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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Apr 27 @ 2:19 AM ET
Well I hope we sign Justin Schultz.
- ystoil


For all we know, he may end up sucking balls.
bleedingcopper
Edmonton Oilers
Location: macklin, SK
Joined: 04.27.2012

Apr 27 @ 2:20 AM ET
For all we know, he may end up sucking balls.
- laughs2907

anyone remember fabian brunnstrom? thats what i though
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Apr 27 @ 2:20 AM ET
Man I would buy a Fasth jersey instantly if the Oil signed him. Insane goaltender.

The Luongo scenarios to TO are not without merit. Burke traded for him from florida no? So he's comfortable with that management. TO is in desperate need of a #1 goalie (supposedly anyway, I think Wilson's poop system was mainly to blame) who better than an actual #1 vet goalie? So it has life outside the "TO is the hockey universe".

I'm glad the Kitchener boy is getting some notice. Oilers prospect pool is much deeper in quality than most people think

- Boosinicka


Fasth versus Quick... Both great goalie names.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:22 AM ET
Man I would buy a Fasth jersey instantly if the Oil signed him. Insane goaltender.

The Luongo scenarios to TO are not without merit. Burke traded for him from florida no? So he's comfortable with that management. TO is in desperate need of a #1 goalie (supposedly anyway, I think Wilson's poop system was mainly to blame) who better than an actual #1 vet goalie? So it has life outside the "TO is the hockey universe".

I'm glad the Kitchener boy is getting some notice. Oilers prospect pool is much deeper in quality than most people think

- Boosinicka


It was Nonis... Burke's boyfriend.

Zero chance he goes to TO.... nadda
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Apr 27 @ 2:22 AM ET
That is not a good trade for the canucks... Vinny having 7.8 million does not equal Lu at 5.3 million just because they both have long contracts.
- kneughter


No kidding. I love Vinny from his dominant days, but he's a 20-25 goal guy now. His contract needs a whole lot more circumventing to make him worthwhile. Still my favourite player from NHL 2008.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 2:22 AM ET
ok so how bout this suggestion
yaks for- kulikov,gubbranson
gags, 2nd round pick- gormely
and all of a suden the d looks franking unreal

- bleedingcopper


If I'm trading Yak to Florida, I want Huberdeau, Kulikov and their 2012 first or 2013 first.

Gags and a 4th for Gormley. I think they can afford to let him go since they have Rundblad, Summers, and Murphy.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 2:23 AM ET
For all we know, he may end up sucking balls.
- laughs2907


True, but all he gets is the entry level contract anyways.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Apr 27 @ 2:23 AM ET
Man I would buy a Fasth jersey instantly if the Oil signed him. Insane goaltender.

The Luongo scenarios to TO are not without merit. Burke traded for him from florida no? So he's comfortable with that management. TO is in desperate need of a #1 goalie (supposedly anyway, I think Wilson's poop system was mainly to blame) who better than an actual #1 vet goalie? So it has life outside the "TO is the hockey universe".

I'm glad the Kitchener boy is getting some notice. Oilers prospect pool is much deeper in quality than most people think

- Boosinicka

Ducks signed Fasth.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:24 AM ET
No kidding. I love Vinny from his dominant days, but he's a 20-25 goal guy now. His contract needs a whole lot more circumventing to make him worthwhile. Still my favourite player from NHL 2008.
- micah555


You know how many people have suggested the only way Tampa takes Lu is if we take Vinny?

"long contract for another long contract".... apparently some people do not understand how contracts work. Media has convinced fans that lengthy contracts are the devil... THE DEVIL.....

kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:25 AM ET
Ducks signed Fasth.
- Jack-artist


Really?... man that was Fasth
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Apr 27 @ 2:26 AM ET
If I'm trading Yak to Florida, I want Huberdeau, Kulikov and their 2012 first or 2013 first.

Gags and a 4th for Gormley. I think they can afford to let him go since they have Rundblad, Summers, and Murphy.

- ystoil

A little too much for Yakupov, and not enough for Gagner. Why should the proven asset cost more than the unproven one?
bleedingcopper
Edmonton Oilers
Location: macklin, SK
Joined: 04.27.2012

Apr 27 @ 2:26 AM ET
If I'm trading Yak to Florida, I want Huberdeau, Kulikov and their 2012 first or 2013 first.

Gags and a 4th for Gormley. I think they can afford to let him go since they have Rundblad, Summers, and Murphy.

