From Hockey's Future archives:
John Tavares
Prospect Grade: 9.0 C (About Prospect Grades)

10. Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Defense: Bobby Orr
Forward: Wayne Gretzky
Goaltender: Patrick Roy


9. Elite Talent - possesses the potential for greatness, a perennial All-Star throughout his career.

Defense: Nicklas Lidstrom, Zdeno Chara, Chris Pronger
Forward: Ilya Kovalchuk, Joe Thornton, Eric Staal
Goaltender: Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Henrik Lundqvist


8. First-Line Forward/ No. 2 Defenseman / No. 1 Goaltender - players with definite skill that might be just a cut below elite status, but still possessing All-Star potential.
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A - All but guaranteed to reach potential - 100 percent metaphysical certitude that the player will play up to his abilities as noted by his potential rating. In this case, the potential rating is multiplied by 100 percent for depth chart purposes, signaling that the player is a lock to reach his given potential.

B - Should reach potential, could drop 1 rating - likely to reach potential, but may have a hole or two in his game that will keep him from reaching his full potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 90 percent for depth chart purposes, which indicates slightly less certainty about a player’s future performance.

C - May reach potential, could drop 2 ratings - has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 80 percent for depth chart purposes to show the uncertainty of a player reaching his potential.

BTW: NINO and STROME are the only Isles prospects that garnisheed a rating of 8.0 and a C from HockeysFuture.com. Every other prospect is ranked Lower.

From Hockey's Future archives:
John Tavares
Prospect Grade: 9.0 C (About Prospect Grades)

10. Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Defense: Bobby Orr
Forward: Wayne Gretzky
Goaltender: Patrick Roy


9. Elite Talent - possesses the potential for greatness, a perennial All-Star throughout his career.

Defense: Nicklas Lidstrom, Zdeno Chara, Chris Pronger
Forward: Ilya Kovalchuk, Joe Thornton, Eric Staal
Goaltender: Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Henrik Lundqvist


8. First-Line Forward/ No. 2 Defenseman / No. 1 Goaltender - players with definite skill that might be just a cut below elite status, but still possessing All-Star potential.
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A - All but guaranteed to reach potential - 100 percent metaphysical certitude that the player will play up to his abilities as noted by his potential rating. In this case, the potential rating is multiplied by 100 percent for depth chart purposes, signaling that the player is a lock to reach his given potential.

B - Should reach potential, could drop 1 rating - likely to reach potential, but may have a hole or two in his game that will keep him from reaching his full potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 90 percent for depth chart purposes, which indicates slightly less certainty about a player’s future performance.

C - May reach potential, could drop 2 ratings - has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 80 percent for depth chart purposes to show the uncertainty of a player reaching his potential.

BTW: NINO and STROME are the only Isles prospects that garnisheed a rating of 8.0 and a C from HockeysFuture.com. Every other prospect is ranked Lower.
- SCLI

That Nino got an 8.0 and C doesn't speak well of the accurcy of that scale (before everyone goes nuts, I'm not calling Nino a bust, just that he had a morbid 1st season). Anyway, lets focus on something important, like when (or if) Petrov will sign his ELC?

That Nino got an 8.0 and C doesn't speak well of the accurcy of that scale (before everyone goes nuts, I'm not calling Nino a bust, just that he had a morbid 1st season). Anyway, lets focus on something important, like when (or if) Petrov will sign his ELC?
- Jethro09

Patience...Snow's probably just getting around to reading Chief's post on page 1 that his KHL contract is up today.

That Nino got an 8.0 and C doesn't speak well of the accurcy of that scale (before everyone goes nuts, I'm not calling Nino a bust, just that he had a morbid 1st season). Anyway, lets focus on something important, like when (or if) Petrov will sign his ELC?
- Jethro09

OR leave it to the experts that have watched the guy and that there is in fact hope that this year was a learning experience of sorts and that we shouldnt be jumping off the ledge because of 1 terrible offensive season....

and yes, whats with petrov, was just reading up on him on Hockeysfuture.com; the guy sounds like he has all the right stuff, just needs to put it all together-- we need that physicality

I replaced Strome with KO because of the reports/rumors last season that the Oilers had interest in KO. The Oilers say they have enough, quick, high skilled, forwards and were looking to add a player with bit more size to muck it up along the boards and chip in some offense. Its also been said they need "D".
Besides,
If this kid Nail is as good as advertized. I would have no problem sweetening the pot a bit.

