He's been AGM in Detroit for 14 years. They have won what...3 Cups in that time? Look at their draft history. Look at their competitiveness.

Whether he was the guy responsible or not, he has been around enough success that he probably knows how to get poop done.
- 3M

4 Cups.

who says there aren't lots of women here?

Fredobface - Frederique
3M - Mujinder Matte-Mangélebat
- number_23

Fixed.

Yeah. How serious they actually were about an anglo GM though, is still unclear.
- 3M

I thought you disagreed about him "never having a shot"?

He's been AGM in Detroit for 14 years. They have won what...3 Cups in that time? Look at their draft history. Look at their competitiveness.

Whether he was the guy responsible or not, he has been around enough success that he probably knows how to get poop done.
- 3M

They have been very successful... but they haven't had an impact draft pick since 2004... Their core has been around since late 90s so it was in place when he started.

Not saying he wouldn't be good but you can't assume he will be great because of the situation he can from.

They have been very successful... but they haven't had an impact draft pick since 2004... Their core has been around since late 90s so it was in place when he started.

Not saying he wouldn't be good but you can't assume he will be great because of the situation he can from.
- RENATO6

They shelter their picks unlike 90% of the teams. Brendan Smith showed amazing play in his call-up. Gustav Nyquist looked good. Tomas Tatar almost ready.

je pense pas que je pourrais coucher avec UNE Frédérique...ca marcherai juste pas.
- number_23

Au Cegep yen a une qui voulait, nooooo way.

They shelter their picks unlike 90% of the teams. Brendan Smith showed amazing play in his call-up. Gustav Nyquist looked good. Tomas Tatar almost ready.
- AdamFrench

Usually Tartar does not take long, as it's not cooked.

McKenzie said the other day he wouldn't be surprised if he never became a GM unless it's in Detroit.
- habby

None of this changes the fact that he knows how to get poop done. Whether he knows how (or wants to know how) to get poop done outside of Detroit is another matter.

Fixed.
- Prolific_Scorer

BOODA BOODA BOODA!

*shakesfist*

They shelter their picks unlike 90% of the teams. Brendan Smith showed amazing play in his call-up. Gustav Nyquist looked good. Tomas Tatar almost ready.
- AdamFrench

Yup but very early, we will see how they do when called up. Detroit has been very good for so long because they had a stable nucleus, that is now old.. we will see how they are able to continue while replacing them, it will be interesting.

I thought you disagreed about him "never having a shot"?
- habby

I was more disagreeing with your assertion that the conversation was a formality to ensure that neither party was interested.

They shelter their picks unlike 90% of the teams. Brendan Smith showed amazing play in his call-up. Gustav Nyquist looked good. Tomas Tatar almost ready.
- AdamFrench

They do an amazing job of not letting their own good picks leave. You look at their draft record and it's actually very interesting.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005492.html

They have been very successful... but they haven't had an impact draft pick since 2004... Their core has been around since late 90s so it was in place when he started.

Not saying he wouldn't be good but you can't assume he will be great because of the situation he can from.
- RENATO6

I didn't suggest he'd be great. I said he was the best available (emphasis on the past-tense), and that he knows how to get poop done.

They shelter their picks unlike 90% of the teams. Brendan Smith showed amazing play in his call-up. Gustav Nyquist looked good. Tomas Tatar almost ready.
- AdamFrench

Tomas Jurco, Xavier Ouellet.

Serge: Bonjour Jim...Sorry, hi Jim. Good to talk to you.

Jim: M'eh.

Serge: Do me a favour, we both know you're not interested and in truth neither are we, but do you think you could say you're declining the job at this time? Merci.
- habby

Good one, JDJ/Oilhab.

I was more disagreeing with your assertion that the conversation was a formality to ensure that neither party was interested.
- 3M

I think they are both interested. At one point Holland will decide if he wants to stay .. he is only 56 if he plans to be around for a long time I can't see Nill staying there.

They do an amazing job of not letting their own good picks leave. You look at their draft record and it's actually very interesting.
http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005492.html
- habby

Quite interesting. Lots of players they draft never get a sniff of the NHL. Of course, it could be due to the fact that the ones who do make the NHL stay there for 400+ games.

I was more disagreeing with your assertion that the conversation was a formality to ensure that neither party was interested.
- 3M

I was half kidding.

I still don't think we know he's the best candidate any more than a number of the other guys. Montreal is probably ending up with someone who has a limited track record and we have no clue who the best is.
Some people are even throwing out names like Jennifer Botterill.

Quite interesting. Lots of players they draft never get a sniff of the NHL. Of course, it could be due to the fact that the ones who do make the NHL stay there for 400+ games.
- 3M

That's what i thought, but man, when they get them right, they get them right.

I didn't suggest he'd be great. I said he was the best available (emphasis on the past-tense), and that he knows how to get poop done.
- 3M

I do agree that he seems/seemed like a great option. It would be interested to see who they have called. I would not be surprised to hear that a few more candidates became available after the 1st round.

Good one, JDJ/Oilhab.
- Pecafan Fan

thanks.

That's what i thought, but man, when they get them right, they get them right.
- habby

Hard to keep getting impact players when you always draft in the 20's.. They have historically done a good job of drafting replacements but it will be very difficult to replace Lidstrom, Zetterburg etc when they go.

I was half kidding.

I still don't think we know he's the best candidate any more than a number of the other guys. Montreal is probably ending up with someone who has a limited track record and we have no clue who the best is.
Some people are even throwing out names like Jennifer Botterill.
- habby

Well, to be fair, we can't know who the BEST candidate is without the benefit of plenty of hindsight. I did say he was the best "in my opinion".

And who the (frank) is suggesting Jennifer Botterill?

Au Cegep yen a une qui voulait, nooooo way.
- Fredobface

Fred et Fred...lol.

Well, to be fair, we can't know who the BEST candidate is without the benefit of plenty of hindsight. I did say he was the best "in my opinion".

And who the (frank) is suggesting Jennifer Botterill?
- 3M

http://habsloyalist.blogs...lling-all-candidates.html