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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Apparently the word never means 11 months. Hmmmm.... who knew.

I never have to pay taxes again using Snider's definition of the word.

- PLindbergh31

I don't think he meant it would never happen even if one goalie got hurt. I can tolerate this if both Bryz and Bob get hurt but hoping to beat this team by starting leighton is utterly stupid.
flyersfan51
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 10.04.2006

Apr 19 @ 12:56 PM ET
Perfect recipe for a Pen comeback, grrrrrrrrrrrr
- GoFlyersGoSlovakia


yup. and if they had only won last night, there'd be time to heal up. oh well, it is what it is.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 19 @ 12:57 PM ET


How pi$$ed do you reckon Snider is?

- GoFlyersGoSlovakia


No time to be pissed, he's busy counting everyone's money.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
Tell me you didn't see it coming?
- flyguy12

seeing and posting are different animals sir
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
Exactly. Even the back up practices, which he will be if Bryz is indeed injured.
- funmaster18



unpossible, plz commence panicking
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Apr 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
Would love to see the Pens claim Bartulis... that would be some bulletin board material.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
Sounds like JVr has a good shot at playing. Practices with read and Voracek today.
- funmaster18



JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
No time to be pissed, he's busy counting everyone's money.
- PLindbergh31

No he's pissed. One thing about Snider and it reflects in this franchise's success for that I am utterly grateful for, is that he cares about this team winning. I don't just believe that I know that and will never question his desire to bring us a cup.
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Apr 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
seeing and posting are different animals sir
- Crimsoninja


I'm a realist. Just had a horrible feeling last night. Then all the BS w/the media made it a stone cold lock.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
No he's pissed. One thing about Snider and it reflects in this franchise's success for that I am utterly grateful for, is that he cares about this team winning. I don't just believe that I know that and will never question his desire to bring us a cup.
- JoeRussomanno


Yeah, he does care no doubt.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 19 @ 12:59 PM ET

- Don'tForgetTocchet


He said it isn't his decision, but if it was, he'd play.
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
I'm talking out my ass with the Leighton thing. They're going to live or die with Bryz.

As for Luongo, it's incredibly doubtful he would ask/accept a trade to TO. I see FLA or TAM as clearly the front runners. I still believe Luongo would have to ask Gillis to be moved. Gillis has stated he won't go and ask players who have a NTC if they would be willing to waive it. If the Canucks do pull off the miracle with Schneider in goal it just may happen.

- rockychocbill


It'd be hilarious if Lou goes back to Florida
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Briere was a minus-9
- Crimsoninja

Just like I thought.

I would definately switch up that line, because IMO you cant limit Briere's ice time in the Playoffs, just get him on a line with defensively responcible players. I think at least Voracek, and maybe Wellwood or Read if your unwilling to put Hartnell down there. But I think with the way Hartnell has progressed in his game, and the way Briere plays in the POs, I would put them with Voracek, and put someone faster on Giroux line to make up for Jagr's lack of speed...

Read-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
JVR-Schenn-Simmonds
Wellwood-Couturier-Talbot...

I know its not happening, but I would try it out...
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 19 @ 1:00 PM ET
Briere was a minus-9
- Crimsoninja



you made me look
nhindian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.12.2008

Apr 19 @ 1:03 PM ET
It could piss them off enough to put it away next game, then getting deflated by an almost win...
- RooNosHockey


I think it was a better loss for the forwards than the goalies. Blow out losses are awful for a goalie's psyche, especially when the fans mock cheer stopping a dump in.

That being said, it's not impossible for a goalie to rebound. Fleury got pulled in Game 5 of the Finals in 2009 and came back to put up two good games and Fleury looked absolutely broken after Game 3 and didn't do awful yesterday (after 2 soft goals)
sbrubakerjr
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 12.01.2009

Apr 19 @ 1:04 PM ET
So, what are the Flyers faithful thoughts on..

Suspension for Rinaldo?

Suspension for Malkin?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 19 @ 1:04 PM ET
No he's pissed. One thing about Snider and it reflects in this franchise's success for that I am utterly grateful for, is that he cares about this team winning. I don't just believe that I know that and will never question his desire to bring us a cup.
- JoeRussomanno

Thank you. Because some people can be in business and be passionate about more than the financial bottom line.

And some people will be miserable on principle.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
Just like I thought.

I would definately switch up that line, because IMO you cant limit Briere's ice time in the Playoffs, just get him on a line with defensively responcible players. I think at least Voracek, and maybe Wellwood or Read if your unwilling to put Hartnell down there. But I think with the way Hartnell has progressed in his game, and the way Briere plays in the POs, I would put them with Voracek, and put someone faster on Giroux line to make up for Jagr's lack of speed...

Read-Giroux-Jagr
Hartnell-Briere-Voracek
JVR-Schenn-Simmonds
Wellwood-Couturier-Talbot...

I know its not happening, but I would try it out...

- RooNosHockey


-4, you do realize that was Crims posting, right? Not that -4 is good, but let's not inflate, shall we?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 19 @ 1:06 PM ET
you made me look
- Don'tForgetTocchet

I knew he was lying but I wanted to see how MUCH he was lying.
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Apr 19 @ 1:06 PM ET
So, what are the Flyers faithful thoughts on..

Suspension for Rinaldo?

Suspension for Malkin?

- sbrubakerjr


Kennedy?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think it was a better loss for the forwards than the goalies. Blow out losses are awful for a goalie's psyche, especially when the fans mock cheer stopping a dump in.

That being said, it's not impossible for a goalie to rebound. Fleury got pulled in Game 5 of the Finals in 2009 and came back to put up two good games and Fleury looked absolutely broken after Game 3 and didn't do awful yesterday (after 2 soft goals)

- nhindian

Which happened more for Bob that Bryz. The giant cheer for the backup coming in always makes me want the backup to suck eggs just to make the so-called fans feel like the chumps they are.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
Jeff Skversky ‏ @JeffSkversky
Ilya Bryzgalov leaving practice early I'm told is nothing out of normal. There have been days he hasn't practiced at all


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Shephardbd
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.16.2008

Apr 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
So, what are the Flyers faithful thoughts on..

Suspension for Rinaldo?

Throw him out of the league forever for all I care. (See that? Contrary to popular belief, most fans don't like the Rinaldo types on the team)

Suspension for Malkin?

- sbrubakerjr


Suspension for Rinaldo?

Throw him out of the league forever for all I care. (See that? Contrary to popular belief, most fans don't like the Rinaldo types on the team)

Suspension for Malkin?

Let him keep playing because he is a star, right? (read: he deserves a one game suspension, but it won't happen)
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
Thank you. Because some people can be in business and be passionate about more than the financial bottom line.

And some people will be miserable on principle.

- bodiva88

I'm a tell you right from now, Snider's efforts with this franchise have given me a great time over the years. I have not lived to see a cup yet, but firmly believe it's coming in the near future. Can still do it this year but somethings have to happen.

When the day comes and Mr. Snider leaves us it will be a very sad day for me. I might actually shed tears. Not just because of what he's given us in hockey but also I understand the work he does through charity etc.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 1:10 PM ET
Which happened more for Bob that Bryz. The giant cheer for the backup coming in always makes me want the backup to suck eggs just to make the so-called fans feel like the chumps they are.
- bodiva88

I found it amusing how people were calling for bob then he comes in and is imo worse. But from the play I saw in front of both goalies I didn't expect much.

Maybe that's a negative to Bryzgalov that he can't raise his game when the team is playing poorly in front. Either way i think it's become clear that if they play better in front of him he'll play better accordingly.
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