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Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Apr 18 @ 4:02 PM ET
2-5 seem to be all over the board at the moment
http://tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=61251

Forsberg has 2 goals in a 2-0 win the other day... so not people are high on him at the moment

- senstroll

Well... thats Craig Button and if Galychenyuk falls to 14, then the Leafs need to do this deal I proposed. Looking at his list, at 11, the Leafs select Galchenyuk and at 16, add a 2nd and trade up 1 spot to take Faksa.

It'll go down as the greatest Leaf draft of all time!
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
Well... thats Craig Button and if Galychenyuk falls to 14, then the Leafs need to do this deal I proposed. Looking at his list, at 11, the Leafs select Galchenyuk and at 16, add a 2nd and trade up 1 spot to take Faksa.

It'll go down as the greatest Leaf draft of all time!

- Lohaus


That's ISS. Button has Gally at 5, Faksa at 18 (lol wut?)

He also doesn't have Maatta in his Top 60....


Man sticks to his beliefs. Gotta respect that.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 18 @ 4:06 PM ET
Well... thats Craig Button and if Galychenyuk falls to 14, then the Leafs need to do this deal I proposed. Looking at his list, at 11, the Leafs select Galchenyuk and at 16, add a 2nd and trade up 1 spot to take Faksa.

It'll go down as the greatest Leaf draft of all time!

- Lohaus


I doubt Gal. makes it past 5... at the moment Forsberg is the wild card..will he go 2,3,4 or 5 or later?

In reality I have no idea who would be better for the leafs... they just cant afford another miss or partial miss.. has to be a homerun...which sucks
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Apr 18 @ 4:11 PM ET
That's ISS. Button has Gally at 5, Faksa at 18 (lol wut?)

He also doesn't have Maatta in his Top 60....


Man sticks to his beliefs. Gotta respect that.

- Brian Huddle

Maatta isn't in the top 60? London is right down the street, has he not seen him play?
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 18 @ 4:19 PM ET
Maatta isn't in the top 60? London is right down the street, has he not seen him play?
- Lohaus


Oh he has. I've chatted with a few times at the JLC.

I specifically remember him there at a Knights-Sarnia game, right after the rumor that he was taking over in Columbus popped out the night before, and so I jokingly made a remark to him about it.

Didn't seem to eager to comment. LOL.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 18 @ 5:15 PM ET
What I find funny is Forsberg is like a less fast but better defensively Paajarvi who doesn't have the pedigree or showed the same level of comfort against men (in the SEL as opposed to the Allsvenskan), yet he dropped to 10. Paajarvi destroyed both the WJC's and was a key player the year before his draft.

*Puts on the anti-Forsberg hype cap*
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 18 @ 5:37 PM ET
Who's this Alexandre Mallett that Walsh is pimping out?
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 18 @ 6:03 PM ET
Oh he has. I've chatted with a few times at the JLC.

I specifically remember him there at a Knights-Sarnia game, right after the rumor that he was taking over in Columbus popped out the night before, and so I jokingly made a remark to him about it.

Didn't seem to eager to comment. LOL.

- Brian Huddle


What kind of ceilings do the 3 goalies have? Does dansk have the highest ceiling or does he have less tweaks and adjustments needed in his game since you have him rated highest.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Apr 18 @ 6:13 PM ET
B-Hud, give me 5 players that will be available between 15-20 that could be absolute game-changers for a team that takes them.
- dangerdale



Is there a team you feel will be picking in that range?

Kick.
Boston Bruins
Joined: 03.22.2011

Apr 18 @ 6:33 PM ET
Hey Brian any chance you will be doing a blog on how the ohl playoff are going? Would love to hear ur thoughts
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Apr 18 @ 7:17 PM ET
What I find funny is Forsberg is like a less fast but better defensively Paajarvi who doesn't have the pedigree or showed the same level of comfort against men (in the SEL as opposed to the Allsvenskan), yet he dropped to 10. Paajarvi destroyed both the WJC's and was a key player the year before his draft.

