Come on guy..... really?



Price has played 22 more games in 5 years (VS Cujo's 4 years in TO). Price has 26 playoff games in 5 years to Cujo's 60 in 4 years.
- burn

Uh,

WHo do you think is the better team, the Leafs of those years, or the Habs since Price has been on the team.

The answer is The Leafs, Halak fluked the habs through ONE good playoff run.

Cujo and Belfour had better teams in front of them. Good lord look at the Habs defense the past few years... it is a miracle they won anything at all. A conservative team defense from Martin is the only thing that rescued them.

You're in some serious denial aren't you? I can damn well guarantee that if you swap his jersey to a Leafs jersey, you, among many others, would be anointing him Jesus Price just like they have in Montreal.

You don't believe me? King James Bible Reimer played 37 good games down the stretch and he acquired seventeen different nicknames because of it.

There aren't too many goalies who can win 38 games at age 24 with a .923%. And if you watch him play, it's really easy to see he's a dominant goalie in the making.

3rd worst team in the NHL and he still had a .916%. When the Leafs were 29th, did their goalies have that kind of save percentage?
- Unholy_Goalie

If he were a Leaf and I was trying to call him a franchise goalie, I'd still be an idiot, like those trying to call him a franchise goalie now.

Uh,

WHo do you think is the better team, the Leafs of those years, or the Habs since Price has been on the team.

The answer is The Leafs, Halak fluked the habs through ONE good playoff run.

Cujo and Belfour had better teams in front of them. Good lord look at the Habs defense the past few years... it is a miracle they won anything at all. A conservative team defense from Martin is the only thing that rescued them.
- GoneFullRetard

And were better goalies.

And were better goalies.
- prock

We'll have to agree to disagree.

Uh,

WHo do you think is the better team, the Leafs of those years, or the Habs since Price has been on the team.

The answer is The Leafs, Halak fluked the habs through ONE good playoff run.

Cujo and Belfour had better teams in front of them. Good lord look at the Habs defense the past few years... it is a miracle they won anything at all. A conservative team defense from Martin is the only thing that rescued them.
- GoneFullRetard

Stats and playoff sucsess. End of the line.

You're in some serious denial aren't you? I can damn well guarantee that if you swap his jersey to a Leafs jersey, you, among many others, would be anointing him Jesus Price just like they have in Montreal.

You don't believe me? King James Bible Reimer played 37 good games down the stretch and he acquired seventeen different nicknames because of it.

There aren't too many goalies who can win 38 games at age 24 with a .923%. And if you watch him play, it's really easy to see he's a dominant goalie in the making.

3rd worst team in the NHL and he still had a .916%. When the Leafs were 29th, did their goalies have that kind of save percentage?
- Unholy_Goalie

You're in paranoid delusional fits, aren't you? I can full out assure you that if you were to swap jerseys and years, and FELIX, THE DAMN CAT POTVIN were here, in his rookie season, leading the league in goalie status, you would be anointing him the the KING just like they have in Montreal with Price.

There aren't too many goalies that can lead the league at age 21, and if you saw him play, you'd plain well see that he was an elite goalie in the making.

A veteran goalie like Grant "mutha f*%king" Fuhr, and he took the job with ease. When the Habs were 27th, were THEIR GOALIES ANYWHERE NEAR THOSE KIND OF STATS????

Not the point, not surprising.....
Joseph had more wins and comparable stats. Cujo did far more in the playoffs. The Point was about who has done more.

Case closed.
- burn

The point is that you have to go back 10 years before you can find a 31 year old goalie who had comparable numbers. And that's sad.

I know you're ultra defensive about the Leafs but give reality a try sometime.

Stats and playoff sucsess. End of the line.
- burn

It blows my mind that a goalie can have his starting position taken from him by his backup so many times, and yet be named a franchise goalie.

If he were a Leaf and I was trying to call him a franchise goalie, I'd still be an idiot, like those trying to call him a franchise goalie now.
- prock

No, you wouldn't be an idiot. You'd be right. Unfortunately for the Leafs, they haven't been blessed with the luxury of having a goalie that good, that young in a very, very long time.

