How did you come up with 5 times as much?
I hate to break it to you, but there are people on here who you may consider to be morons, that make 7 times as much as any hockey insider.
- Scooby_Doo

He's RFA so fortunately he doesn't make 5 mill on our cap until he's in the old folks home like Luongo
- Smitty98

i think he was making fun of you cause of the name.... it's Lindback, not lindberg.

He's RFA so fortunately he doesn't make 5 mill on our cap until he's in the old folks home like Luongo
- Smitty98

It's Lindback not Lindberg.
Hopefully the Leafs scouts haven't found a goalie named Lindberg like they did when they signed Finger instead of Foote.

So Vancouver fans, what happens if Luongo can't handle being a number one anymore at 38 or 39 years old but decides he still wants to be a back up in the league for a few more years? Some team is going to have to pay him 5.3 million to sit on the bench for 5 years?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat as Tony the tiger would say

Yeah I don't agree with Mclean either and obviously LUongo's return is going to hit somewhere in the middle.

Again I see Vancouver taking on a bad contract to offset the dollars. Like a Ryan Malone along with a mid range prospect. That's about it.

If you guys want the moon than trade Schenider but Luongo just doesn't have the trade value you guys want him to have.

a 43 year old making a cap hit of 5.3 mill is not desirable. Sorry
- Smitty98

He's not going to be playing at 43.

Do any of these long-term contracts actually have the intention of coming to fruition?

Nope.

i think he was making fun of you cause of the name.... it's Lindback, not lindberg.
- burn

who gives a $hit, he's european, i get their names wrong all the time. Important thing is he's young and can stop the puck and doesn't have a contract into his twilight years.

So Vancouver fans, what happens if Luongo can't handle being a number one anymore at 38 or 39 years old but decides he still wants to be a back up in the league for a few more years? Some team is going to have to pay him 5.3 million to sit on the bench for 5 years?

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat as Tony the tiger would say
- Smitty98

Buy out.

and not our problem.

I think that you'll be surprised as to what Luongo will fetch considering the importance of the position but I do expect a pretty good prospect in return. And Doug Maclean is a big mouth who went to the Mike Milbury school of GM'ing, so I'd take his word with a grain of salt.....
- chompsey

We could argue this for the next 3 months.

Truth is, none of us know what Louongo will fetch,

Once situations with Bernier, Harding, and other goalies are settled, then you will see other teams make a hard pitch for Louongo.

If a team like the Leafs pick up either Harding or Bernier, and Tampa picks up the other, how many teams are left in the running?

Does NJ HAVE to get a goalie next season? Not really..
Does Edmonton? Probably, but they could also get a stopgap goalie...

Lou is not a bandaid. He is a legit number one goalie in this league. So the team that goes for him knows this is their guy for 6-7 more years.

I am not so sure Vancouver even deals him. If they are looking for a serious tinker to their lineup, they may deal schnider. He has a lot to prove, and Vancouver is in no position to keep making the playoffs just to come home empty handed.

Schnider would get a sweet ass return.

Like I said earlier...
Halak was the man in MTL and they moved him after everyone thought they were done with Price. Don't be shocked if Lou does not get traded.

PS, I am sure I spelt Schnider wrong this entire time

Yeah I don't agree with Mclean either and obviously LUongo's return is going to hit somewhere in the middle.

Again I see Vancouver taking on a bad contract to offset the dollars. Like a Ryan Malone along with a mid range prospect. That's about it.

If you guys want the moon than trade Schenider but Luongo just doesn't have the trade value you guys want him to have.

a 43 year old making a cap hit of 5.3 mill is not desirable. Sorry
- Smitty98

Actually it would be quite desirable for any team wanting to make the cap floor while only paying out $1 million a year while taking that cap hit.......having said that, its asinine to even mention the fact that he'll be 43 because he won't play that long....why don't people get that?

It's Lindback not Lindberg.
Hopefully the Leafs scouts haven't found a goalie named Lindberg like they did when they signed Finger instead of Foote.
- Scooby_Doo

Cliff didn't trade for for Finger, he signed him...and it wasn't Foote it was.......sh!t I can't remember

He's not going to be playing at 43.

Do any of these long-term contracts actually have the intention of coming to fruition?

Nope.
- Mattjd123

Can you guarantee me he won't want to ride the pine past 38 and retires before he $hits the bed? No you can't. So there is no guarantee this contract doesn't handcuff a team in 5 years. Hence why his trade value is significantly lower cause of this contract

Actually it would be quite desirable for any team wanting to make the cap floor while only paying out $1 million a year while taking that cap hit.......having said that, its asinine to even mention the fact that he'll be 43 because he won't play that long....why don't people get that?
- chompsey

Cause it's your opinion and not a fact? And we are talking about a contract so most people don't go by opinions. THey go by facts.

Cliff didn't trade for for Finger, he signed him...and it wasn't Foote it was.......sh!t I can't remember
- JIMI-JAMES

I said signed. He thought it was Kurt Sauer, but I went with Foote cause it was much funnier.

