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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM ET
agreed. they've played dirty all series and have attempted, successfully, to injure and remove players from the game and series.
- hammarby31


Yup. The Penguins are living in a glass house though. Worse comes to worse, go flying and jump up into Letang and Crosby and lay them out. And get what, 1 game? Or if you're Malkin, 0 games and the opportunity to do it again the next game.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM ET
he was wide open, but your $51m goalie should make a big save
- Girouxtiful


Its a rocket from the dot with nobody challenging. Thats a tough stop on any goalie.
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM ET
Have to get better 5 on 5 play and fast because we havent score unless its been on the PP in which feels like a lifetime.
- stveshdy


All 3 goals in game 4 for you were on the PP right?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:23 PM ET
he was wide open, but your $51m goalie should make a big save
- Girouxtiful


You would like him to make a game changing save, but he didn't. But he is not to blame here. Man some fans jump ship and turn on their team real quick, We are in the middle of a playoff series here. And there is still a period to go. And if the Flyers happen to lose this game, they still have a 3-2 lead in the Series.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Apr 20 @ 9:24 PM ET
It was square on the shoulder, even with Coots leaning over...
- nhindian



They just showed it twice in Philly. Head and shoulder was primary point of impact.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:24 PM ET
really piss poor 2nd period for the Flyers. lots of standing around ... and on half the dump ins they had NO speed in the neutral zone. Easy as pie for the Pens to get the puck and come out.

they gotta play this 3rd like THEY'RE the ones down 3 game to 1.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:24 PM ET
It was square on the shoulder, even with Coots leaning over...
- nhindian



It's close, looked mostly on the shoulder, but could have been a little chin there.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
Lavi still has his timeout right? He should be in the room reinforcing that they need to play disciplined, play smart, agressive hockey, and win the next god damned period. This is the time to shine for guys like G, Briere, and Jagr. Pedal to the metal fellas!
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
All 3 goals in game 4 for you were on the PP right?
- nhindian


Yes.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
+1
- rockychocbill


The puck was not rolling to the corner....it was going to the sidewall....skaters were drifting to the corner, thats why malkins supposed change of direction appeared aggregious.
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
My name isn't sport, Dale.
- feelingkettle

sorry Charlie
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
2nd goal.
The angle they showed had Bryz with the top of his glove pointed at the shooter. Shoulder to elbow to hand angle looked fine, but the glove was pointed forward, glove was short side. Shot short side.
He then tries to make the save by lifting is entire arm from the shoulder.
Is that what gets taught?
I would think it would be more effective to keep the glove pointing vertically. If anything it makes the short hole above the shoulder look smaller and less desirable.

- nails


glove positioning is a matter of preference. some guys like to hold it up and forward facing like you're telling someone to stop (but not that pronounced). others prefer to have it turned more outward to the side. some guys like to keep it low, and tucked at the hip, like thomas (and he got burned by semin last night because of it). some high. generally, the motion to catch it in a situation like that should generate from the elbow, not from the shoulder.

from what i could see his angle looked off to me and he gave staal room to pick the corner. would need another replay to be sure.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 20 @ 9:25 PM ET
Have to spend some time in the offensive zone 5 on 5 this period. Not nearly enough of that.
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
It was square on the shoulder, even with Coots leaning over...
- nhindian


I am as objective as anybody and i'm telling you Malkin is dirty. I have no idea if he knew Couturier was there and went for it or not but that's his game. He is sneaky and a super star so he gets the benefit of the doubt. It's no different than Ovie.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 20 @ 9:26 PM ET
Have to spend some time in the offensive zone 5 on 5 this period. Not nearly enough of that.
- eayost


Agreed. Have to start putting pressure on the Pens defense. Were not forcing the puck down low were we have dominated in this series.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:27 PM ET
I am as objective as anybody and i'm telling you Malkin is dirty. I have no idea if he knew Couturier was there and went for it or not but that's his game. He is sneaky and a super star so he gets the benefit of the doubt. It's no different than Ovie.
- bird_dog


That hit wasn't an accident. Malkin knew exactly what he was doing there.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
Have to spend some time in the offensive zone 5 on 5 this period. Not nearly enough of that.
- eayost

nope, not a good period at all.

no urgency to get the puck on dump ins.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
There's no way they would've decided on a hearing already.
- nhindian

it's ek. let it go.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:28 PM ET
There's no way they would've decided on a hearing already.
- nhindian

Obviously. I'm sure league officials talk about these things during the game, however.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
20 hard mins and lets end this...
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
Heavy alcoholic beverage in check. Now I can handle this game
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
It was square on the shoulder, even with Coots leaning over...
- nhindian

nails
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: thread killer, PA
Joined: 02.05.2007

Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
glove positioning is a matter of preference. some guys like to hold it up and forward facing like you're telling someone to stop (but not that pronounced). others prefer to have it turned more outward to the side. some guys like to keep it low, and tucked at the hip, like thomas (and he got burned by semin last night because of it). some high. generally, the motion to catch it in a situation like that should generate from the elbow, not from the shoulder.

from what i could see his angle looked off to me and he gave staal room to pick the corner. would need another replay to be sure.

- hammarby31

If you ever get the chance to see the NBC feed, check it out.
There are things I coach about where I teach them to let gravity help you out. My brain says it should be easier to drop the glove than raise it
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:29 PM ET
Obviously. I'm sure league officials talk about these things during the game, however.
- feelingkettle

usually 4 on the ice
watsonnostaw
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Dude has all the personality of a lump of concrete. Just a complete lizard.
Joined: 06.26.2006

Apr 20 @ 9:30 PM ET
20 hard mins and lets end this...
- stveshdy

4/20
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