What I really find baffling is that, only a yr or so ago. Nearly everyone was touting how deep this draft is. Three or four terrific forward prospects and overwhelming in "D" prospects.

Now!

It seems to be its either Nail, Mikhail or Fail.

After laboring thru another Islander season. I dont believe we'll be appreciably better this coming season. The young guys in Bridgeport and in Jr's arent going to put us over the top next season. Our "D" prospects? If brought up will need a yr at least to adjust. I dont see any "O" at Bridgeport to help. Most of our better prospects are years away. And I hope we dont rush Strome.

And for the 3rd strait season we'll be asking the same IF Questions! ! If KO becomes consistent and more physical. If Bailey can put it together for more than a week at a time. If we acquire a #2 or #3 "D" man and a Veteran presence. If Grabner scores 30 goals. If we can get consistent goal tending. We need more definite's and less If's.

IMO. Our only hope is to have enough fire power to outscore our opposition. Maybe a kid like Nail (if as good as advertized) paired with JT and signing PAP for the 2nd line, could give us enough "O" to realistically compete for that 8th spot.
Nabby in goal, 2 Quality scoring lines and a physical, defensively sound, 4th line of Casey Cizikas, Haley and Martin may give us enough to overcome our deficiencies at "D" and give us slim chance.
Otherwise. I say no shot at all.
Thats reason enough to move up for Nail.
- SCLI

Every year its the same thing with the draft, everyone saying its going to be the deepest in years and the top five players are cant misses, etc. Usually around Feb the scouts start ripping apart all these kids games and the order flips except for the consensus number one(usually). This draft seems more upside down than usual? We'll see?
As far as this team next year I think you're dead on accurate, get ready for more of the same, anyone who thinks any different has their heads up their respected asses. Charlie(Snows interview wasn't exactly uplifting either) even came on TV to tell of his "fans" to expect more of the same for anyone who needed any proof. This team without any outside help is going no where. Expecting Bailey, Macdonald, and Okposo to all of a sudden be consistent is unrealistic and expecting Ulstrom and Cizikas to step in and play an enormous enough roll to thrust them into the playoffs is a stretch.
I'm not sold on Nabakov in any sense of the word like some are on here either, between his injuries and inconsistent play I'm not expecting much. He was our best option, I'm aware but to think he has what it takes to carry this team with its swiss cheese defense and complete lack of grit is a joke.

From Hockey's Future archives:
John Tavares
Prospect Grade: 9.0 C (About Prospect Grades)

10. Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Defense: Bobby Orr
Forward: Wayne Gretzky
Goaltender: Patrick Roy


9. Elite Talent - possesses the potential for greatness, a perennial All-Star throughout his career.

Defense: Nicklas Lidstrom, Zdeno Chara, Chris Pronger
Forward: Ilya Kovalchuk, Joe Thornton, Eric Staal
Goaltender: Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Henrik Lundqvist


8. First-Line Forward/ No. 2 Defenseman / No. 1 Goaltender - players with definite skill that might be just a cut below elite status, but still possessing All-Star potential.
__________________________________________________________

A - All but guaranteed to reach potential - 100 percent metaphysical certitude that the player will play up to his abilities as noted by his potential rating. In this case, the potential rating is multiplied by 100 percent for depth chart purposes, signaling that the player is a lock to reach his given potential.

B - Should reach potential, could drop 1 rating - likely to reach potential, but may have a hole or two in his game that will keep him from reaching his full potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 90 percent for depth chart purposes, which indicates slightly less certainty about a player’s future performance.

C - May reach potential, could drop 2 ratings - has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 80 percent for depth chart purposes to show the uncertainty of a player reaching his potential.

BTW: NINO and STROME are the only Isles prospects that garnisheed a rating of 8.0 and a C from HockeysFuture.com. Every other prospect is ranked Lower.
- SCLI

Don't tell some on here that! We have one of the best prospect pools in the NHL!

Patience...Snow's probably just getting around to reading Chief's post on page 1 that his KHL contract is up today.
- UIF

That Nino got an 8.0 and C doesn't speak well of the accurcy of that scale (before everyone goes nuts, I'm not calling Nino a bust, just that he had a morbid 1st season). Anyway, lets focus on something important, like when (or if) Petrov will sign his ELC?
- Jethro09

It was a great year for Nino, he was learning the defensive side of the game!

