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molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:47 PM ET
I know you're joking, but.... players are subject to two no-notice tests a year from the start of training camp to the end of the regular season.

So, I guess if you could find a steroid that acts super fast they could bulk up for next year's playoffs...

- shruew


i was not joking and thank you
i was refering also to supplements that aid in muscle formation
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Apr 26 @ 5:53 PM ET
Im not buying it. Hjarmlarson did throw hits in the minors but I dont know if they were legendary and hes laid off since his suspension in the NHL. If it is a philosophy I dont think its Q's. Eddie is simply teaching kids to get their sticks in shooting lanes and get sticks in the right spots prior to a shot in order to deflect it wide or high. Not necessarily stick checking as opposed to playing the body.

Once again Q was a rough and tough defender his St.Luois teams were rough and tumble and here prior to last year and this year his team were tough. I think the players may have played a role.

Seabrook is close to the league lead in hits by a defense-men every year. Keith Leddy Oduya Hjarlmarson sorry these guys just dont hit.

- mvp0207

You mean since Kitchen arrived? Coincidence?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 26 @ 5:57 PM ET
You mean since Kitchen arrived? Coincidence?
- NewToHockey

savvyone-1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL
Joined: 03.04.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:59 PM ET

- EKolb13

You mean Mr. -174 lifetime?
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 26 @ 5:59 PM ET
We saw some glimpses of what Hjalmarsson is capable of during the Phoenix series. A couple of big, bone-crushing hits. He's 6'3" and over 200 lbs. His frame could easily take another 10-15 lbs.

So . . . this brings me back to Mr. Hard-Headed, Stubborn-as-a-mule Q. If, as everyone says, the coaching philosophy/strategy is the "active stick" and don't get yourself taken out of the play throwing a hit . . . once again, Q, your time is up. See ya.

While there's nothing wrong with stick-checking AS PART OF AN OVERALL STRATEGY THAT INCLUDES SOLID BODY CHECKING, a D philosophy that preaches stick-checking at all costs is on Q and his staff.

I believe that Hjalmarsson, Seabrook, and yes even Nick Leddy are very capable of playing physical. Leddy is NOT a smurf (as you guys like to call him), going around 6' and 190 lbs. Again, he's a young guy, while he might not get taller, he sure could easily add 10 lbs during a good off-season regimen. I've played against plenty of 6' or just under, guys that are built like brick sh!thouses and could rattle your teeth.

It's got to be a coaching philosophy/strategy we're dealing with here. All that fancy play is great, makes great highlight reel stuff, but Q refuses to play a down and dirty kind of game when needed.

- savvyone-1



+1
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 26 @ 6:00 PM ET
i was not joking and thank you
i was refering also to supplements that aid in muscle formation

- molly2522


While you're at it, why don't you start advocating for all of them to start injecting "Super Soldier Serum," just like Captain America.

You really are a tool, aren't you?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 26 @ 6:01 PM ET
You mean Mr. -174 lifetime?
- savvyone-1


Without looking it up, I'm going to guess that's Kitchen's career +/-?
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Apr 26 @ 6:01 PM ET
I don't blame one group individually. Coaching, management, and players should be blamed. Not the right players, not the right system, and not the right effort. They all sucked this year on special teams!! The biggest thing I saw was Q intimate that he needs to take some stars off the PK. He needs guys who will block shots, wasn't provided that.
- droe411

The coaching decision to load up one unit with Toews/Kane/Hossa/Sharp/Seabrook was a guarantee that the Hawks stars would always be against the opponent's best PK lineup. I've been making fun of this ever since the duct tape and twine second unit was outscoring the top PP unit early in the year. Why on earth did they never put Toews/Sharp on one unit and Hossa/Kane on the other forcing a more difficult matchup for the less able second and third PK units?
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 26 @ 6:08 PM ET
While you're at it, why don't you start advocating for all of them to start injecting "Super Soldier Serum," just like Captain America.

You really are a tool, aren't you?

- EKolb13


uncalled for you ____________ . fill in the blank i wont lower myself to your level
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 26 @ 6:09 PM ET
The coaching decision to load up one unit with Toews/Kane/Hossa/Sharp/Seabrook was a guarantee that the Hawks stars would always be against the opponent's best PK lineup. I've been making fun of this ever since the duct tape and twine second unit was outscoring the top PP unit early in the year. Why on earth did they never put Toews/Sharp on one unit and Hossa/Kane on the other forcing a more difficult matchup for the less able second and third PK units?
- NewToHockey


agreewith someone willing to get in front of the goalie not with a c on his jersey
savvyone-1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I'm singing the Blues!, IL
Joined: 03.04.2011

Apr 26 @ 6:26 PM ET
Without looking it up, I'm going to guess that's Kitchen's career +/-?
- EKolb13

Yes.

You know, those who can - do.
Those that can't - teach.

He had what I would call a "yo-yo" career. Multiple times sent down to the minors over the course of his career. Not what I would say is a good role model for knowing a lot about hockey, at least if you take into account career stats.
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 26 @ 6:30 PM ET
Yes.

You know, those who can - do.
Those that can't - teach.

He had what I would call a "yo-yo" career. Multiple times sent down to the minors over the course of his career. Not what I would say is a good role model for knowing a lot about hockey, at least if you take into account career stats.

- savvyone-1


how does this thinking apply to stan b
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Apr 26 @ 6:31 PM ET
agreewith someone willing to get in front of the goalie not with a c on his jersey
- molly2522

That and how about switching the D sides so they actually would have a chance to one time the puck?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 26 @ 6:31 PM ET
Yes.