*Puts on the anti-Forsberg hype cap*

- AdamFrench

Pretty much, thats why I dont get all the hype. Hell if teams want that guy so badly come get the better on in edmonton.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 7:50 PM ET
I also just read hockeyprospects.com article on galchenyuk and they have him as the top prospect. They said nail benefited more from galchenyuk rather than what most people assumed or said was the othe way around. Interesting.
- ystoil



Except for the 66 pts he got in the 40 games he played without him of course....
longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

Apr 18 @ 7:58 PM ET
Likely, yea. Not trying to predict, but give my opinions

Was pretty down on Forsberg most of the year.

- Brian Huddle

I have to wonder why Forsberg is ranked so high and what the IT factor is with the guy. Didn't he play the tier below the SEL this year. Is he going to be like Turris in the BCJHL?
longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

Apr 18 @ 8:08 PM ET
hey Huddle you have Heneric Sameusson ranked at 29 and ISS or CSS has him at 45 and the other in the 70's. would he be around at 32 and IMO he would be a great pickup what's your opinion of hm.
BarDownBobo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: St. Paul, AB
Joined: 04.11.2012

Apr 18 @ 11:57 PM ET
hey Huddle you have Heneric Sameusson ranked at 29 and ISS or CSS has him at 45 and the other in the 70's. would he be around at 32 and IMO he would be a great pickup what's your opinion of hm.
- longbottom

Problem I see with Samuelsson is that he likely plays as a third line center, and we've got Pitlick and Lander in fighting for that already. Although I love his play style and would not be opposed to picking him at all if available there.
longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

Apr 19 @ 12:28 AM ET
Problem I see with Samuelsson is that he likely plays as a third line center, and we've got Pitlick and Lander in fighting for that already. Although I love his play style and would not be opposed to picking him at all if available there.
- BarDownBobo

why do you project a ppg player as a third line center?
Edit almost a ppg player 23p in 28 games since he came over and was suspended twice, in the play-offs he has 6 points 2G 4A in 6 games.
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

Apr 19 @ 12:32 AM ET
why do you project a ppg player as a third line center?
Edit almost a ppg player 23p in 28 games since he came over and was suspended twice, in the play-offs he has 6 points 2G 4A in 6 games.

- longbottom

Because of the what 40-50 PPG players in the CHL only a handful of the ever amount to anything more than a third liner.
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

Apr 19 @ 12:37 AM ET
Hey Huds any chance of getting a blog on the players drafted in the 2nd round or higher in the 2011 draft? The risers and fallers if teams could get a do over what players might have made it into the 1st round?
DrRecchi
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Currently being entertained by the asian lady mowing 8 inch grass with an electric mower
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 19 @ 12:47 AM ET
What I find funny is Forsberg is like a less fast but better defensively Paajarvi who doesn't have the pedigree or showed the same level of comfort against men (in the SEL as opposed to the Allsvenskan), yet he dropped to 10. Paajarvi destroyed both the WJC's and was a key player the year before his draft.

*Puts on the anti-Forsberg hype cap*

- AdamFrench


longbottom
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.29.2010

Apr 19 @ 2:09 AM ET
Because of the what 40-50 PPG players in the CHL only a handful of the ever amount to anything more than a third liner.
- Oil Tycoon

lmao he never got that where in the holy hell did you get 40-50 points from? 23 p in 28 games equates out to be more than 40-50p in a full season. By the way did you realise he got these points in his rookie season?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 2:50 AM ET
lmao he never got that where in the holy hell did you get 40-50 points from? 23 p in 28 games equates out to be more than 40-50p in a full season. By the way did you realise he got these points in his rookie season?
- longbottom



I think u need to read oil tycoons post again....
Oil Tycoon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Parts unknown, AB
Joined: 09.08.2009

Apr 19 @ 8:50 AM ET
lmao he never got that where in the holy hell did you get 40-50 points from? 23 p in 28 games equates out to be more than 40-50p in a full season. By the way did you realise he got these points in his rookie season?
- longbottom

Have anouther look!
Lohaus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 10.04.2006

Apr 19 @ 8:55 AM ET
What I find funny is Forsberg is like a less fast but better defensively Paajarvi who doesn't have the pedigree or showed the same level of comfort against men (in the SEL as opposed to the Allsvenskan), yet he dropped to 10. Paajarvi destroyed both the WJC's and was a key player the year before his draft.

