I don't know why we are getting into such a discussion with TO fans and EDM .

CBJs want to unload Nash and talks of Brassard.
THey desperately need a goalie.

LU Booth Ballard Raymonds rights for Nash and Brassard.

Or they could trade with TO as Ian suggests for Kadri Schenn Reimer and 5 th overall.

If I am CBJ I know which deal I am taking.

I don't know why we are getting into such a discussion with TO fans and EDM .

CBJs want to unload Nash and talks of Brassard.
THey desperately need a goalie.

LU Booth Ballard Raymonds rights for Nash and Brassard.

Or they could trade with TO as Ian suggests for Kadri Schenn Reimer and 5 th overall.

If I am CBJ I know which deal I am taking.
- VANTEL

you are on glue if you think toronto would trade all those assets for that contract. Plus Luongo can decline to waive for Columbus - which i assume he would.

you are on glue if you think toronto would trade all those assets for that contract. Plus Luongo can decline to waive for Columbus - which i assume he would.
- steve362

And you know this how?


So you would not trade Reimer Kadri Schenn and a 5 th for Nash and Brassard?What would your offer be?

And you know this how?


So you would not trade Reimer Kadri Schenn and a 5 th for Nash and Brassard?What would your offer be?
- VANTEL

#1 - sorry I thought you meant for Luongo

#2 - The fifth overall should be untouchable

M Broduer .913 2.23

Luongo .919 2.52

Patrick Roy .910 2.54
- VANTEL

I'm sorry, are you comparing Luongo to four time Stanley Cup, three time Conn Symth and three time Vezina winner and hall of famer Patrick Roy? Or even with three time stanley Cup, two time gold medal winner, four time vezina winner and future hall of famer Martin Brodeur?

I stood by that deal when it was made and I still stand by it today. The reason and the ONLY reason people wanna bash the trade is because the Leafs ended up finishing 2nd last. If they were even middle of the pack that season, there would be no debate about it.
- Phenom

That's exactly why it was a dumb deal. There's no point in trading away that many draft picks for a scoring winger when the deal won't help your team get into the playoffs before the picks you traded are NHL ready. But hey, you got to see a guy score 30+ for three seasons on a non-playoff team, and that's got to count for something.

I'm sorry, are you comparing Luongo to four time Stanley Cup, three time Conn Symth and three time Vezina winner and hall of famer Patrick Roy? Or even with three time stanley Cup, two time gold medal winner, four time vezina winner and future hall of famer Martin Brodeur?
- Cape Breton Bruins

I suggest you go read the original post when the poster said do not look at image and compare numbers only . I pointed out that numbers do not always speak the truth .Thanks for coming.

I suggest you go read the original post when the poster said do not look at image and compare numbers only . I pointed out that numbers do not always speak the truth .Thanks for coming.
- VANTEL

So to answer your question....No he was not comparing them

I suggest you go read the original post when the poster said do not look at image and compare numbers only . I pointed out that numbers do not always speak the truth .Thanks for coming.
- VANTEL

ohhhhhh you so sassy.

#1 - sorry I thought you meant for Luongo

#2 - The fifth overall should be untouchable
- steve362

I thought you misread it.

See to get Nash you need at least a player ,a pick and a prospect.The CBJs have no interest in Reimer I am sure. I was pointing out to Ian that he thinks TO will steal the Nash trade with an overpayment by Burke. I think an overpayment with 3 salary dumps is a lot more attractive to CB than Schen Kadri and the 5 th.

Canucks are not defensively minded.... they give up about as many 2 on 1s... 3 on 1s and breakaways as about any team in the league.

Hes already proven he can carry a team on his back into the playoffs and past the 1st round single handedly... his first year here he had almost no scoring support.. and should have won the Hart... at the very least the Vezina.

This team won the Jennings last year because of how well Lu/ Schneider played... and that this team is a puck possession team (much like detroit)... they still give up a ton of quality scoring chances though.
- kneughter

Ya Luongo definitely should have won the Vezna that year. Brodeur had a great year but the Canucks roster was just so bad. I can't beleive they actually made it to the second round that year. They should have been in line for a lottery pick. He literally carried them.

So to answer your question....No he was not comparing them
- steve362

I was pointing out to the poster demanding to show numbers,that numbers don't always show the truth.

