any guess what Nikolai Kulemin will want? After a bad season he does not have that much power to leverage
- 50 Mission Cap

He will sign a 1yr deal to redeem himself and not leave too much money on the table.

any guess what Nikolai Kulemin will want? After a bad season he does not have that much power to leverage
- 50 Mission Cap

Hell want to be kept on the team and not shipped overseas


I kid...hope he stays, and luckily for us with his bad year we could resign for cheap. Around 3M

Nash would obviously be great, and make us a scary offensive team, but we are lacking 3 things... Toughness, Leadership and character. Nash brings none of those, i would definatly trade for him, but his cap hit is HUGE and i really dont want to lose Schenn Gardiner or our 1st, but we would have to lose one or two of them to get Nash. I would do like Franson, Kadri, Colborne and next years 1st, but they would never take that... Besides Schenn and Gardiner i really dont know what they would want, i think they would like Colborne, and i think they would like Kadri and Franson but they wouldnt like them enough to sell Nash... If we threw in next years 1st the deal SHOULD get done though, but you never know what the other offers are. I would like on the team and i think we would still be able to keep Lupul and Kessel because by the time they are off the books everyone else will be off the books to. But we will never be able to get that number 1 center, and Grabos cap hit is also scary, thats 4 big cap hits for 4 top six players, you only want 1 or 2 of those big cap hits up front so you can afford a good defense.

We will not get Parise, we dont have cap space, Suter would be nice but were not getting him either, were not in a place to pick up a big player, this is BS from EK Burke may go for Nash but i dont think he will trade Garidner for him or the pick, and why would he trade Schenn when he is looking to add more toughness to the lineup...Schenns our only tough d man.

Nash would obviously be great, and make us a scary offensive team, but we are lacking 3 things... Toughness, Leadership and character. Nash brings none of those, i would definatly trade for him, but his cap hit is HUGE and i really dont want to lose Schenn Gardiner or our 1st, but we would have to lose one or two of them to get Nash. I would do like Franson, Kadri, Colborne and next years 1st, but they would never take that... Besides Schenn and Gardiner i really dont know what they would want, i think they would like Colborne, and i think they would like Kadri and Franson but they wouldnt like them enough to sell Nash... If we threw in next years 1st the deal SHOULD get done though, but you never know what the other offers are. I would like on the team and i think we would still be able to keep Lupul and Kessel because by the time they are off the books everyone else will be off the books to. But we will never be able to get that number 1 center, and Grabos cap hit is also scary, thats 4 big cap hits for 4 top six players, you only want 1 or 2 of those big cap hits up front so you can afford a good defense.

We will not get Parise, we dont have cap space, Suter would be nice but were not getting him either, were not in a place to pick up a big player, this is BS from EK Burke may go for Nash but i dont think he will trade Garidner for him or the pick, and why would he trade Schenn when he is looking to add more toughness to the lineup...Schenns our only tough d man.
- Bar-South

Thats all you needed to say

Burke already got burned trading 1st round picks, he won't trade them again and has stated so already. And he would be a fool to trade those picks regardless, especially with the chance to pick top 5 this and next year to get the center he wants...
- JDJ

We'll see how the draft goes, but there's a good chance Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are taken before the 5 slot, at which point the next centre is a long ways from being the BPA.

No one will take Komi, Connelly, Armstrong, or Lombardi...
- JDJ

They never took Finger either.

The rest could not get you anything close to Nash or Loungo..
- JDJ

Yes they could, especially Luongo, who may require a cap hit going the other way.

No goalie in the NHL today could make the D look any good..
- JDJ

God knows Price tried.

No, but you speak dead ideas..
- JDJ

There's no such thing as a dead ideas, just improper execution of them.

We'll see how the draft goes, but there's a good chance Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are taken before the 5 slot, at which point the next centre is a long ways from being the BPA.



They never took Finger either.



Yes they could, especially Luongo, who may require a cap hit going the other way.



God knows Price tried.



There's no such thing as a dead ideas, just improper execution of them.
- The Shrike

Luongo for Komisarek

We'll see how the draft goes, but there's a good chance Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are taken before the 5 slot, at which point the next centre is a long ways from being the BPA.



They never took Finger either.



