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Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Apr 27 @ 12:59 PM ET
Talbot had to have a root canal after the mishap yesterday. He's OK now. It was from a shot by Carle ("good thing it was him -- it was a muffin") but deflected by Wellwood ("I'll get him back").
- bmeltzer

I love muffins
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:00 PM ET
will never understand this line of thinking. it's the player judged to be the most valuable to his team. but because tampa is mostly brutal besides stamkos, that somehow devalues the fact that he scored 25% of his team's goals? i think it makes it more impressive, imo.
- OrangeBlack27


That's why they have the Ted Lindsay award, bro.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 27 @ 1:02 PM ET
That's why they have the Ted Lindsay award, bro.
- bradleyc4


again--same award, just a different set of voters.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
again--same award, just a different set of voters.
- OrangeBlack27


Malkin's winning the Hart, regardless.

Malkin has the Hart, Giroux has the heart.

/runs away
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
Talbot had to have a root canal after the mishap yesterday. He's OK now. It was from a shot by Carle ("good thing it was him -- it was a muffin") but deflected by Wellwood ("I'll get him back").
- bmeltzer

I missed this mishap.

lol @ muffin

Bill, are you going to do a round two preview on WHYY with Dave Heller?
Tell him hello for me if you do. Dave is hysterical, I don't know if that side of him comes out when's he's working.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
Jagr, Schenn, and Simmonds are all -3.
- MJL


The Flyers gave up 10 goals in 1 game. And?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
I missed this mishap.

lol @ muffin

Bill, are you going to do a round two preview on WHYY with Dave Heller?
Tell him hello for me if you do. Dave is hysterical, I don't know if that side of him comes out when's he's working.

- Marc D


Don't know. I will certainly try to if I'm invited (as long as schedule works out). Dave was very nice.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Apr 27 @ 1:09 PM ET
All these snubs are good motivation, IMO
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:15 PM ET
All these snubs are good motivation, IMO
- Deasr1


Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 27 @ 1:18 PM ET
I missed this mishap.
- Marc D


I didn't see it when it happened, either. I was watching other end of ice at the time. Lisa Hillary saw it happen and immediately alerted everyone that Talbot had taken a puck to the face and was skating off.

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 27 @ 1:23 PM ET


>>>>>>

mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 27 @ 1:23 PM ET

- bradleyc4

Idk why he remind me of Tom Green there.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:29 PM ET
Idk why he remind me of Tom Green there.
- mrhattrick27

bet tom was livid at game 7 last nite
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:32 PM ET
Not all but I watched the game yesterday and Rangers played exactly the same way they played all season. Able to generate forecheck pressure with 3 forwards hounding the D (D men rarely pinch unless they see breakdowns). A shotblocking machine. Winning most puck battles near the boards. And horrible on the pp.
- PT21


im sure you watched them also pinned in their own zone for three minutes...they were lucky to escape that series.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 27 @ 1:35 PM ET
im sure you watched them also pinned in their own zone for three minutes...they were lucky to escape that series.
- Philly1980

The second half of the third was all Sens until the penalty at the very end.

They had some very good chances to tie it up

Krieder looks like a player
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:39 PM ET
The second half of the third was all Sens until the penalty at the very end.

They had some very good chances to tie it up

Krieder looks like a player

- Marc D

more like Cryder
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Apr 27 @ 1:40 PM ET
I like the Caps
I doubt the Kings get past the Blues, yet alone the Preds 2.

- Scottie Upshall

Your new avatar?

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:42 PM ET
The second half of the third was all Sens until the penalty at the very end.

