You go from laughing at me at the thought of trading Luongo then you give me 4 teams that would be interested. Glad you're consistent in your thoughts. Not sure Lamoriello counts as a GM that would be "desperate to save his own ass" though.
- hankthetank

I said teams wouldn't exactly be "tripping over themselves" and I said "good luck moving that contract" Didn't say it was impossible. Wow, you're a real critical thinker.

I sure as hell wouldn't want him. But this is a league where Gomez got moved, so anything is possible.

BTW, Lou hasn't realy done sh!t as a GM since the lockout....and that was 8 years ago.

In my opinion it would be a mistake trading Luongo instead of Schneider. This is a guy that won 15 playoff games last year, and they would trade him instead of the guy that has 1 playoff victory and is 0-11 in O.T. playoff games in his professional career (NHL & AHL)? Also add to the fact that Schneider was 27-7 against non-playoff teams in 2 seasons, but only 10-7-3 against playoff teams.
Also add to the fact that they pretty much killed Luongo's market value by having him sit on the bench the last 3 games of the series. Luongo was not the problem this series, it was Kesler, Burrows, Edler, Raymond, Higgins, Lapierre, Bieksa, & Booth. All no shows. A couple of those 8 is who they should be looking to move.
- scootty

While this is true, you have to understand that Vancouver has pretty much turned against Lu. He can't be blamed at all for this year's exit, yet there were rumblings of trading him all winter (after any suspect loss or even a win where he gave up a garbage goal).

I think he feels, firstly, unwanted and an unhappy goaltender is probably worse than no goaltender at all. Secondly, his wife doesn't like Van, and you can bet she has probably been feeding him little suggestions about what their future should entail.

Schneider isn't as much of a gamble as you think, either; the guy basically ensured Lu and him won the Jennings last season, and when he came in this season, he did play better (his athletisicm surpasses that of Lu by a large margin, and his ability to fight through traffic and make saves out of nothing is something Lu tends to lack).

Either way, Van has some big decisions to mull over. I'd wager Lu is gone: what he said was the politically correct way of both enduring himself to the Nucks faithful, while suggesting a trade is the correct way to go.

do you want some help?
- Scooby_Doo

go for it

Do you think guys will do better next season?

Moulson and Tavares are impressive.
- bruinsbeer69

If issues on defense get addressed in the offseason, I'd expect a slight improvement. If we sign a bunch of washed up heaps of crap to mix in with a bunch of young kids, then I'd expect another lottery pick. Secondary scoring was an issue too. Okposo and Bailey both finished strong, but the games were meaningless. If they can keep it up consistently next season when the games actually matter, then things are looking better. I forget the exact # but the Moulson/JT/PAP line accounted for some obscene percentage of our total offense. Can't do it all alone.

My guess is a slight improvement, but nothing major. Nobody wants to sign here and you're not gonna do it with a bunch of young kids and tryout-contract vets.

While this is true, you have to understand that Vancouver has pretty much turned against Lu. He can't be blamed at all for this year's exit, yet there were rumblings of trading him all winter (after any suspect loss or even a win where he gave up a garbage goal).

I think he feels, firstly, unwanted and an unhappy goaltender is probably worse than no goaltender at all. Secondly, his wife doesn't like Van, and you can bet she has probably been feeding him little suggestions about what their future should entail.

Schneider isn't as much of a gamble as you think, either; the guy basically ensured Lu and him won the Jennings last season, and when he came in this season, he did play better (his athletisicm surpasses that of Lu by a large margin, and his ability to fight through traffic and make saves out of nothing is something Lu tends to lack).

Either way, Van has some big decisions to mull over. I'd wager Lu is gone: what he said was the politically correct way of both enduring himself to the Nucks faithful, while suggesting a trade is the correct way to go.
- ghostibator

The goaltending is what inflated our stats. We were not a good team this year.

go for it
- bruinsbeer69

I'll wait until this game is over.

- stinger67

Another thing that could happen,there is a lot of discussion to move Kesler and/or Edler. It is possible to do a package deal to make deals more attractive or get the proper player/s back.

Another thing that could happen,there is a lot of discussion to move Kesler and/or Edler. It is possible to do a package deal to make deals more attractive or get the proper player/s back.
- VANTEL

Name your (realistic) price for the pair. From the Isles I mean..just curious.