Yes they could, especially Luongo, who may require a cap hit going the other way.



God knows Price tried.



There's no such thing as a dead ideas, just improper execution of them.
- The Shrike

Leafs acquire

Nash, Parise, Luongo, Parros, Tootoo

in exchange for

Connolly, Komisarek, Lombardi(uninsurable), Mac, Reimer, Kulemin from their current roster.




Execution = improper.

Parise ($6.000m) / Grabovski ($5.500m) / Nash ($7.800m)
Lupul ($4.250m) / Bozak ($1.500m) / Kessel ($5.400m)
Kadri ($1.720m) / Colborne ($1.100m) / Frattin ($0.827m)
Brown ($0.737m) / Steckel ($1.100m) / Parros ($1.000m)
Crabb ($0.750m) / Tootoo ($1.250m)

Gunnarsson ($1.325m) / Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Liles ($3.875m) / Schenn ($3.600m)
Gardiner ($1.117m) / Franson ($0.840m)
Holzer ($0.605m)

Luongo ($5.333m)
Scrivens ($0.660m)

Tucker Buyout: ($1.000m)

$511,458 left over
- The Shrike

Way OFF. For starters, Parise is not going to sign of 6. Unless it is one of those lifetime contracts that front loads the salary and has him playing until he is 43. Tootoo is going to cost more then 1.25. That is what he made this year and he blew away his career highs. 1.75 - 2.0 for sure. Those 2 players along have eaten up that 500K you thought you had. Why would Franson only take 40k pay raise? Toronto may not want him, but as a RFA, he will want way more.

We'll see how the draft goes, but there's a good chance Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are taken before the 5 slot, at which point the next centre is a long ways from being the BPA.



They never took Finger either.



Yes they could, especially Luongo, who may require a cap hit going the other way.



God knows Price tried.



There's no such thing as a dead ideas, just improper execution of them.
- The Shrike

Grigorenko will slip out of the top 5 most likely, didn't look good in the playoffs, a no show in the 2nd round. Galchenyuk will get picked in the top 3 with Yakupov and Murray.

We'll see how the draft goes, but there's a good chance Grigorenko and Galchenyuk are taken before the 5 slot, at which point the next centre is a long ways from being the BPA.
- The Shrike

I agree.....I don't think Grigorenko or Galchenyuk (who I really want) will be there at #5. I don't think Forsberg will be as enticing so if Burke can't move up, by the time those two are gone, he'll trade the pick. Just my hunch....

If we can bring in all those players without moving anyone significant I would be amazed


- Jay Uller

Oh, and I forgot..What makes you think you can bring in Nash and Parise without giving up anything?

Parise ($6.000m) / Grabovski ($5.500m) / Nash ($7.800m)
Lupul ($4.250m) / Bozak ($1.500m) / Kessel ($5.400m)
Kadri ($1.720m) / Colborne ($1.100m) / Frattin ($0.827m)
Brown ($0.737m) / Steckel ($1.100m) / Parros ($1.000m)
Crabb ($0.750m) / Tootoo ($1.250m)

Gunnarsson ($1.325m) / Phaneuf ($6.500m)
Liles ($3.875m) / Schenn ($3.600m)
Gardiner ($1.117m) / Franson ($0.840m)
Holzer ($0.605m)

Luongo ($5.333m)
Scrivens ($0.660m)

Tucker Buyout: ($1.000m)

$511,458 left over
- The Shrike

I think Franson will get more than a $40,000 raise

Greatest post! "Loser talk" should be relegated till after all the playoffs have concluded, and a cup winner is crowned. Again, same old wishful thinking, lame "We're gettin good, fast" bullcrap...

Toronto...irrelevant.
- PanthersGoal

Thanks for your insight professor, you may have angered the peanut gallery.

Way OFF. For starters, Parise is not going to sign of 6. Unless it is one of those lifetime contracts that front loads the salary and has him playing until he is 43. Tootoo is going to cost more then 1.25. That is what he made this year and he blew away his career highs. 1.75 - 2.0 for sure. Those 2 players along have eaten up that 500K you thought you had. Why would Franson only take 40k pay raise? Toronto may not want him, but as a RFA, he will want way more.
- dgutzman

I'm jealous of your team.