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My Custom Lineup

FORWARDS
Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / David Booth ($4.250m)
Ryan Malone ($4.500m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / Zach Parise ($6.750m)
Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m)
Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) / Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m)
Zenon Konopka ($0.850m) /

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Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m)
Bryan Allen ($2.250m) / Alexander Edler ($3.250m)
Sami Salo ($1.000m) / Keith Ballard ($4.200m)
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Cory Schneider ($3.250m)
Eddie Lack ($0.660m)
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This is a dream scenario for me... Malone isn't my first choice... Id rather sign Ray Whitney... so if Tampa can lose salary without giving it to us.. then I would be happy. But realistically we have to take back salary from tampa.

Id be happy with either winnik... parros.. or konopka between 800 grand and 1 million for that 4th line toughness. I put the cap at 68 million.... some are speculation 70 million.. but 68 seems more plausible.

I was pointing out to the poster demanding to show numbers,that numbers don't always show the truth.
- VANTEL

Je comprende

I would not expect an Isles fan to have a clue about good goaltending contracts.
- VANTEL

Thanks for pretty much admitting I'm right. Resorting to stupid, old jokes about my team does not take away the fact that you guys have a 33 year old goaltender locked up for like 10 more years, and apparently still think you have all the bargaining power LOL.

I'm sorry, are you comparing Luongo to four time Stanley Cup, three time Conn Symth and three time Vezina winner and hall of famer Patrick Roy? Or even with three time stanley Cup, two time gold medal winner, four time vezina winner and future hall of famer Martin Brodeur?
- Cape Breton Bruins

I'm not arguing with you, you're right...but I would've liked to have seen Brodeur's accomplishments playing for Flordia and the mid 2000 Canucks. Obviously Brodeur has had a way better career but he's played on way better teams. The Canucks were an amazing team in 2010/2011 but just couldn't score against the Bruins. I dont put the blame on Luongo.

I thought you misread it.

See to get Nash you need at least a player ,a pick and a prospect.The CBJs have no interest in Reimer I am sure. I was pointing out to Ian that he thinks TO will steal the Nash trade with an overpayment by Burke. I think an overpayment with 3 salary dumps is a lot more attractive to CB than Schen Kadri and the 5 th.
- VANTEL

Schenn and Kadri are grossly overrated but Leafs cannot afford to trade away a franchise player before they draft him.

They will want more talent taking up that cap space than Komi though. Vancouver is in their three year window, right now. Spinning wheels on $4.5mm of Komisarek doesn't make sense to them at all, IMO.
- nfph

I agree with you. Just using Komi as an example of why Vancouver would take salary back in any deal for Luongo.

I'm not arguing with you, you're right...but I would've liked to have seen Brodeur's accomplishments playing for Flordia and the mid 2000 Canucks. Obviously Brodeur has had a way better career but he's played on way better teams. The Canucks were an amazing team in 2010/2011 but just couldn't score against the Bruins. I dont put the blame on Luongo.
- Boinker

Thanks for pretty much admitting I'm right. Resorting to stupid, old jokes about my team does not take away the fact that you guys have a 33 year old goaltender locked up for like 10 more years, and apparently still think you have all the bargaining power LOL.
- isles10289

No I was pointing out a team paying a goalie 4.5 mil for 15 years who has played 15 games so far should not be criticizing other teams goalie contracts. Your owner is the most stupid owner in the history of the game .Every contract is movable and as an Isle fan there should be no team more aware of that.

I think it's a stretch to call Kadri a top prospect at this point.
- Jeffmt

Anywhere other than Toronto he would be. As much as Leaf fans overvalue their players, everyone else undervalues them.

Schenn is a 5/6 Defensive minded defenseman who can't play defense.... we don't want him
- kneughter

He's also 22- I must have forgotten defensemen always develop fully in the first couple of years. You're never getting him in a deal for Luongo. Ian and other fans here who think they could get that are crazy. He's still a good goaltender, but he's 33 with 10 years remaining on his contract.

Schenn and Kadri are grossly overrated but Leafs cannot afford to trade away a franchise player before they draft him.
- steve362

I agree about Schenn and Kadri .

You have to trade a player that has never played a NHL game for a franchise team Canada player.Nash is top 25 in the world. The guy you draft may never work out.

I don't know why we are getting into such a discussion with TO fans and EDM .

CBJs want to unload Nash and talks of Brassard.
THey desperately need a goalie.

LU Booth Ballard Raymonds rights for Nash and Brassard.

Or they could trade with TO as Ian suggests for Kadri Schenn Reimer and 5 th overall.

If I am CBJ I know which deal I am taking.
- VANTEL

Does Luongo have a NTC?

It's a good idea using Columbus has a trade partner, but I think we can all assume Luongo, who is aging, will not waive his no trade to go to Columbus. But yeah Nash for Luongo, you can dream.