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ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
Personally, I wish we could move on from the criticizing of Richards and Carter, or even mentioning them. They're gone. That was then, this is now. How hard did the Flyers compete in game 5? You can like this team and the players we got in the trades without ripping Carter and Richards. Although it seems some times it's a rule or something that you have to do that.

And to be clear, I'm not saying that's what you were doing. This is in general.

- MJL


Understand, I was more or less mentioning the ability of the leadership of this team to get this team to play really hard and not quit under any circumstance. Obviously, it all begins with Giroux, but credit has to be given to a guy like Talbot. Teams in the recent past, I just didn't get the same feel. Was it Richie or Carter's fault? No, but unfortunately Richie and Carter had to be moved for Giroux to take over this team. I give credit to the organization for realizing what they had in Giroux and make the necessary changes for him to excel.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 4:38 PM ET
bruins just put 1 shot on net in 4 mins of PP time. I'm shaking in my boots with them
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:38 PM ET
@johnclarknbc10: Claude Giroux told Briere and Talbot before the game: "watch this first shift." The boys said G had that look in his eyes

Love. It.

- tangent_man



holy poop. love.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 4:39 PM ET
Understand, I was more or less mentioning the ability of the leadership of this team to get this team to play really hard and not quit under any circumstance. Obviously, it all begins with Giroux, but credit has to be given to a guy like Talbot. Teams in the recent past, I just didn't get the same feel. Was it Richie or Carter's fault? No, but unfortunately Richie and Carter had to be moved for Giroux to take over this team. I give credit to the organization for realizing what they had in Giroux and make the necessary changes for him to excel.
- ravishingone

I think a lot people will be negative about those two for a while because when they came up it was like the second coming of Clarke and Barber which wasn't fair to those guys either. However I will say this we have a team you can really root for now. As ticked off as I was at last season's conclusion this season has more than made up for it and carrying negativity is a waste of energy.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:41 PM ET

would like to give props to coburn for this series

he was awesome
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:42 PM ET
bruins just put 1 shot on net in 4 mins of PP time. I'm shaking in my boots with them
- Just5


I think we can beat any team. But I would also respect any opponent the Flyers may play. Regardless of who the Flyers play, it will not be easy. Tim Thomas can beat any team, when he's on.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 4:42 PM ET
What perfect timing to be negative, right after the Flyers have knocked off one of the Cup favorites in the opening round of the playoffs. In my opinion the signing looks great right now. How long has the game been over? Maybe an hour? Unbelievable.
- MJL


What do you think of Gus moving forward? Dress or sit in favor of Lilja? I thought Lilja rebounded nicely and had a nice Game 5 and 6. I dont blame him for the goal today, not much you can do in that situation.

IMO we need Lilja more in a Bos/NYR matchup
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 4:43 PM ET
would like to give props to coburn for this series

he was awesome

- Don'tForgetTocchet


ditto
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 4:43 PM ET
would like to give props to coburn for this series

he was awesome

- Don'tForgetTocchet

Yes he is becoming an elite defenseman before our eyes. At his age this is just about the time they do it.

I still think JVR is gonna have a big playoffs once he gets his legs back. Had one heckuva slapper in game five and showed flashes of his old self.

my gosh what a blessing Couturier has been! we conceivably have another two decades of watching him!
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:44 PM ET
I think a lot people will be negative about those two for a while because when they came up it was like the second coming of Clarke and Barber which wasn't fair to those guys either. However I will say this we have a team you can really root for now. As ticked off as I was at last season's conclusion this season has more than made up for it and carrying negativity is a waste of energy.
- JoeRussomanno


Of course, I would never short change their talent. On the flip side, the trades really couldn't have come out any better. The talent the organization acquired has set this team up for the next decade. As good as Staal was in this series (and he was very good), Coots in two years will be just as good. Schenn's game translates very well in playoff hockey.
atc
Joined: 09.30.2006

Apr 22 @ 4:44 PM ET
What perfect timing to be negative, right after the Flyers have knocked off one of the Cup favorites in the opening round of the playoffs. In my opinion the signing looks great right now. How long has the game been over? Maybe an hour? Unbelievable.
- MJL


Well... Flyers fans were cursing Bryz earlier in the series when his play was highly questionable. Yes, Philadelphia won but his overall performance still left a lot of question marks so I don't pretend everything is suddenly OK.