I think Franson will get more than a $40,000 raise
- PatsLeafs

Out of all that...Franson only getting a 40k raise was the CLOSEST to reality

I'm jealous of your team.
- Phenom

Toronto could have a team like Nashville..Young, depth, and working towards the CUP.

However, Toronto, the media, their fans, all want Toronto to win the CUP every year. And you can't do that in today's NHL. Toronto has to rebuild for about 2 or 3 years..And that means not spending to the cap with wasteful overpaid contracts just to say you spent to the cap.

Take 2 years, trump your talent, load up on draft picks, and then slowly add pieces. Say playoffs in 3 years, WCF in 5, and SCF contender in 6

Please....please stop....
- noename09

There is but one nation....Leafs Nation. Long before Ballard and Peddie stripped you of your hope, you knew this to be true.

Out of all that...Franson only getting a 40k raise was the CLOSEST to reality
- noename09

Yea your probably right considering, what do you think he'll ask for, he put up almost the same numbers as he did last year in NSH in 23 less games. I also feel he has the best slapper from the point in terms of accuracy

Toronto could have a team like Nashville..Young, depth, and working towards the CUP.

However, Toronto, the media, their fans, all want Toronto to win the CUP every year. And you can't do that in today's NHL. Toronto has to rebuild for about 2 or 3 years..And that means not spending to the cap with wasteful overpaid contracts just to say you spent to the cap.

Take 2 years, trump your talent, load up on draft picks, and then slowly add pieces. Say playoffs in 3 years, WCF in 5, and SCF contender in 6
- dgutzman

you realize there is more than one way to obtain the cup...right? There isnt one sure way to get to the cup...this has been displayed over the past 10+ years.

Yea your probably right considering, what do you think he'll ask for, he put up almost the same numbers as he did last year in NSH in 23 less games. I also feel he has the best slapper from the point in terms of accuracy
- PatsLeafs

If hes not traded? Closer to 2M...but I think either him or Gunnar or moved in addition to a few others like Mac, Kadri, Colborne, Kulemin.

you realize there is more than one way to obtain the cup...right? There isnt one sure way to get to the cup...this has been displayed over the past 10+ years.
- noename09

Yes, but there are similar characteristics to all of the recent cup winners. One of which is having young players that you drafted and developed as the core of the team. Veterans and a few free agents fill out the team, but there has to be a core. Toronto doesn't have a core of young players that they have drafted. They are all over paid free agents or traded players that haven't grown up together, promoted through the AHL, and learned how to play with each other.

Go ahead and fire me..And then sit back and enjoy another 50 years without the CUP. In the new NHL, there is competitive balance..You can't just buy a team every year. Leafs fans have to remember that there are more then 6 teams in the league. YOu have to build from within. And sometimes, that means, you have to sell out and start from scratch. I would even go as far as saying that if you don't have at least 14 guys on your team that you drafted, you are doomed to fail in the long run.
- dgutzman

I agree with this. However, to a large degree the Leafs have built from within. If they do trade for Nash, they are doomed to long term mediocrity or worse. If that is Burke's intention, Nonis should take over now siting GM insanity because this will be his worse move to date. I'm not saying Nash does not have value, just that it is the most ridiculous time to do it.

Toronto could have a team like Nashville..Young, depth, and working towards the CUP.

However, Toronto, the media, their fans, all want Toronto to win the CUP every year. And you can't do that in today's NHL. Toronto has to rebuild for about 2 or 3 years..And that means not spending to the cap with wasteful overpaid contracts just to say you spent to the cap.

Take 2 years, trump your talent, load up on draft picks, and then slowly add pieces. Say playoffs in 3 years, WCF in 5, and SCF contender in 6
- dgutzman

Practical in theory....but not in practice. Can't work here....too high profile and not enough patience. Having said that, I like NSH to go to the Finals this year. It's their time.

you realize there is more than one way to obtain the cup...right? There isnt one sure way to get to the cup...this has been displayed over the past 10+ years.
- noename09

More like the past century..

if the leafs get:

suter
luongo
nash
parise
weber
and grigorenko or galchenyuk in the draft.

they could just trade away the rest of their team and play just those guys and prob win more than they did this season.