Now I know you visit Canucks threads more often than most... by mid season myself and a few others (Vantel etc..) had convinced Canucks nation that Luongo sucks and needs to be traded. Since he's now a trade piece, we'd be silly to go back and say how bad he is... of course we need to pump his tires now and wait for him to be sent packing before we go back to talking about how bad he is.
- Scooby_Doo

Sorry to disappoint you... I only ventured into the Canucktard threads during your first round embarrassment... The whining, ball cupping and self high fives are too much to bear...

Besides, if I want to tool out Canucktards, I just have to go into a Leafs thread...

Name your (realistic) price for the pair. From the Isles I mean..just curious.
- eichiefs9

It doesn't matter what I ask

If it was me I would go Luong Kesler Raymond for Nash and Umberger from CBJ.

From NYI would have to start Tavares and Nino.Jesnsen would also go back your way.

It doesn't matter what I ask

If it was me I would go Luong Kesler Raymond for Nash and Umberger from CBJ.

From NYI would have to start Tavares and Nino.Jesnsen would also go back your way.
- VANTEL

I can't tell if this is a joke or not?

I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
- eichiefs9

it's not a joke, that's the funny part

I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
- eichiefs9

It's hard when you get into franchise players .Neither side wants to part with their.I don't see a NY/Van deal happening.

But CBJ for Luongo + is very capable because both teams want to get rid of franchise players.

The goaltending is what inflated our stats. We were not a good team this year.
- VANTEL

I'm a Nuck fan as well (from childhood), I would agree, this season was one of the most uninspiring in terms of cup potential. I think winning the President's Trophy has more to do with other teams underperforming, rather than the Nucks blowing away the competition.

Also, when they lost, they usually lost rather poorly. Very inconsistent play across the board.

This mirrored Lu's play as well; he was good when he was good, and pretty poor when he was bad...if that makes any sense.

Sorry to disappoint you... I only ventured into the Canucktard threads during your first round embarrassment... The whining, ball cupping and self high fives are too much to bear...

Besides, if I want to tool out Canucktards, I just have to go into a Leafs thread...
- SofaKingBored

I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
- eichiefs9

If it is it's a bad joke

BS call ...just give the game to Boston...

It's hard when you get into franchise players .Neither side wants to part with their.I don't see a NY/Van deal happening.

But CBJ for Luongo + is very capable because both teams want to get rid of franchise players.
- VANTEL

I'm not sure I'd consider Kesler/Edler "franchise" players for the Canucks. Don't get me wrong, their both immensely talented and important players but the Sedin's are really the only guys I'd tag as franchise players on your team. I agree that a NYI/VAN trade probably wouldn't happen. I'd be happy to include the 4th overall in some sort of package, but Tavares is not going anywhere ever.

BS call ...just give the game to Boston...
- Symba007

No kidding! That was awful...

No kidding! That was awful...
- SofaKingBored

Weak call at this point in the game

I'm not sure I'd consider Kesler/Edler "franchise" players for the Canucks. Don't get me wrong, their both immensely talented and important players but the Sedin's are really the only guys I'd tag as franchise players on your team. I agree that a NYI/VAN trade probably wouldn't happen. I'd be happy to include the 4th overall in some sort of package, but Tavares is not going anywhere ever.
- eichiefs9

See thats why it is hard to make a deal like that.Kesler last year was Selke winner 40 goal scorer and carried the Canucks against Nashville ,but when the other team stays pat .As far as NYI feelings toward Tavares, they are too strong ,and to be truthful there is not another player on Islandes that is worth Kesler so thats why that deal would never happen.

I'm not sure I'd consider Kesler/Edler "franchise" players for the Canucks. Don't get me wrong, their both immensely talented and important players but the Sedin's are really the only guys I'd tag as franchise players on your team. I agree that a NYI/VAN trade probably wouldn't happen. I'd be happy to include the 4th overall in some sort of package, but Tavares is not going anywhere ever.
- eichiefs9

And why would he want to? There's so much positive things happening on Long Island.

And why would he want to? There's so much positive things happening on Long Island.
- hankthetank

That what I figured too .Edm and NYI are building through the draft .They want quality players traded to their team but don't want to give anything back.

I'm not sure I'd consider Kesler/Edler "franchise" players for the Canucks. Don't get me wrong, their both immensely talented and important players but the Sedin's are really the only guys I'd tag as franchise players on your team. I agree that a NYI/VAN trade probably wouldn't happen. I'd be happy to include the 4th overall in some sort of package, but Tavares is not going anywhere ever.
- eichiefs9

Tavares is still too young and has too much potential to give up in almost any deal, but because of a late start due to an injury, people forget that Kesler is 1 year removed from a 41 goal season where he also won the Selke. That mix of offense plus a high defensive ability doesn't come along often.