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bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 22 @ 12:47 AM ET
Just read Grossmann practiced today, what is the chance he plays tomorrow? If he does there is no way that he nada concussion.
- LJF

Really? You know that Couturier saw stars (had a concussion) and didn't miss a shift. The whole taking concussions seriously thing goes right out the window in the playoffs. They will NEVER learn.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:47 AM ET
How does this idiot still have a job?
- nhindian

Your guess is as good as mine.

On a related note (or, in this case...maybe not related....) I think Jonesy does a great job both for the Flyers and for NBC. I could be partial since he was a Flyer, but I think he's solid on national TV.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 22 @ 12:48 AM ET
I personally don't know how in good conscience the Flyers could put a guy out there who suffered a concussion earlier this week, especially considering the franchise's past history with this issue. I'm sure he wants to play, but someone has to be thinking about the long view here and the guys long term health, right?
- Emperor Filonius

It bugs the hell out of me.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 22 @ 12:50 AM ET
See this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QqaCgvplxg

- sbrubakerjr


he said Dink
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 22 @ 12:50 AM ET
It bugs the hell out of me.
- bodiva88

Did the Flyers ever come out and say he had a concussion? Or was it all speculation??

I, for one, never heard an official word. Or at least- didn't hear or remember one coming from the FLYERS. Not Eskin or anyone else, but the Flyers.

In my eyes, we've been speculating for the last 48 hours....so he could be a go for all we know.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 12:59 AM ET
I personally don't know how in good conscience the Flyers could put a guy out there who suffered a concussion earlier this week, especially considering the franchise's past history with this issue. I'm sure he wants to play, but someone has to be thinking about the long view here and the guys long term health, right?
- Emperor Filonius


Right.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:01 AM ET
Really? You know that Couturier saw stars (had a concussion) and didn't miss a shift. The whole taking concussions seriously thing goes right out the window in the playoffs. They will NEVER learn.
- bodiva88


I don't believe "seeing stars" (whatever that means medically) is the same as having a concussion. I've had a concussion (at least 1 documented), and don't remember seeing stars. I just got caught in the right spot in the head and an hour or two later, I was "off".
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 22 @ 1:07 AM ET
I don't believe "seeing stars" (whatever that means medically) is the same as having a concussion. I've had a concussion (at least 1 documented), and don't remember seeing stars. I just got caught in the right spot in the head and an hour or two later, I was "off".
- wolfhounds

My second concussion was the absolute worst experience of my life.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:08 AM ET
See this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QqaCgvplxg

- sbrubakerjr


LMAO

Milbury took his ball and went home at the end of that video.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:09 AM ET
My second concussion was the absolute worst experience of my life.
- Giroux_Is_God


I believe you. Mine was 'mild', and it still sucked. I feel for people who get rocked and aren't right for weeks.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 22 @ 1:14 AM ET
I believe you. Mine was 'mild', and it still sucked. I feel for people who get rocked and aren't right for weeks.
- wolfhounds

Took a very Malkin-esque forearm/elbow to the head on a cross ice hit after I literally passed the puck, turned around to change, and boom.

I remember seeing the ceiling, and then everything was honest to god bright (frank)ing orange for a split second, and then I woke up in the ambulance.

Threw up more than I would have if I caught the worst stomach virus ever concocted.

Any kind of light hurt me....couldn't even walk straight for 2 days....(frank)ing brutal.

Back in time for the playoffs though....those playoffs were the best stats I ever put up
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 1:27 AM ET
Took a very Malkin-esque forearm/elbow to the head on a cross ice hit after I literally passed the puck, turned around to change, and boom.

I remember seeing the ceiling, and then everything was honest to god bright (frank)ing orange for a split second, and then I woke up in the ambulance.

Threw up more than I would have if I caught the worst stomach virus ever concocted.

Any kind of light hurt me....couldn't even walk straight for 2 days....(frank)ing brutal.