*Puts on the anti-Forsberg hype cap*

- AdamFrench

Why don't you just conform? You sicken me!
Brian Huddle
Location: Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.10.2011

Apr 19 @ 1:21 PM ET
Who's this Alexandre Mallett that Walsh is pimping out?
- Lahey


He's a '92 kid. Should have gone in 2010 Draft, but well.... sucked. Had a HUGE season this year and burst from a 19 pt player to an 81 pt player.

Not putting too much stock into it yet.

What kind of ceilings do the 3 goalies have? Does dansk have the highest ceiling or does he have less tweaks and adjustments needed in his game since you have him rated highest.
- ystoil


I think Vasilevski, Dansk and Subban are all starter upsides, for sure, and very likely could see some elite potential there. This is a very good crop of goaltenders in comparison to previous years.

My personal opinion is that Dansk is the highest upside, but I'm one of the few. A lot of Subban and Vasilevski supporters out there... French being a AV guy.

Dansk just plays a lot like Hank. Very sound and calm in his net, a bit deeper (Swedish thing), but has so much raw athletic ability to make saves when he needs to. Always need tweaks, but he's good very strong technique.

Hey Brian any chance you will be doing a blog on how the ohl playoff are going? Would love to hear ur thoughts
- Kick.


Sure thing, boss.

I have to wonder why Forsberg is ranked so high and what the IT factor is with the guy. Didn't he play the tier below the SEL this year. Is he going to be like Turris in the BCJHL?
- longbottom


Project-able attributes. Just a very strong player, with size, skating, three-zone play and an NHL release. He very well could bust, but I'm not too sure. Turris was a PPG guy in the NCAA in his first year, so there's talent there.. just a poor choice of development routes, IMO. Should have stayed at UW longer and got stronger. I don't think there's an inch of muscle on that guy.

hey Huddle you have Heneric Sameusson ranked at 29 and ISS or CSS has him at 45 and the other in the 70's. would he be around at 32 and IMO he would be a great pickup what's your opinion of hm.
- longbottom


I tend to put a premium on character and guys who play with some sandpaper, so I definitely have a higher rating on HS than most. He'll likely be a high to mid 2nd rounder in this draft, so he should be around at 32, yea.

AS for some thoughts? He's just a kid who will do it all to win. Plays with some aggression, but backs it up with talent. He's a bull when he's got the puck, and is so good around the net, with some soft hands and very good IQ of the game. If there's anything holding him back it's slow feet. He can skate at a decent speed, but his starts and stops need technique work.

But that's fixable, IMO.

Hey Huds any chance of getting a blog on the players drafted in the 2nd round or higher in the 2011 draft? The risers and fallers if teams could get a do over what players might have made it into the 1st round?
- Oil Tycoon


Yea, I can see what I can do
BarDownBobo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: St. Paul, AB
Joined: 04.11.2012

Apr 19 @ 2:28 PM ET
why do you project a ppg player as a third line center?
Edit almost a ppg player 23p in 28 games since he came over and was suspended twice, in the play-offs he has 6 points 2G 4A in 6 games.

- longbottom

Based on watching him play. I think he'll be a high end third line center. I'd love to see the Oil pick him in the second round, make their future third line of Hamilton-Samuelsson-Pitlick. Would be a pretty top notch third line.

You keep bringing up stats which more leads me to believe that you're basing it all off of that. You need to consider that he's playing with Curtis Lazar, who's projected to be a top 5 pick next year and is sick offensively.
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