kneughter
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Itd more about the term, not the money. Im sure u know this.
Of course lu's proven more, and at this point is still prob better.
And i dont think too many people will debates lu's value is that far off 5.3 mil.
And if the term was 2-3 years, even 5, ud have many suitors im sure.
But ten years is just ridiculous. And too hard to take for most teams. Especially that hes already in his 30's.
If your uncomfortable with paying both top dollar to cory as well, then deal schneids. You'll get plenty in return. Interested? .....Exactly. And everyone knows this.
Deal lu's contract for whatever u can, take that money to sign schneids to a lesser team and ull still have some leftover. And be grateful - hugefemale dog77
The term isnt as bad as people make it out to be.... look at the year by year dollar amount... when Lou is 39... and most likely going to be relegated to backup duties... do you think a guy as competetive as Lu will sit on the bench for 60+ games to make 1 million dollars? Not a chance.... Gillis is a smart guy... and created a contract that was circumventing the cap. Lu is going to play until 40 at the latest...UNLESS he is still a number 1 guy playing on a competetive team. And then in that case he will be worth the cap hit.
about 90 percent of his contract is paid out by 2018... he won't stick around for those final 3-4 years. |
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Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL Joined: 07.27.2009
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The term isnt as bad as people make it out to be.... look at the year by year dollar amount... when Lou is 39... and most likely going to be relegated to backup duties... do you think a guy as competetive as Lu will sit on the bench for 60+ games to make 1 million dollars? Not a chance.... Gillis is a smart guy... and created a contract that was circumventing the cap. Lu is going to play until 40 at the latest...UNLESS he is still a number 1 guy playing on a competetive team. And then in that case he will be worth the cap hit.
about 90 percent of his contract is paid out by 2018... he won't stick around for those final 3-4 years. - kneughter
The challenge though is that that is still like six years at the $5MM+ cap hit. Still a limited number of teams that could work for.
I wouldn't count Tallon out in bringing him to Florida. He paid Huet $5.6MM |
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kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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I just see Canuck fans crying over booting Luongo out of town after Schneider gets his first full year as a starter. Completely different to come in as the focal point of a "stanley cup contending" team and take on the entire load.
Dumb to move Luongo. - ejeezy
the caution is fair... I agree to a point.
It is a whole different beast to go from 30 games to 70 games. But as stated before.. Lack is a solid goalie and can handle a handful of games. They may also look at signing a backup goalie who has a little more veteran presence.
It is a gamble.. but Lu has had his opportunity and the team needs to give a chance to someone else.
That being said... I won't be disappointed with keeping either goalie personally. |
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kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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The challenge though is that that is still like six years at the $5MM+ cap hit. Still a limited number of teams that could work for.
I wouldn't count Tallon out in bringing him to Florida. He paid Huet $5.6MM - Return of the Roar
True... but he still has 3-4 good years left in him... possibly more. Tampa is the most realistic... maybe NJ... with an outside chance of Columbus.
All could afford him... with some minor tweeks for Tampa. I imagine a team like tampa who feels they are only a goalie away from really competing. |
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Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL Joined: 07.27.2009
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True... but he still has 3-4 good years left in him... possibly more. Tampa is the most realistic... maybe NJ... with an outside chance of Columbus.
All could afford him... with some minor tweeks for Tampa. I imagine a team like tampa who feels they are only a goalie away from really competing. - kneughter
Tampa's challenge will be resigning an entire line of forwards and two more D guys as well as a goalie. |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Its the cap hit for ten years. Not the actual pay.
And i never said hes completely untradeable.
His market will be small, but u could find some willing.
And i agree tampa seems likely.
Just dont expect much value back |
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TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Burnaby, BC Joined: 06.30.2006
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Enough to know I'm right. - Return of the Roar
Him being a Leaf fan automatically makes you smarter than him. I thought Canuck Nation was bit delusional, but we dont hold a candle to Leaf fans in that regard. SMH. |
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kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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Tampa's challenge will be resigning an entire line of forwards and two more D guys as well as a goalie. - Return of the Roar
Did you see colorado? I think they only have like 6 players signed for next year |
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Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL Joined: 07.27.2009
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Him being a Leaf fan automatically makes you smarter than him. I thought Canuck Nation was bit delusional, but we dont hold a candle to Leaf fans in that regard. SMH. - TLinden16
I feel bad for Leaf fans. They need a real GM. I have a soft spot for all of the original six brethren.
BTW, when is a real Vancouver Canuck like Linden going to come out of hiding and help turn things around up there...? |
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kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: “yup call came in, but as pe Joined: 07.14.2009
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Its the cap hit for ten years. Not the actual pay. - hugefemale dog77
Right... but Lu is competitive enough to only play to the point where he is worth that cap hit.
Worst case... he could also be burried in the minors... if thats what it comes down to in 4-5 years. |
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Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL Joined: 07.27.2009
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Did you see colorado? I think they only have like 6 players signed for next year - kneughter
They confuse me. They were close to being a real deal team and for the second year in a row they blow out a lot of their talent....
