He's posting a 1.77 GAA and a .942 SV% before this game (even lower now). How could anybody not be impressed with that?
- 77rams

It's not quite a 4.96 GAA, and .844 SV%, but it's not terrible.

oh and if it was filmed today grossman seems to be out and about and doing pretty well
- thenighttrain17

I'd bet it was before the series. They said 'on their day off' and they practiced today

No the team is buying into Hunter's system and it's kind of scary. Holtby has done what is asked off him but he's had some juicy rebounds in the crease but the caps clean it up.
- JoeRussomanno

Joe if this is the case I would spend every dollar on defense and put an idiot in goal. To not give Holtby his due and say hes doing what is expected of him is crazy. The guy is playing outstanding every single game.

Joe if this is the case I would spend every dollar on defense and put an idiot in goal. To not give Holtby his due and say hes doing what is expected of him is crazy. The guy is playing outstanding every single game.
- stveshdy

I'm giving holtby his due but put him on the Flyers and this thing is Pittsburgh advancing after four games. Hes getting the help he needs. I don't understand why you guys don't see that or are you really not watching the game. Stuff has trickled past him, big rebounds are left out in front, but his team is taking care of it.

Not like the Flyers standing around and waiting like they have through the past two games.

Clock not starting tonight, 2 pucks on the ice in the Rags/Sens during Game 1, 45 goals in 4 games in our series, 7+ suspensions...

What a first round.
- nhindian

Haven't they broken the record for a PO series already?

Joe if this is the case I would spend every dollar on defense and put an idiot in goal. To not give Holtby his due and say hes doing what is expected of him is crazy. The guy is playing outstanding every single game.
- stveshdy

That's pretty much been Detroit's philosophy for years.

It's still going to be a battle for Pitt to close this out. The Flyers should be able to win one freaking game with what they have healthy. If Bryz can't play then Bob has to do it, Leighton isn't going to cut it.
- JoeRussomanno

Close it out tomorrow rest up get ready for next round. Can't let the pens get on a roll. If the boys blow this series imagine the stuff that the pens fans will be saying.

Clock not starting tonight, 2 pucks on the ice in the Rags/Sens during Game 1, 45 goals in 4 games in our series, 7+ suspensions...

What a first round.
- nhindian

2012 is the only explanation

I'd bet it was before the series. They said 'on their day off' and they practiced today
- nhindian

thats what i was thinking as well

I'm giving holtby his due but put him on the Flyers and this thing is Pittsburgh advancing after four games. Hes getting the help he needs. I don't understand why you guys don't see that or are you really not watching the game. Stuff has trickled past him, big rebounds are left out in front, but his team is taking care of it.

Not like the Flyers standing around and waiting like they have through the past two games.
- JoeRussomanno

Theres no goalie in the league that wont give up rebounds. Defense is a big part but to just act like thats the only reason hes any good is not fair. The guy has been outstanding between the pipes.

Im not even comparing him to Bryz or what he would do as a Flyer in this series so thats irrelevant.

I'm giving holtby his due but put him on the Flyers and this thing is Pittsburgh advancing after four games. Hes getting the help he needs. I don't understand why you guys don't see that or are you really not watching the game. Stuff has trickled past him, big rebounds are left out in front, but his team is taking care of it.

Not like the Flyers standing around and waiting like they have through the past two games.
- JoeRussomanno

I sort of agree. You could take a lot of these goalies who appear to be having great post-seasons ... but if their D was playing the way the Flyers D is right now, I'd sure as hell bet they have some freakin' bad save percentages as well.

Likewise, if the Flyers D was playing the way it did a few weeks back when Bryz had great stats, he also would be putting up some good numbers here in this series.

no grossmann for tomorrow according to Eskin
EDIT: Not that we didn't already know that, but now it is essentially official

That's pretty much been Detroit's philosophy for years.
- 77rams

Detroit has had some very good veteran goalies that have helped them win a cup.

Hasek
Vernon
Osgood

Theres no goalie in the league that wont give up rebounds. Defense is a big part but to just act like thats the only reason hes any good is not fair. The guy has been outstanding between the pipes.

Im not even comparing him to Bryz or what he would do as a Flyer in this series so thats irrelevant.
- stveshdy

I know there's no goalie that won't give up rebounds, it's part of the game. It's not the only reason he's doing so well but it's a big reason.

no grossmann for tomorrow according to Eskin
- thenighttrain17

Who takes his place?

I sort of agree. You could take a lot of these goalies who appear to be having great post-seasons ... but if their D was playing the way the Flyers D is right now, I'd sure as hell bet they have some freakin' bad save percentages as well.

Likewise, if the Flyers D was playing the way it did a few weeks back when Bryz had great stats, he also would be putting up some good numbers here in this series.


- FlyerGuy

That's exactly what I'm saying so I think we pretty much agree

seriously? I missed that!

- FlyerGuy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRX2OcNSke0

Hilarious. I love how the puck in play lands perfectly where the other was sitting.

If I were Winchester I would've shot the other one in the net and lets the refs figure it out.

Haven't they broken the record for a PO series already?
- 77rams

I think so

Who takes his place?
- LJF

Gustafsson most likely.

Detroit has had some very good veteran goalies that have helped them win a cup.

Hasek
Vernon
Osgood
- stveshdy

If I remember correctly Vernon lost in the finals for them against NJ and Osgood won the following year.

I know there's no goalie that won't give up rebounds, it's part of the game. It's not the only reason he's doing so well but it's a big reason.
- JoeRussomanno

I do agree with you to a certain degree but I think Holtby is playing outstanding. Nuevirth and Vokoun played behind the same defense for much of the season and they barely made the playoffs.

Holtby hasnt played throughout the entire season behind this group but hes doing a great job imo.

Who takes his place?
- LJF

Gusto. Bartulis is on recall waivers though, just to be a black ace

I do agree with you to a certain degree but I think Holtby is playing outstanding. Nuevirth and Vokoun played behind the same defense for much of the season and they barely made the playoffs.

Holtby hasnt played throughout the entire season behind this group but hes doing a great job imo.
- stveshdy

The caps aren't playing the way they did two months ago, if they were this series would be over. They might be the 2010 Flyers this year. They pulled it together down the stretch.

2012 is the only explanation
- thenighttrain17

If I remember correctly Vernon lost in the finals for them against NJ and Osgood won the following year.
- JoeRussomanno

I think you might be correct but then I'm missing someone I believe. The point is those goalies arent garbage.