That Nino got an 8.0 and C doesn't speak well of the accurcy of that scale (before everyone goes nuts, I'm not calling Nino a bust, just that he had a morbid 1st season). Anyway, lets focus on something important, like when (or if) Petrov will sign his ELC?
- Jethro09

I don't particularly put a ton of stock in that website, but that's just my personal opinion.

Anyway...Petrov's KHL contract expired yesterday so I would hope that Garth is on the phone with Kirill's agent starting to get an idea of his intentions. ELC's are pretty simple and straightforward so I don't think there will be much negotiating to be done outside of bonuses. I saw news today that Kuznestov has agreed to a new 2 year contract to stay in the KHL, so let's hope that Petrov doesn't follow suit.

Patience...Snow's probably just getting around to reading Chief's post on page 1 that his KHL contract is up today.
- UIF

That Nino got an 8.0 and C doesn't speak well of the accurcy of that scale (before everyone goes nuts, I'm not calling Nino a bust, just that he had a morbid 1st season). Anyway, lets focus on something important, like when (or if) Petrov will sign his ELC?
- Jethro09

It did make me take notice.

I don't particularly put a ton of stock in that website, but that's just my personal opinion.

Anyway...Petrov's KHL contract expired yesterday so I would hope that Garth is on the phone with Kirill's agent starting to get an idea of his intentions. ELC's are pretty simple and straightforward so I don't think there will be much negotiating to be done outside of bonuses. I saw news today that Kuznestov has agreed to a new 2 year contract to stay in the KHL, so let's hope that Petrov doesn't follow suit.
- eichiefs9

I hope so too, but I'm thinking he would be best suited in Bridgeport adjusting to the North American game next year. I don't think he'll be an NHL'er next season. Feels like he's gonna be 40 by the time he dresses in an Isles uniform; that's if a contract gets done.

I hope so too, but I'm thinking he would be best suited in Bridgeport adjusting to the North American game next year. I don't think he'll be an NHL'er next season. Feels like he's gonna be 40 by the time he dresses in an Isles uniform; that's if a contract gets done.
- Charlie21

Why would he need to adjust in Bridgeport when he can always gain valuable NHL fourth-line experience playing on Marty Reasoner's wing? It's worked well enough for our other power forward prospect.

Why would he need to adjust in Bridgeport when he can always gain valuable NHL fourth-line experience playing on Marty Reasoner's wing? It's worked well enough for our other power forward prospect.
- UIF

Yeah, it worked great, Nino "learned the defensive side of the game" playing with the likes of Reasoner, now its Petrovs turn

I hope so too, but I'm thinking he would be best suited in Bridgeport adjusting to the North American game next year. I don't think he'll be an NHL'er next season. Feels like he's gonna be 40 by the time he dresses in an Isles uniform; that's if a contract gets done.
- Charlie21

It's definitely a possibility. My guess is that if he started the year in Bridgeport (and didn't suck) that he'd eventually be up on the big club. Okposo-Nielsen-Petrov wouldn't be a bad place for him to start. My (and I assume everyone's) hope is that he'll eventually be JT's RW.

Yeah, it worked great, Nino "learned the defensive side of the game" playing with the likes of Reasoner, now its Petrovs turn
- Cptmjl

The trials and tribulations of being an Islander fan.

The trials and tribulations of being an Islander fan.
- Charlie21

I'll never not find humor in people on here saying the reasoning for Nino being on that line and getting five minutes a game was to learn "the defensive side of the game" from Reasoner, it always gives me a chuckle. The excuses made for ineptness with this team boggles the mind. Wonder if they think it'd be a good idea for Petrov too?

@JohnLuTSNMtl: Canada: Burrows-Benn-Perry; Purcell-Nugent-Hopkins-Eberle;Skinner-Tavares- Sharp; Kane-O'Reilly-Ladd; Mitchell #WHC

I can't believe Moulson couldn't make this team over guys like Purcell, O'Reilly, Ladd and Mitchell.

Also, Tavares just scored.
- eichiefs9

How benn and RNH is above JT is beyond me.