- ystoil

fla would never take that replace huberdea with gudbranson and add our 2013 second then maybe
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Apr 27 @ 2:29 AM ET
True, but all he gets is the entry level contract anyways.
- ystoil


Oh yeah, there's definitely very little risk with him... I just think people are expecting too much of him at the moment.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:29 AM ET
If I'm trading Yak to Florida, I want Huberdeau, Kulikov and their 2012 first or 2013 first.

Gags and a 4th for Gormley. I think they can afford to let him go since they have Rundblad, Summers, and Murphy.

- ystoil



Yikes!!
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 2:30 AM ET
A little too much for Yakupov, and not enough for Gagner. Why should the proven asset cost more than the unproven one?
- Jack-artist


People get boners for mysteriousness.

Well Huberdeau is also unproven and not on the same level as Yakupov. Yakupov would've gone 1st overall last year too. Not sure how good Kulikov becomes since I haven't seen too much of him. He seems to be trending up but will he be another mild mannered top 4 guy or a top 2 guy, don't know.

I can agree with you on me undervaluing Gagner.

Edit`: maybe Gagner for Gormley and a 2nd. Turris did fetch Rundblad and a 2nd.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 2:31 AM ET
Yikes!!
- kneughter


Agree with me
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 2:35 AM ET
Oh yeah, there's definitely very little risk with him... I just think people are expecting too much of him at the moment.
- laughs2907


For me, it`s not so much that I expect a 40 or 50 point breakout season next year from him, it's that I want to see Tambellini go hard after someone that has that kind of potential especially when we could use that type of Dman.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Apr 27 @ 2:35 AM ET
Agree with me
- ystoil


Russians are a tricky breed.... is that racist?

Anyways... its hard to say if he even stays in the NHL for an extended period of time... (yes I know he has been in NA for awhile)... or if he becomes another head case (filatov)

I believe he will be a great player... but you want to trade a unproven player who hasn't played 1 game in the NHL with proven players... including a proven top 4 dman.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Apr 27 @ 2:38 AM ET
Really?... man that was Fasth
- kneughter

Well, it's reported that he's waiting until after the WC to sign with them. So it's being finalized Fasth.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 2:40 AM ET
Russians are a tricky breed.... is that racist?

Anyways... its hard to say if he even stays in the NHL for an extended period of time... (yes I know he has been in NA for awhile)... or if he becomes another head case (filatov)

I believe he will be a great player... but you want to trade a unproven player who hasn't played 1 game in the NHL with proven players... including a proven top 4 dman.

- kneughter


I would say stereotypical not racist.

Anyways, I see the validity in your point but you have to remember the price tag on the 1st overall pick. But that's all you can do is trade the unproven potential 1st overall for proven players. I can't see many GM's trading the 1st overall for the 3rd, the 33rd and the 63rd. Or the 1st overall for another unproven player with a lower ceiling and maybe another pick. I just can't see it happening nor as a GM would I do it.

Edit: when i say all you can do, I mean all that makes sense.. for me anyways.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 2:44 AM ET
Well, it's reported that he's waiting until after the WC to sign with them. So it's being finalized Fasth.
- Jack-artist


Will he be off of a team's roster as Fasth as Gustavsson due to poor play?
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Apr 27 @ 2:44 AM ET
Ducks signed Fasth.
- Jack-artist


Nope. All sorts of rumors he was signed, but there is no official word for the team, the MSM or the player himself. Last word was, the Ducks were offering a one-way deal, but the player was waiting to see if any other teams would make an offer.
Meganuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Eating T-Rex eggs made by my s, BC
Joined: 10.03.2006

Apr 27 @ 3:26 AM ET
The Oilers are 3 top top 4 dmen away from being a good team and possibly a real 2C as RNH will be a #1 (if he isnt already) pretty soon.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Apr 27 @ 3:37 AM ET
Nope. All sorts of rumors he was signed, but there is no official word for the team, the MSM or the player himself. Last word was, the Ducks were offering a one-way deal, but the player was waiting to see if any other teams would make an offer.
- Maxbone

See my second post on the matter.
Tony Montana
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.30.2008

Apr 27 @ 4:37 AM ET
If Eberle and Hemsky wasn't enough to get us Seguin at the draft, then Yakupov is definitely worth at least Lucic, Hamilton, and a first rounder. And that was back when Hemsky was still a point per game player and not injury prone.
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