Back in time for the playoffs though....those playoffs were the best stats I ever put up

- Giroux_Is_God


(frank) dude, that sounds scary and horrible. The vomiting is no fun at all. The playoff stats are proof of resilience and reward for dealing with that poop.

Now share some with the Flyers and we're gold tomorrow!
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 1:41 AM ET
Sorry, but there's nothing subjective about viewing the way Rinaldo plays. For the amount of time on the ice he gets, the number of cheap, dumb things he does is staggering.
- Emperor Filonius


oh so that's malkin's excuse? so much ice time?

show me one rinaldo play where he targets an opponent's noggin.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 1:42 AM ET
Just read Grossmann practiced today, what is the chance he plays tomorrow? If he does there is no way that he nada concussion.
- LJF



wha???
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 1:42 AM ET
I personally don't know how in good conscience the Flyers could put a guy out there who suffered a concussion earlier this week, especially considering the franchise's past history with this issue. I'm sure he wants to play, but someone has to be thinking about the long view here and the guys long term health, right?
- Emperor Filonius



malkin said he was fine.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Apr 22 @ 1:47 AM ET
wha???
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Yeah, Nick skated with the Black Aces and then with the Flyers. In a regular jersey. I assume if he "has no symptoms" tomorrow morning he will play. It has classic come back far too soon for a big playoff game written all over it and you know the Pens will be targeting him upstairs.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 22 @ 1:48 AM ET
Yeah, Nick skated with the Black Aces and then with the Flyers. In a regular jersey. I assume if he "has no symptoms" tomorrow morning he will play. It has classic come back far too soon for a big playoff game written all over it and you know the Pens will be targeting him upstairs.
- Flyers1218



let's go grossmann

clap clap clapclapclap
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 22 @ 1:57 AM ET
oh so that's malkin's excuse? so much ice time?

show me one rinaldo play where he targets an opponent's noggin.

- Don'tForgetTocchet


I"m not going to go back and argue with you about a simple point I made yesterday. The statute of limitations on that argument has come and gone. Besides, I'm sure there will be something new to argue in about 10 hours.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 22 @ 2:00 AM ET
I"m not going to go back and argue with you about a simple point I made yesterday. The statute of limitations on that argument has come and gone. Besides, I'm sure there will be something new to argue in about 10 hours.
- Emperor Filonius


*Cracks his knuckles and gets ready to argue with EF!*
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Apr 22 @ 2:03 AM ET
*Cracks his knuckles and gets ready to argue with EF!*
- wolfhounds

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Apr 22 @ 2:11 AM ET
Flyers 6 pens 2
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 22 @ 7:39 AM ET
I'm not sure what you're basing your opinion on, but this authoritative thing you try to use is a bit comical, especially since you're debating the current worth of 2 of 6 d-men who combined played 14 minutes and 1 second in Game 5.

Gus played 2 minutes and 10 seconds less than Kubina and Lilja combined; Carle and Coburn individually had double their combined toi.

- wolfhounds


I'm basing my opinion on simple reasoning. Well aware of the ice time of all the players. Lilja is a 7th defensman on the team that has played well all year. Kubina is a proven NHL defenseman that is obviously not 100%. Neither player deserves to be called a waste of a uniform under any circumstances.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 22 @ 10:08 AM ET
I don't believe "seeing stars" (whatever that means medically) is the same as having a concussion. I've had a concussion (at least 1 documented), and don't remember seeing stars. I just got caught in the right spot in the head and an hour or two later, I was "off".
- wolfhounds

Seeing stars is one of the symptoms mentioned as indicative of a concussion and allowing a medical professional to diagnose one. Also having the field of vision go yellow (this happened to Eric Lindros in the Hal Gill concussion that was the worst one in 2000). There are many others, some more obvious than others. If you have a child playing a sport and he/she reports seeing stars, you should be sure the team and the medical people know that and respond according to concussion protocols.
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