Sure would not mind seeing Steve Downie in the Indianhead playing on Toews and Kane's line. |
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Its the cap hit for ten years. Not the actual pay.
And i never said hes completely untradeable.
His market will be small, but u could find some willing.
And i agree tampa seems likely.
Just dont expect much value back - hugefemale dog77
I don't see much value in your post. |
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TLinden16
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Burnaby, BC Joined: 06.30.2006
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I just see Canuck fans crying over booting Luongo out of town after Schneider gets his first full year as a starter. Completely different to come in as the focal point of a "stanley cup contending" team and take on the entire load.
Dumb to move Luongo. - ejeezy
Good point. I think people are failing to see the other side of the coin. And that's the fact that they could still move Schneids. No one posting here, unless one of you is an NHL GM, knows what the market is going to dictate for the Lu or Schneider. Next few months should be interesting indeed |
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Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks |
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Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL Joined: 07.27.2009
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Good point. I think people are failing to see the other side of the coin. And that's the fact that they could still move Schneids. No one posting here, unless one of you is an NHL GM, knows what the market is going to dictate for the Lu or Schneider. Next few months should be interesting indeed - TLinden16
Wonder what Gillis could get for Schneider's RFA rights in a trade...?
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Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC Joined: 06.10.2009
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Wonder what Gillis could get for Schneider's RFA rights in a trade...? - Return of the Roar
Toews, Seabrook and a 1st. |
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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And schneider down too....
Whatever... I'm sick of people who didn't even watch the series... or much of vancouver for that matter... and they give their opinions of Lu.
Guess what... GM's don't give a poop of the perception of a player... or what kind of "reputation" fans give them. They have scouts and other people who know hockey and can give real unbiased facts and opinions.
Yzerman obviously thinks very highly of Lu when he selected him for the olympics... even though everyone thought Ward should have been selected... and everyone was already calling it quits for canada when they lost to the US and Lu was put in. And then to top it off.... when Lu won the gold... everyone stating the team was soooo stacked it wouldn't have mattered who was in it. WOW - kneughter
He's an easy guy to cast in the role of a villain—a bit cocky, a bit greasy looking, and the fact that he plays for the Canucks, the most arrogant team in the NHL (according to many fans), doesn't help. The whole "Canada won the gold in spite of him" is BS. He let in a few weak goals, but they don't get past the Slovaks without him, which means they wouldn't have even made the gold medal game.
Luongo has his flaws, but it's hard to argue the body of work he's put together over his entire career. I think the GM's, as well as his peers, still hold his abilities in high regard. He'll get a decent return, but the Canucks may have to take back some $$. |
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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Toews, Seabrook and a 1st. - Scooby_Doo
Who would the Canucks have as a backup? They'd have to throw in Salak for a conditional 6th rounder. |
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They confuse me. They were close to being a real deal team and for the second year in a row they blow out a lot of their talent....
Sure would not mind seeing Steve Downie in the Indianhead playing on Toews and Kane's line. - Return of the Roar
That guy is a hockey player |
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Who would the Canucks have as a backup? They'd have to throw in Salak for a conditional 6th rounder. - Fosco
Cannata or Lack... |
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lkeh73
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: London, ON Joined: 04.29.2012
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One person on here claimed he wouldn't trade kesler for weber... and you take that as a legitimate trade proposal? and not one person agreed with it... in fact 2 canucks fans stated it would take more than kesler for weber.
It would be way way too easy for me to post ridiculous statements that 1 idiot leafs fans have made and act like its a general concensus among all leafs fans... cause we all know there are some real doozies. - kneughter
Lol, exactly. I said my personal opinion, and it was taken way out of hand. Some people just like to exaggerate. |
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Canucks have 3 major needs this coming off season.
1) legitimate top 6 player.... Parise is number one on my list. Whitney #2
2) A real shut down guy to support Hamhuis... Jackman will be #1... Allen #2
3) A real physical 4th liner who can fight, hit, and contribute occasionally. Konopka, Parros, Jackman and Winnik.. any one of them would be great.
Nash is overrated for the amount of money he is making... if canucks can't get parise or whitney... and the best available trade for Lu is Columbus then yes.
The only other scenario which would make me confident about winning next year would be... signing whitney and suter. So either parise and jackman/allen. Or whitney and suter.
Jensen, Kassian, Schultz and Schroeder is too much inexperience in the line up. I'm not saying its a terrible idea... I just think you are putting too much into a whole lot of unproven players. - kneughter
Jensen is still a year away.Kassian may need a year too on the Wolves. Schultz is compared to twice as ready as Gardiner. So Shroeder is the big question mark.I think they can take a chance on him playing 3 rd line center and bring him along.I like going after allen ond/or Jackman |
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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Cannata or Lack... - I-own_da-Northwest
It wasn't being serious. |
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It wasn't being serious. - Fosco
Hard to tell...with so much T-O self-inflation residue here...nothing seems serious
I guess jealousy is truly flattering |
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annoyance_101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: I am not a troll, I am not a t Joined: 07.16.2006
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Fosco
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC Joined: 12.08.2007
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