commentators heads explode saying "Schultz to Schultz, Schultz passes it back to Schultz"
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

May 2 @ 1:34 PM ET
It depends on what you could get for him in a trade. Jones has a decent shot in terms of people for Hemsky to pass to. And if we had toughness elsewhere, it wouldn't be a big deal to run him 14 minutes a game with 2-3 minutes of PP.
- Morris

Hemsky at 3rd line RW probably wouldn't be a long-term solution, he'd eventually get moved.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 2 @ 1:40 PM ET
I'm all for this just to here commentators heads explode saying "Schultz to Schultz, Schultz passes it back to Schultz"
- freelancer


All we need is Montreal RW Ian Schultz, Washington Dman Jeff Schultz, prospect Justin Schultz, and free agents Jesse and Ray Schultz. David Schulz and Felix Schutz will be offered try outs.


Another little tidbit: Every NHLer named Ales has played for the Oilers.
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

May 2 @ 1:41 PM ET
If Staal is becoming an Oiler, Pens will want Yakupov coming back the other way.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

May 2 @ 1:43 PM ET
If Staal is becoming an Oiler, Pens will want Yakupov coming back the other way.
- Thehabsfan93

Sounds like Staal isn't becoming an Oiler then.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

May 2 @ 1:44 PM ET
All we need is Montreal RW Ian Schultz, Washington Dman Jeff Schultz, prospect Justin Schultz, and free agents Jesse and Ray Schultz. David Schulz and Felix Schutz will be offered try outs.


Another little tidbit: Every NHLer named Ales has played for the Oilers.

- Morris



Amazing, I did not know there were that many Schultz's playing in the NHL or system...
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

May 2 @ 1:45 PM ET
I'm all for this just to here commentators heads explode saying "Schultz to Schultz, Schultz passes it back to Schultz"
- freelancer



x 2.... That lineup looks refreshed and ready to kick ass... Irregardless of the name alerts....
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 2 @ 1:53 PM ET
Am I the only that feels Staal is overrated and always has been?
- GuyLaDouche


I also feel that way.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 2 @ 2:03 PM ET
I don't know that I buy Smyth being a cancer or Smyth stalling the deal...tambelinni takes time to do everything. I think he'll be back. Whether he'll be effective as an 80 game player remains to be seen.
- Morris


I don't know how credible CBC is, but they reported Tambo offered Smyth a deal exactly like Bertuzzi's, and Smyth quickly turned it down.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 2 @ 2:06 PM ET
now that is laughable... Eberle is not going anywhere...
- saskoil21


Eberle + PRV + 2012 first overall for Staal?

laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

May 2 @ 2:08 PM ET
If Staal is becoming an Oiler, Pens will want Yakupov coming back the other way.
- Thehabsfan93




SERIOUSLY!?!?!?
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