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 4:44 PM ET
how did johansson miss that chance?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:45 PM ET
What do you think of Gus moving forward? Dress or sit in favor of Lilja? I thought Lilja rebounded nicely and had a nice Game 5 and 6. I dont blame him for the goal today, not much you can do in that situation.

IMO we need Lilja more in a Bos/NYR matchup

- Just5


Gustafsson played well. Couldn't ask for anything more from him today. Regardless of the opponent, I play Lilja first.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Apr 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
Well... Flyers fans were cursing Bryz earlier in the series when his play was highly questionable. Yes, Philadelphia won but his overall performance still left a lot of question marks so I don't pretend everything is suddenly OK.

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic.

- atc


But they still beat the pens 4-2 in the series.
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Apr 22 @ 4:46 PM ET
Well... Flyers fans were cursing Bryz earlier in the series when his play was highly questionable. Yes, Philadelphia won but his overall performance still left a lot of question marks so I don't pretend everything is suddenly OK.

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic.

- atc


But they still beat the pens 4-2 in the series.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:48 PM ET
Well... Flyers fans were cursing Bryz earlier in the series when his play was highly questionable. Yes, Philadelphia won but his overall performance still left a lot of question marks so I don't pretend everything is suddenly OK.

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic.

- atc


No, some Flyers fans were cursing Bryzgalov. Remember back in 2010 when the Flyers went to the Finals? And had to play Montreal when Halak was smoking hot? Things change. I read how hot MAB was getting. How'd that work today? Things change. There is one stat that is most important. And that is W's. Bry had 4 in the first Series. All that matters. And realistically, everything is great. We just knocked off the Pens!
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 22 @ 4:48 PM ET
would like to give props to coburn for this series

he was awesome

- Don'tForgetTocchet


boom
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
Well... Flyers fans were cursing Bryz earlier in the series when his play was highly questionable. Yes, Philadelphia won but his overall performance still left a lot of question marks so I don't pretend everything is suddenly OK.

I'm not trying to be negative, just realistic.

- atc

He looked bad because both teams were playing wide open with little attention to detail defensively. In the last two games they both settled down unfortunately for the pens, Bryzgalov was better today.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
But they still beat the pens 4-2 in the series.
- LJF


Exactly and that is a huge positive for the team and Bryzgalov. To know that we can beat a great team like the Pens with Bryz not playing his best means that once he finally gets his game together we will be much harder to beat.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
Just awesome the rest the flyers are going to get.....game 7s will be on thursday!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
Gustafsson played well. Couldn't ask for anything more from him today. Regardless of the opponent, I play Lilja first.
- MJL


Lilja is a veteran but the play of Gustafsson warrants a discussion to dress. This is assuming that both Grossmann and Mez are ready to go round two.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:50 PM ET
But they still beat the pens 4-2 in the series.
- LJF


Amazing when people forget Vegas made the Pens at 4-1 a prohibitive favorite to win the Stanley Cup before the playoffs. Bryz did enough to get the job done, I have complete faith in him. I'm hoping some time off will give him some time to heal up.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 22 @ 4:50 PM ET
No, some Flyers fans were cursing Bryzgalov. Remember back in 2010 when the Flyers went to the Finals? And had to play Montreal when Halak was smoking hot? Things change. I read how hot MAB was getting. How'd that work today? Things change. There is one stat that is most important. And that is W's. Bry had 4 in the first Series. All that matters. And realistically, everything is great. We just knocked off the Pens!
- MJL

bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 22 @ 4:50 PM ET
Never heard a Giroux sucks chant in Pittsburgh. You did?
- sbrubakerjr

THey make jerseys (100s of dollars) that say fartsmell. Please.
FreshFlyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 22 @ 4:51 PM ET
Just awesome the rest the flyers are going to get.....game 7s will be on thursday!
- Just5


Yep, I expect Round 2 to begin next Saturday. That gives the Flyers some time to heal up and get ready for round 2
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