You know, those who can - do.
Those that can't - teach.

He had what I would call a "yo-yo" career. Multiple times sent down to the minors over the course of his career. Not what I would say is a good role model for knowing a lot about hockey, at least if you take into account career stats.

- savvyone-1


Between his career stats and the crap special teams this season, Kitchen isn't looking too good.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Apr 26 @ 6:36 PM ET
Between his career stats and the crap special teams this season, Kitchen isn't looking to good.
- EKolb13

You are overlooking having the head coach who is such a good friend that he turns a blind eye to all levels of incomptence. Huge asset to have.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 26 @ 6:40 PM ET
You are overlooking having the head coach who is such a good friend that he turns a blind eye to all levels of incomptence. Huge asset to have.
- NewToHockey


Good point. I'm also not overlooking it. I'm still on Ogie's "tick-tock" fire Q bandwagon. I just haven't said that much about it lately.

NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Apr 26 @ 6:49 PM ET
Good point. I'm also not overlooking it. I'm still on Ogie's "tick-tock" fire Q bandwagon. I just haven't said that much about it lately.
- EKolb13

I don't remember if it was Al's article (great as always, Al) or a JJ comment earlier, but someone mentioned the possibility of the rift between Stan and Q blowing up soon. I would think if they were reassigning Q they would do it before the playoffs end.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
I don't remember if it was Al's article (great as always, Al) or a JJ comment earlier, but someone mentioned the possibility of the rift between Stan and Q blowing up soon. I would think if they were reassigning Q they would do it before the playoffs end.
- NewToHockey


I wouldn't be surprised if something came of this by the end of next week.

I really don't think anything is going to happen with the Bowman regime. At least not now. I still think they have next season to "right the ship."

I remember last summer, JJ posted a blog about Stan and his contract extention, and I posted in the thread then that it really seemed to me that if the Hawks were to fall flat again, it could be that Q takes the fall. At least that was what I was reading between the lines.

I don't know if Q is going to get the axe. In my opinion, he should. I wouldn't be shocked if he were to stay or go, nor would I be seriously upset about it either way. If Q does stay, I'd almost have to think the first losing streak he has next season may spell the end for him, or maybe even less than that. If anything, Q is running out of mistakes he can make before he's on the chopping block, if he isn't there already.

I do think Kitchen is going to get the axe. If he doesn't, then I really have to start questioning Bowman's competence as the GM. More than I question it now.

philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Apr 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
Keep a bookmark in the Bowman/Q situation. There may be another chapter yet to be written very soon.
- John Jaeckel


Will do...i NOT LIKING the friction vibe between the Coach and GM...if it's a fact. NOT GOOD KARMA for the TOMAHAWK.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Apr 26 @ 7:04 PM ET
Look who's out of the penalty box!

Glad to have you back.

- EKolb13


Thank EK
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 26 @ 7:06 PM ET
Thank EK

- philco28


Anytime yo!
roenick
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: WI
Joined: 10.06.2010

Apr 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
Do you lump Scotty and Stan Bowman together? I bet Stan has his daddy on speed dial. Reviewing Stan's resume he never excelled at being a GM but was an outstanding coach. Yes Stan is very head strong, but I get the feeling Stan was never meant to be a GM and influences his son in bad decisions.
ilinkhawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 10.11.2007

Apr 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
Im not buying it. Hjarmlarson did throw hits in the minors but I dont know if they were legendary and hes laid off since his suspension in the NHL. If it is a philosophy I dont think its Q's. Eddie is simply teaching kids to get their sticks in shooting lanes and get sticks in the right spots prior to a shot in order to deflect it wide or high. Not necessarily stick checking as opposed to playing the body.

Once again Q was a rough and tough defender his St.Luois teams were rough and tumble and here prior to last year and this year his team were tough. I think the players may have played a role.

Seabrook is close to the league lead in hits by a defense-men every year. Keith Leddy Oduya Hjarlmarson sorry these guys just dont hit.

- mvp0207


Another reason I am in favor of a new 3 and 4.. We have no real weapon on the point in PP. We saw Bolland, Sharp and even Patrick Kane get time at the point. What does that tell you? Kind of a joke. So let's see.. Not big enough , not physical enough and no pp shot. Time to re shuffle 3 and 4 and roll with Leddy and Monty at 5 and 6 next year .[img][/img]
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 26 @ 7:25 PM ET
I don't remember if it was Al's article (great as always, Al) or a JJ comment earlier, but someone mentioned the possibility of the rift between Stan and Q blowing up soon. I would think if they were reassigning Q they would do it before the playoffs end.
- NewToHockey

Well if you believe Stanbow's comments in the presser the goal is to win the Stanley Cup every year. Q didn't deliver that despite the great players the idiot GM brought in to help him achieve the objective - you know the Brunettes, Montadors, Morrisson.

Got news for Stanley - very few NHL coaches can turn chicken sh$t into a delicious chicken salad. But the GM never gets fired before his coach does.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Apr 26 @ 7:28 PM ET
Do you lump Scotty and Stan Bowman together? I bet Stan has his daddy on speed dial. Reviewing Stan's resume he never excelled at being a GM but was an outstanding coach. Yes Stan is very head strong, but I get the feeling Stan was never meant to be a GM and influences his son in bad decisions.
- roenick

Do you mean Scotty in the three instances highlighted above?
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