When the Habs were 27th, were THEIR GOALIES ANYWHERE NEAR THOSE KIND OF STATS????
- prock

Price had a .916% this year.

i'm not denying that Toronto would have better record with him, i'm saying his numbers would not be near the same if he was on the Leafs
- bobbyisno1

And why? The Habs were a worse team than the Leafs were this year and Price still managed a .916%. If he were with the Leafs, his numbers would be better, not worse. The Habs couldn't score all year.

The point is that you have to go back 10 years before you can find a 31 year old goalie who had comparable numbers. And that's sad.

I know you're ultra defensive about the Leafs but give reality a try sometime.
- Unholy_Goalie

Again, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU???? YOU'RE ARGUING SOMETHING THAT WAS NEVER SAID. THE POINT IS THAT WAS NEVER THE POINT.

The point is that you have to go back 10 years before you can find a 31 year old goalie who had comparable numbers. And that's sad.

I know you're ultra defensive about the Leafs but give reality a try sometime.
- Unholy_Goalie

Actually Burn is one of the most realistic Leafs fans around here.

I just don't happen to agree with him or Prock this time around.

... hey Burn, Niemi won a cup. Was he therefore better than the goalies the Leafs had?

No, you wouldn't be an idiot. You'd be right. Unfortunately for the Leafs, they haven't been blessed with the luxury of having a goalie that good, that young in a very, very long time.
- Unholy_Goalie

again, what has he done to be labelled a franchise goalie? Put up stats firmly in the lower tier of starting goalies on a regular basis?

c'mon, you think Price would have the same numbers playing behind the leafs team?
shake your head
- bobbyisno1

The thing I like about Price is that the guy has the right mentality to play in a market like Montreal. IMO, you have to be a unique individual to handle the goaltending duties with the scrutiny you face in Montreal and Toronto. Reimer gave us a good half season, but when he became 'the guy', he spit the bit big time. Now I can hear people howling about his injury etc. , but there were technical issues way beyond that this year that just showed he was a goalie lacking confidence.

No, you wouldn't be an idiot. You'd be right. Unfortunately for the Leafs, they haven't been blessed with the luxury of having a goalie that good, that young in a very, very long time.
- Unholy_Goalie

Potvin maybe? Palmateer? I would argue that you may have to even go back to Bernie Parent.

No offense to Jiri Crha of course

Price had a .916% this year.
- Unholy_Goalie

Hi, welcome to the new millenium. that's not that great. That was the TWENTIETH best sv% this season. Patrick Roy won Vezina trophies for sv% less than that in the era I'm referring to. These days, it's nowhere near the best.

again, what has he done to be labelled a franchise goalie? Put up stats firmly in the lower tier of starting goalies on a regular basis?
- prock

Without Price, the Habs are the worst team in the league, by a considerable margin. The Blue Jackets and everyone else has better skaters.

The Habs this year may have been the worst team ever without Price.

again, what has he done to be labelled a franchise goalie? Put up stats firmly in the lower tier of starting goalies on a regular basis?
- prock

He did as much or more at 24 years old than Lundqvist or Rinne or Quick or Thomas or Miller or a lot of other goalies have done.

Again, the key here is to actually watch him play and watch his style and watch that he has way more talent than most goalies in the league.

Hi, welcome to the new millenium. that's not that great. That was the TWENTIETH best sv% this season. Patrick Roy won Vezina trophies for sv% less than that in the era I'm referring to. These days, it's nowhere near the best.
- prock

Funny because for a 27th placed team, that's amazing.

Without Price, the Habs are the worst team in the league, by a considerable margin. The Blue Jackets and everyone else has better skaters.

The Habs this year may have been the worst team ever without Price.
- GoneFullRetard

Are you on drugs?

The point is that you have to go back 10 years before you can find a 31 year old goalie who had comparable numbers. And that's sad.

I know you're ultra defensive about the Leafs but give reality a try sometime.
- Unholy_Goalie

Gawd!! I freaking said that! Gez!

I don't know why you're all arguing about Price anyways, didn't you all hear, Burke is going to offer sheet him. We got out Franchise goalie!!!

Strange there haven't been any Philly fans in here crying "conspiracy" for not having wayne simmonds nominated for the masterton trophy.

Funny because for a 27th placed team, that's amazing.
- Unholy_Goalie

So what does Vokoun's .922 on a 28th place team last year mean then?