They had some very good chances to tie it up

Krieder looks like a player

- Marc D

yeah i had my idiot brother in law(stupid smurfs fan, I HATE LIVING IN NY RIGHT NOW) yesterday tell me that. I told him lets see what he is after 82 games. Im not so sure i want to make up my mind after 4 games. 1 goal in 4 games does not prove anything....lol now 14 pts in six games thats something to marvel at!
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Apr 27 @ 1:51 PM ET
Some folks, including Kerry Fraser (an official I have always appreciated and respected because he is generally good and fair), have been making noise about the Ward goal (and alleged Knuble interference on Thomas) that clinched the series for Washington. I've watched the goal several times now and I think that is a good non-call. Fraser (and others) think it is interference. Knuble does make contact with Thomas, but it is as he goes after the rebound on his initial shot. He doesn't just run Thomas over and the contact was pretty incidental. Thomas barely moves backwards as a result of Knuble's presence. It was a bump of the sort that happens all the time around the crease. Knuble just misses the rebound (it goes under the heel of his stick blade) and then Ward was in the right place at the right time to pop it home. It was a bang, bang sequence, but Knuble has every right to be there going after that rebound. If you're going to call goalie interference on that, then you are going to be calling interference on about 90% of the shots that happen around the crease. Sorry Kerry, you've got sweet hair and all but that is a good non-call.

Fraser's column: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=394329

Ward Goal:
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 27 @ 1:52 PM ET
That's the big question, and it also bring up team success. Without Stamkos, the Lightning still don't make the playoffs. Instead of 10th, they probably finish 12th or 13th. Still no playoffs.

Remove Quick from the Kings. My guess is, you do that, and Richie and Carts are playing with Nail Yakupov next fall.

- Jsaquella


It's tough. I dont think anyone argues any of the selections as they were all very important to their own teams and Giroux should have absolutely considered. I think the topic stared veering towards whether or not Stamkos should be considered, which he should be and I don't think anyone is arguing that.

The regular season is such a large sample size that it's hard to narrow it down to just 3 candidates. Someone was bound to be left out and in this case its Giroux. Something tells me he'll be in that conversation for many years to come, anyway.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 27 @ 1:54 PM ET
Some folks, including Kerry Fraser (an official I have always appreciated and respected because he is generally good and fair), have been making noise about the Ward goal (and alleged Knuble interference on Thomas) that clinched the series for Washington. I've watched the goal several times now and I think that is a good non-call. Fraser (and others) think it is interference. Knuble does make contact with Thomas, but it is as he goes after the rebound on his initial shot. He doesn't just run Thomas over and the contact was pretty incidental. Thomas barely moves backwards as a result of Knuble's presence. It was a bump of the sort that happens all the time around the crease. Knuble just misses the rebound (it goes under the heel of his stick blade) and then Ward was in the right place at the right time to pop it home. It was a bang, bang sequence, but Knuble has every right to be there going after that rebound. If you're going to call goalie interference on that, then you are going to be calling interference on about 90% of the shots that happen around the crease. Sorry Kerry, you've got sweet hair and all but that is a good non-call.




Fraser's column: http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/kerry_fraser/?id=394329

Ward Goal:

- Lexington Flyer



The five on three power play given to the rangers during game 6 was atrocious....I had my idiot brother in law swearing up and down that despite OTT paying off the refs they won....my response was: yeah they also payed them off to go down 5 on 3 in a crucial time in the game. I despise the rangers for their idiot fans....
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:56 PM ET
i didn't expect you to understand, either.
- OrangeBlack27

mhmm yup you could have replaced stamkos with shelley and the outcome would have been the same yup you get it
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 27 @ 1:57 PM ET
Still want to offer sheet him? Or not really anymore since his 60 goals this past season were meaningless?
- funmaster18

on the flyers he would have had 80 and a cup guaranteed
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 27 @ 1:58 PM ET
I was working and the "snub" conversation has sort of passed, but I wanted to make the point that Giroux played 10% of his total minutes this season short handed. Stamkos played 2.5%, while Malkin played 0.2%.

Malkin will win anyways and is deserving, as everyone is saying, but I wish stats looking at a player's overall game were more considered in talking about "valuable players".
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Apr 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
The devils a good team please that is a joke, they almost lost to a rag tag team of nobodys....The rangers who almost lost it until the refs gave them game 6 please...ill respect them when they beat us. Personally i think it flyers/caps ECF. Flyers in 5 caps in 7.
- Philly1980


The Devils had more wins than the Flyers and one less point than the Flyers in regular season. The Devils are a very good team like the Flyers, as evident by them splitting the regular season series.
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