From Hockey's Future archives:
John Tavares
Prospect Grade: 9.0 C (About Prospect Grades)

10. Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Defense: Bobby Orr
Forward: Wayne Gretzky
Goaltender: Patrick Roy


9. Elite Talent - possesses the potential for greatness, a perennial All-Star throughout his career.

Defense: Nicklas Lidstrom, Zdeno Chara, Chris Pronger
Forward: Ilya Kovalchuk, Joe Thornton, Eric Staal
Goaltender: Martin Brodeur, Roberto Luongo, Henrik Lundqvist


8. First-Line Forward/ No. 2 Defenseman / No. 1 Goaltender - players with definite skill that might be just a cut below elite status, but still possessing All-Star potential.
__________________________________________________________

A - All but guaranteed to reach potential - 100 percent metaphysical certitude that the player will play up to his abilities as noted by his potential rating. In this case, the potential rating is multiplied by 100 percent for depth chart purposes, signaling that the player is a lock to reach his given potential.

B - Should reach potential, could drop 1 rating - likely to reach potential, but may have a hole or two in his game that will keep him from reaching his full potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 90 percent for depth chart purposes, which indicates slightly less certainty about a player’s future performance.

C - May reach potential, could drop 2 ratings - has shown some flashes, but may ultimately not have what it takes to reach his potential. The potential rating is multiplied by 80 percent for depth chart purposes to show the uncertainty of a player reaching his potential.

BTW: NINO and STROME are the only Isles prospects that garnisheed a rating of 8.0 and a C from HockeysFuture.com. Every other prospect is ranked Lower.
- SCLI

To bad we didn't pick Krieder at 12 instead of deHaan...

I'll never not find humor in people on here saying the reasoning for Nino being on that line and getting five minutes a game was to learn "the defensive side of the game" from Reasoner, it always gives me a chuckle. The excuses made for ineptness with this team boggles the mind. Wonder if they think it'd be a good idea for Petrov too?
- Cptmjl

All while our friends in Manhattan give Kreider all the productive minutes they can with veteran players. They had that kid on the ice the other night while Ottawa's goalie was pulled in a playoff game! Not to mention I think it was his 2nd or 3rd NHL game. Nino, get's thrown on the 4th line for an entire season to kill his confidence. WTF?!?!

To bad we didn't pick Krieder at 12 instead of deHaan...
- kear20

Kreider looks good, I was thinking Kassian then honestly. DeHaan was and still is a reach of a pick. Gotta give credit where credit is due, Rangers have been making some excellent picks for quite some time now.

All while our friends in Manhattan give Kreider all the productive minutes they can with veteran players. They had that kid on the ice the other night while Ottawa's goalie was pulled in a playoff game! Not to mention I think it was his 2nd or 3rd NHL game. Nino, get's thrown on the 4th line for an entire season to kill his confidence. WTF?!?!
- Charlie21

It boggles the mind. I honestly was a bit shocked by how much confidence the coaching staff has had in Kreider but obviously they know a hell of alot more than I do and its paid off for them. I say good for them, the Rangers have built a good team and they've finally learned to do it the right way. Can't hate them for that. Drafting well, not trading picks and adding good vets as well as role players. Snow would do himself and the fanbase a favor if he paid attention to what the Rangers are doing. Sather since the Drury/Gomez(lmao)signings has done an incredible job between his drafting, trades, signings, hiring Torterella, etc.

Kreider looks good, I was thinking Kassian then honestly. DeHaan was and still is a reach of a pick. Gotta give credit where credit is due, Rangers have been making some excellent picks for quite some time now.
- Cptmjl

Over the past five years at this time it seems the Rangers at their draft position have drafted better than the Islanders have at their draft position.

Yes that DP kid developed into quite the Player
- mighty13duck

Gonna shock the world this year!!!

XxNYIxX

Exactly..it's not demeaning to him to say he isn't, and never was going to be, generational talent. Crosby was literally the only person in the last longgggg time to be considered "generational talent" coming into their draft year.

In fact, if you ever look at hockeysfuture.com's player ranking system, this is how they define generational talent (a 10 on their scale):


10. Generational Talent - a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Defense: Bobby Orr
Forward: Wayne Gretzky
Goaltender: Rick DiPietro

Johnny's a sick player but not on the level of any of those guys.
- eichiefs9

XxNYIxX