Cause it's your opinion and not a fact? And we are talking about a contract so most people don't go by opinions. THey go by facts.
- Smitty98

Honestly, do you really think he'll be playing at 43? Who was the last goalie to do that?

I said signed. He thought it was Kurt Sauer, but I went with Foote cause it was much funnier.
- Scooby_Doo

I think you are correct.... and what I think it was was that they offered him 3.5mil over 4 years and it got mixed up and turned into 3.5/yr for 4 years.

Honestly, do you really think he'll be playing at 43? Who was the last goalie to do that?
- chompsey

As long as he isn't a leaf next year. I don't care what he does honestly but if he's coming to my team, I want in writing he's going to retire prior to 40, if you cannot guarantee me that, I want nothing to do with that contract just because your pretty sure he won't wanna play past 40. I don't care if the chances are 90 percent he retires and 10 percent he decides to keep on chugging cause he wnats to win a cup or something.

Not worth the risk cause he isn't that good to take that risk in my opinion.

For a team who needs to hit the cap ceiling, have atter.

As long as he isn't a leaf next year. I don't care what he does honestly but if he's coming to my team, I want in writing he's going to retire prior to 40, if you cannot guarantee me that, I want nothing to do with that contract just because your pretty sure he won't wanna play past 40. I don't care if the chances are 90 percent he retires and 10 percent he decides to keep on chugging cause he wnats to win a cup or something.

Not worth the risk cause he isn't that good to take that risk in my opinion.

For a team who needs to hit the cap ceiling, have atter.
- Smitty98

I'm not insisting he go to any team, I'm just saying he won't be playing until 43, hence the out clause written in his contract at age 38 which says that either party can walk away should they choose.....

I'm not insisting he go to any team, I'm just saying he won't be playing until 43, hence the out clause written in his contract at age 38 which says that either party can walk away should they choose.....
- chompsey

my opinion on luongo's value is that you guys will have to take on a bad contract back like Malone or Komiserek and even then its a win for you guys cause you'll get out from under it in the next 2-5 years and not 10. And you will get a decent prospect as well.

Nothing more, nothing less. That has been echoed by most analysts as well.

The nuck fans that are asking for no salary in return and prospects and first round draft picks.........good luck with that.

Not saying you are one of em btw.... just the ones I have read make me chuckle a bit.

my opinion on luongo's value is that you guys will have to take on a bad contract back like Malone or Komiserek and even then its a win for you guys cause you'll get out from under it in the next 2-5 years and not 10. And you will get a decent prospect as well.

Nothing more, nothing less. That has been echoed by most analysts as well.

The nuck fans that are asking for no salary in return and prospects and first round draft picks.........good luck with that.

Not saying you are one of em btw.... just the ones I have read make me chuckle a bit.
- Smitty98

Not sure who these fans are, but, the consensus amongst Canuck fans in Vancouver is that a rare large contract will be coming back our way to balance the trade financially. The dump is just that, it will have little to any affect on the rest of the trade ie top prospect etc

my opinion on luongo's value is that you guys will have to take on a bad contract back like Malone or Komiserek and even then its a win for you guys cause you'll get out from under it in the next 2-5 years and not 10. And you will get a decent prospect as well.

Nothing more, nothing less. That has been echoed by most analysts as well.

The nuck fans that are asking for no salary in return and prospects and first round draft picks.........good luck with that.

Not saying you are one of em btw.... just the ones I have read make me chuckle a bit.
- Smitty98

His value right now, might be the lowest for a player who has been near the top in the league at his position. The reality is, and this issue is compounded by the uncertainty in the upcoming CBA, teams are going to be very careful as to what type of contracts they take on prior to when they find out the new playing rules are. Don't get me wrong, Parise and Suter will get very large deals this summer, but teams would rather take on their own risks, than assume someone else's, especially if that risk is unwanted by the Canucks themselves.

Buy out.

and not our problem.
- Mattjd123

yeah we're still paying Darcy Tucker a million a year.

Buy out is not the answer. He'd be hitting our cap for another 10 years.

His value right now, might be the lowest for a player who has been near the top in the league at his position. The reality is, and this issue is compounded by the uncertainty in the upcoming CBA, teams are going to be very careful as to what type of contracts they take on prior to when they find out the new playing rules are. Don't get me wrong, Parise and Suter will get very large deals this summer, but teams would rather take on their own risks, than assume someone else's, especially if that risk is unwanted by the Canucks themselves.
- p_zub

Exactly, well said.

Exactly, well said.
- Smitty98

As you like to say, that's an opinion, not necessarily a fact.....they don't have to trade him at all so I wouldn't assume that he is unwanted....

As a leaf fan, I wouldn't hate having him on my team for hte next 2 to 3 years. It's after that when his play starts to slowly decline andwe still have 7 years left of his contract to look at it.

We then sit around and wait for him to retire? Just doesn't seem like a desirable circumstance to me.

As a leaf fan, I wouldn't hate having him on my team for hte next 2 to 3 years. It's after that when his play starts to slowly decline andwe still have 7 years left of his contract to look at it.

We then sit around and wait for him to retire? Just doesn't seem like a desirable circumstance to me.
- Smitty98

Goalies can be quite effective into their 40's.